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Ron
April 29th, 2004, 10:08 PM
How much longer must we wait before Micorsoft allows us to
set the default font in Publisher?

Ed Bennett
April 29th, 2004, 10:19 PM
A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from Ron
>!"...
> How much longer must we wait before Micorsoft allows us to
> set the default font in Publisher?

You mean like is possible using the add-in available at www.kvalheim.org?

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/
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http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm

°°°MS°Publisher°°°
April 30th, 2004, 03:01 AM
Up to Publisher 97 then Microsoft decided you most definitely had no need
whatsoever for that feature. Considering every other program has that
feature, it just proves what a *MASSIVE* bunch of dummies are in the
Publisher division and Microsoft generally. There is nobody there that
cares a damn about customers, only massive rip-off profits and monopolistic
abuse.

--

"If you don't know where you are going,
any road will take you there!"

JL Paules
April 30th, 2004, 03:14 AM
David,

I don't mean to cause any problems but if you dislike Microsoft and
Publisher so much, why do you continue to (1) use Publisher and (2)
participate in this newsgroup? Surely there are other things you DO enjoy
that could occupy your time. I used to read a Usenet group for years and
then it started getting snippy. It got downright ugly. I stopped reading it
for quite some time. Just recently I popped back in and thought things had
calmed down. Wrong. It'll be some time before I waste my time in there
again.

You seem to know the product quite well but if it displeases you so much,
why not just stop?

--
JoAnn Paules - MVP Microsoft Publisher



"°°°MS°Publisher°°°" > wrote in message
...
> Up to Publisher 97 then Microsoft decided you most definitely had no need
> whatsoever for that feature. Considering every other program has that
> feature, it just proves what a *MASSIVE* bunch of dummies are in the
> Publisher division and Microsoft generally. There is nobody there that
> cares a damn about customers, only massive rip-off profits and
monopolistic
> abuse.
>
> --
>
> "If you don't know where you are going,
> any road will take you there!"
>
>

°°°MS°Publisher°°°
April 30th, 2004, 10:32 AM
JL if you managed to have any basic knowledge about things past you could
comment. However, you are a dumb person that has never bothered doing any
research, and would be incapable of doing the basic homework required. JL
now learn to shut your jaws until you have necessary knowledge. JL
uneducated fools like you should not be allowed to have an internet
connection or phone line. That would help save the world from imbeciles.
People should only be allowed to connect to the Internet with an IQ of 120
or newspaper editors. JL you with hovering around 50 would not stand a
chance.
Go to Iraq and help molest the Iraq prisoners along with the trash filth
scum slime US soldiers. Of course it is unlikely all those disgusting
depraved atrocities committed by US soldiers in Iraq are being shown there.

--

"If you don't know where you are going,
any road will take you there!"

Ron
April 30th, 2004, 01:53 PM
No! Imean like in Word. The add-in you mentioned is a joke
at best. Every time you open pulisher you have to resave
the "default" text box format. How hard good it be to have
the option like in Word?

>-----Original Message-----
>A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A
post from Ron
>!"...
>> How much longer must we wait before Micorsoft allows us
to
>> set the default font in Publisher?
>
>You mean like is possible using the add-in available at
www.kvalheim.org?
>
>--
>Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
>http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/
>Before reading this message, view the disclaimer:
>http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm
>
>
>.
>

Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]
April 30th, 2004, 02:12 PM
On 30 Apr 2004 07:53, "Ron" > wrote:
>No! Imean like in Word. The add-in you mentioned is a joke at best.
>Every time you open pulisher you have to resave the "default" text box
>format. How hard good it be to have the option like in Word?

