landscape and portrait headers definition... in a blank template!

[Gaston.Becerra@gmail.com]

Hi,

I've been reading tons of tutorials and MVP's tips on how to work with
different header for portrait and landscape page setup (including
Shauna Kelly's biblical article about portrait page numbers in
landscape pages). However, it always seems to apply to normal
documents, but not to templates.
What if I want to create a blank template with headers for both
orientations?
Is it possible to change a portrait document to landscape, then to
portrait and then to landscape again and still getting the first
landscape header? Shouldn't this be part of a template definition?

Thanks in advanced for any idea you could spare!!

I also would like to sincerely thank those folks who generously use
their time to publish articles like Kelly's. I have learned to use
styles mainly thanks to these type of resources, and it has saved me a
lot of time.

Best,

Gaston

[Stefan Blom]

Well, you can certainly insert section breaks in a template the same way you
do it in a document, and then format one section as landscape.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


> wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I've been reading tons of tutorials and MVP's tips on how to work with
> different header for portrait and landscape page setup (including
> Shauna Kelly's biblical article about portrait page numbers in
> landscape pages). However, it always seems to apply to normal
> documents, but not to templates.
> What if I want to create a blank template with headers for both
> orientations?
> Is it possible to change a portrait document to landscape, then to
> portrait and then to landscape again and still getting the first
> landscape header? Shouldn't this be part of a template definition?
>
> Thanks in advanced for any idea you could spare!!
>
> I also would like to sincerely thank those folks who generously use
> their time to publish articles like Kelly's. I have learned to use
> styles mainly thanks to these type of resources, and it has saved me a
> lot of time.
>
> Best,
>
> Gaston

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Without wanting in any way to detract from Shauna's priceless trove of
articles on styles, numbering, and other issues, if you are referring to
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/LandscapeSection.htm, that article is
at the Word MVPs' FAQ site, not Shauna's.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

> wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I've been reading tons of tutorials and MVP's tips on how to work with
> different header for portrait and landscape page setup (including
> Shauna Kelly's biblical article about portrait page numbers in
> landscape pages). However, it always seems to apply to normal
> documents, but not to templates.
> What if I want to create a blank template with headers for both
> orientations?
> Is it possible to change a portrait document to landscape, then to
> portrait and then to landscape again and still getting the first
> landscape header? Shouldn't this be part of a template definition?
>
> Thanks in advanced for any idea you could spare!!
>
> I also would like to sincerely thank those folks who generously use
> their time to publish articles like Kelly's. I have learned to use
> styles mainly thanks to these type of resources, and it has saved me a
> lot of time.
>
> Best,
>
> Gaston

[Gaston.Becerra@gmail.com]

Suzanne, yes, i was referring to that article... i read 200 tutorials
(including yours), i've must mixed them up in my mind...

Regarding Stefan's comment, I have done that... I've created the
template with the sections and 2 blank pages (in both orientations) as
placeholders. But what if I want to create a template without those
place holders? Specifically I want to know if, in order to provide a
template with a defined header for the landscape page, is it necessary
to incorporate a landscape page, or if there is a way to include that
information without placing a landscape page on the template.
Does it make any sense?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Word can remember up to three headers/footers per section: First Page, Odd
(or primary), and Even. But it remembers only the ones that are in the page
orientation of a given section, so without section breaks, no I don't think
you could have those headers as an *original* part of the template, but you
could certainly save them as AutoText entries in the Header or Footer style,
and they would be available on the AutoText menu on the Header and Footer
toolbar.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

> wrote in message
...
> Suzanne, yes, i was referring to that article... i read 200 tutorials
> (including yours), i've must mixed them up in my mind...
>
> Regarding Stefan's comment, I have done that... I've created the
> template with the sections and 2 blank pages (in both orientations) as
> placeholders. But what if I want to create a template without those
> place holders? Specifically I want to know if, in order to provide a
> template with a defined header for the landscape page, is it necessary
> to incorporate a landscape page, or if there is a way to include that
> information without placing a landscape page on the template.
> Does it make any sense?
>
>

[Gaston.Becerra@gmail.com]

I will definitively look into that. Thanks a lot for your time!