I'm sorry, but you must not know how to use the add-in properly. Follow
the tutorial. You don't have to resave the default text box everytime.
You can set your settings in the registry (which is done by the add-in
for you) so that when you open a blank Publication, you click the default
button and your settings are there.
You should research before you make such comments.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.mvps.org/publisher

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

Ron
April 30th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Why is every one in this discussion group so mad? I made a
comment that may have been wrong but it did not deserve
your comments. I still do not understand Micrsofts
inability to make this an option. that said I will try
AGAIN the add-in which I have tried on at least two
occasions. After I close Publisher the settings are no
longer there until I create a text bos and resave.
Ron
>-----Original Message-----
>On 30 Apr 2004 07:53, "Ron" > wrote:
>>No! Imean like in Word. The add-in you mentioned is a
joke at best.
>>Every time you open pulisher you have to resave
the "default" text box
>>format. How hard good it be to have the option like in
Word?
>
>I'm sorry, but you must not know how to use the add-in
properly. Follow
>the tutorial. You don't have to resave the default text
box everytime.
>You can set your settings in the registry (which is done
by the add-in
>for you) so that when you open a blank Publication, you
click the default
>button and your settings are there.
>You should research before you make such comments.
>--
>Brian Kvalheim
>Microsoft Publisher MVP
>http://www.mvps.org/publisher
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>
>
>.
>

Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]
April 30th, 2004, 02:40 PM
On 30 Apr 2004 08:22, "Ron" > wrote:
>Why is every one in this discussion group so mad? I made a comment that
>may have been wrong but it did not deserve your comments. I still do
>not understand Micrsofts inability to make this an option. that said I
>will try AGAIN the add-in which I have tried on at least two occasions.
>After I close Publisher the settings are no longer there until I create
>a text bos and resave.

How is everyone mad? We would just assume that you are the mad one because
you called something a joke, yet you had not gone through and effectively
learned how to use the add-in.
Note that there are 4 buttons on the new toolbar (which you can customize
to make it smaller by removing the text from each button, then dock to
your other toolbars). One button will SET your defaults. THEN one button
will SAVE your defaults to the registry. Then one button is used to load
those defaults when you open a new publication. And the last button is
the Text Box button you use to create text boxes (no longer would you use
the text box button on the object toolbar). Once you have made your preferences,
set them, and saved them, you should no longer need to worry about those
buttons. Now you will just have the LOAD button and the Text Box button
to use.
Also, one thing you may not have known is that the Publisher team assumed
that normal.pub was not really used back when they moved to Publisher 98.
However, I have attended some meetings with the Publisher team recently,
and they have heard loud and clear that the customer would like to see
this feature. The reason they know now is based on feedback from this newsgroup,
as well as when people look up DEFAULT font/etc in the help box in Publisher
2003. This information is sent to the Publisher team, and they are seeing
this request over and over. It's on the wish list for Publisher 12. Let's
hope it makes it.
Until then, I have worked with the Publisher team, as well as Ed Bennett
to create this Add-In that helps set a default font for future blank publications.
The only extra step you need to take is to click the one "Load" button
when you are opened to a blank publication.
Any questions, give us a yell.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.mvps.org/publisher

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

JL Paules
April 30th, 2004, 03:08 PM
Especially since the person who created that add-in reads this newsgroup.

--
JoAnn Paules - MVP Microsoft Publisher



"Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]" > wrote in message
. ..
> On 30 Apr 2004 07:53, "Ron" > wrote:
> >No! Imean like in Word. The add-in you mentioned is a joke at best.
> >Every time you open pulisher you have to resave the "default" text box
> >format. How hard good it be to have the option like in Word?
>
> I'm sorry, but you must not know how to use the add-in properly. Follow
> the tutorial. You don't have to resave the default text box everytime.
> You can set your settings in the registry (which is done by the add-in
> for you) so that when you open a blank Publication, you click the default
> button and your settings are there.
> You should research before you make such comments.
> --
> Brian Kvalheim
> Microsoft Publisher MVP
> http://www.mvps.org/publisher
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
>
>

JL Paules
April 30th, 2004, 03:11 PM
We aren't mad. Why do you insist on having the same features of one program
built into another? Word is Word, Publisher is Publisher. Yes, they share
several of the same features but there are differences that make them
unique.

Starting out with a post that says, "How much longer must we wait before
Micorsoft (sic) allows us to set the default font in Publisher?" isn't the
friendliest way to start a positive conversation.

--
JoAnn Paules - MVP Microsoft Publisher



"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> Why is every one in this discussion group so mad? I made a
> comment that may have been wrong but it did not deserve
> your comments. I still do not understand Micrsofts
> inability to make this an option. that said I will try
> AGAIN the add-in which I have tried on at least two
> occasions. After I close Publisher the settings are no
> longer there until I create a text bos and resave.
> Ron
> >-----Original Message-----
> >On 30 Apr 2004 07:53, "Ron" > wrote:
> >>No! Imean like in Word. The add-in you mentioned is a
> joke at best.
> >>Every time you open pulisher you have to resave
> the "default" text box
> >>format. How hard good it be to have the option like in
> Word?
> >
> >I'm sorry, but you must not know how to use the add-in
> properly. Follow
> >the tutorial. You don't have to resave the default text
> box everytime.
> >You can set your settings in the registry (which is done
> by the add-in
> >for you) so that when you open a blank Publication, you
> click the default
> >button and your settings are there.
> >You should research before you make such comments.
> >--
> >Brian Kvalheim
> >Microsoft Publisher MVP
> >http://www.mvps.org/publisher
> >
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> >
> >
> >.
> >

JL Paules
April 30th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Bite me

--
JoAnn Paules - MVP Microsoft Publisher



"°°°MS°Publisher°°°" > wrote in message
...
> JL if you managed to have any basic knowledge about things past you could
> comment. However, you are a dumb person that has never bothered doing any
> research, and would be incapable of doing the basic homework required. JL
> now learn to shut your jaws until you have necessary knowledge. JL
> uneducated fools like you should not be allowed to have an internet
> connection or phone line. That would help save the world from imbeciles.
> People should only be allowed to connect to the Internet with an IQ of 120
> or newspaper editors. JL you with hovering around 50 would not stand a
> chance.
> Go to Iraq and help molest the Iraq prisoners along with the trash filth
> scum slime US soldiers. Of course it is unlikely all those disgusting
> depraved atrocities committed by US soldiers in Iraq are being shown
there.
>
> --
>
> "If you don't know where you are going,
> any road will take you there!"
>
>

Mike Koewler
April 30th, 2004, 03:47 PM
Brian,

>> Also, one thing you may not have known is that the Publisher team
assumed that normal.pub was not really used back when they moved to
Publisher 98. However, I have attended some meetings with the Publisher
team recently, and they have heard loud and clear that the customer
would like to see this feature. The reason they know now is based on
feedback from this newsgroup, as well as when people look up DEFAULT
font/etc in the help box in Publisher 2003.

I know another company that took out this feature but it only took them
one version to put it back in. :-)

Mike

Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP] wrote:
> On 30 Apr 2004 08:22, "Ron" > wrote:
>
>>Why is every one in this discussion group so mad? I made a comment that
>>may have been wrong but it did not deserve your comments. I still do
>>not understand Micrsofts inability to make this an option. that said I
>>will try AGAIN the add-in which I have tried on at least two occasions.
>>After I close Publisher the settings are no longer there until I create
>>a text bos and resave.
>
>
> How is everyone mad? We would just assume that you are the mad one because
> you called something a joke, yet you had not gone through and effectively
> learned how to use the add-in.
> Note that there are 4 buttons on the new toolbar (which you can customize
> to make it smaller by removing the text from each button, then dock to
> your other toolbars). One button will SET your defaults. THEN one button
> will SAVE your defaults to the registry. Then one button is used to load
> those defaults when you open a new publication. And the last button is
> the Text Box button you use to create text boxes (no longer would you use
> the text box button on the object toolbar). Once you have made your preferences,
> set them, and saved them, you should no longer need to worry about those
> buttons. Now you will just have the LOAD button and the Text Box button
> to use.
> Also, one thing you may not have known is that the Publisher team assumed
> that normal.pub was not really used back when they moved to Publisher 98.
> However, I have attended some meetings with the Publisher team recently,
> and they have heard loud and clear that the customer would like to see
> this feature. The reason they know now is based on feedback from this newsgroup,
> as well as when people look up DEFAULT font/etc in the help box in Publisher
> 2003. This information is sent to the Publisher team, and they are seeing
> this request over and over. It's on the wish list for Publisher 12. Let's
> hope it makes it.
> Until then, I have worked with the Publisher team, as well as Ed Bennett
> to create this Add-In that helps set a default font for future blank publications.
> The only extra step you need to take is to click the one "Load" button
> when you are opened to a blank publication.
> Any questions, give us a yell.
> --
> Brian Kvalheim
> Microsoft Publisher MVP
> http://www.mvps.org/publisher
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>

Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]
April 30th, 2004, 03:54 PM
On 30 Apr 2004 09:47, Mike Koewler > wrote:
>Brian,
>
> >> Also, one thing you may not have known is that the Publisher team
>assumed that normal.pub was not really used back when they moved to
>Publisher 98. However, I have attended some meetings with the Publisher
>team recently, and they have heard loud and clear that the customer
>would like to see this feature. The reason they know now is based on
>feedback from this newsgroup, as well as when people look up DEFAULT
>font/etc in the help box in Publisher 2003.
>
>I know another company that took out this feature but it only took them
>one version to put it back in. :-)


Forutunately for Serif, they understood what a community was long ago.
It took this long for MS to understand who/what a community was :-(. It
took competition for them to finally listen after years of watching competitors
such as Linux move in. --
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.mvps.org/publisher

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

°°°MS°Publisher°°°
April 30th, 2004, 05:52 PM
JL learn what features have been in Publisher in previous versions and have
been removed instead of dribbling diarrhoea all over the place here.

--

"If you don't know where you are going,
any road will take you there!"

Ed Bennett
May 1st, 2004, 09:31 PM
A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A post from Ron
>!"...
> No! Imean like in Word. The add-in you mentioned is a joke
> at best.

Thank you. Please feel free to insult my work without even bothering to
read the instructions.
You do not need to resave the default settings. You merely have to load them
from the registry. That is so that you do not automatically get the
settings - if you want, you can return to Publisher's defaults.

And to answer your question, it would be more difficult to have an option
like in Word, as Publisher 2002 and 2003 do not support a normal document
template like Word does.

Please feel free to accuse me of being mad. I acknowledged a long time ago
that I was mad, and learned to live with it. However, before I dive in and
accuse products of a joke directly to the person that made them, I generally
try and research how to use the products and whether there are workarounds.

--
Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/
Before reading this message, view the disclaimer:
http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm

Ron Brown
May 4th, 2004, 01:59 PM
You are right and I was wrong. I offer an apology! I am
now using your add-in.
Ron Brown

>-----Original Message-----
>A small child turns to Ed, and exclaims: "Look! Look! A
post from Ron
>!"...
>> No! Imean like in Word. The add-in you mentioned is a
joke
>> at best.
>
>Thank you. Please feel free to insult my work without
even bothering to
>read the instructions.
>You do not need to resave the default settings. You
merely have to load them
>from the registry. That is so that you do not
automatically get the
>settings - if you want, you can return to Publisher's
defaults.
>
>And to answer your question, it would be more difficult
to have an option
>like in Word, as Publisher 2002 and 2003 do not support a
normal document
>template like Word does.
>
>Please feel free to accuse me of being mad. I
acknowledged a long time ago
>that I was mad, and learned to live with it. However,
before I dive in and
>accuse products of a joke directly to the person that
made them, I generally
>try and research how to use the products and whether
there are workarounds.
>
>--
>Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
>http://www.mvps.org/the_nerd/
>Before reading this message, view the disclaimer:
>http://mvps.org/the_nerd/disclaim.htm
>
>
>.
>

Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]
May 4th, 2004, 02:40 PM
On 04 May 2004 07:59, "Ron Brown" wrote:
>You are right and I was wrong. I offer an apology! I am now using your
>add-in.

Ron, if you have any comments or wishes to see in this add-in, please
email me or post back and let us know how it is working for you. --
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.mvps.org/publisher

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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