[Stefan Blom]

That is a good idea. It woold still be necessary to insert the landscape
section manually, of course (unless you are willing to include a section
break in the AutoText entry, which might be somewhat of an adventure).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
> Word can remember up to three headers/footers per section: First Page, Odd
> (or primary), and Even. But it remembers only the ones that are in the
> page orientation of a given section, so without section breaks, no I don't
> think you could have those headers as an *original* part of the template,
> but you could certainly save them as AutoText entries in the Header or
> Footer style, and they would be available on the AutoText menu on the
> Header and Footer toolbar.
>
> --
> Suzanne S. Barnhill
> Microsoft MVP (Word)
> Words into Type
> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> Suzanne, yes, i was referring to that article... i read 200 tutorials
>> (including yours), i've must mixed them up in my mind...
>>
>> Regarding Stefan's comment, I have done that... I've created the
>> template with the sections and 2 blank pages (in both orientations) as
>> placeholders. But what if I want to create a template without those
>> place holders? Specifically I want to know if, in order to provide a
>> template with a defined header for the landscape page, is it necessary
>> to incorporate a landscape page, or if there is a way to include that
>> information without placing a landscape page on the template.
>> Does it make any sense?
>>
>>
>
>

[Stefan Blom]

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
> That is a good idea. It woold still be necessary to insert the landscape
> section manually, of course (unless you are willing to include a section
> break in the AutoText entry, which might be somewhat of an adventure).
>

Correction: (unless you are willing to include *two* section breaks in
the AutoText entry...)

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP





> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
> ...
>> Word can remember up to three headers/footers per section: First Page,
>> Odd (or primary), and Even. But it remembers only the ones that are in
>> the page orientation of a given section, so without section breaks, no I
>> don't think you could have those headers as an *original* part of the
>> template, but you could certainly save them as AutoText entries in the
>> Header or Footer style, and they would be available on the AutoText menu
>> on the Header and Footer toolbar.
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Suzanne, yes, i was referring to that article... i read 200 tutorials
>>> (including yours), i've must mixed them up in my mind...
>>>
>>> Regarding Stefan's comment, I have done that... I've created the
>>> template with the sections and 2 blank pages (in both orientations) as
>>> placeholders. But what if I want to create a template without those
>>> place holders? Specifically I want to know if, in order to provide a
>>> template with a defined header for the landscape page, is it necessary
>>> to incorporate a landscape page, or if there is a way to include that
>>> information without placing a landscape page on the template.
>>> Does it make any sense?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

That's more of an adventure than I'd be up for!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Stefan Blom" > wrote in message
...
> That is a good idea. It woold still be necessary to insert the landscape
> section manually, of course (unless you are willing to include a section
> break in the AutoText entry, which might be somewhat of an adventure).
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
>
>
> "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
> ...
>> Word can remember up to three headers/footers per section: First Page,
>> Odd (or primary), and Even. But it remembers only the ones that are in
>> the page orientation of a given section, so without section breaks, no, I
>> don't think you could have those headers as an *original* part of the
>> template, but you could certainly save them as AutoText entries in the
>> Header or Footer style, and they would be available on the AutoText menu
>> on the Header and Footer toolbar.
>>
>> --
>> Suzanne S. Barnhill
>> Microsoft MVP (Word)
>> Words into Type
>> Fairhope, Alabama USA
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Suzanne, yes, i was referring to that article... i read 200 tutorials
>>> (including yours), i've must mixed them up in my mind...
>>>
>>> Regarding Stefan's comment, I have done that... I've created the
>>> template with the sections and 2 blank pages (in both orientations) as
>>> placeholders. But what if I want to create a template without those
>>> place holders? Specifically I want to know if, in order to provide a
>>> template with a defined header for the landscape page, is it necessary
>>> to incorporate a landscape page, or if there is a way to include that
>>> information without placing a landscape page on the template.
>>> Does it make any sense?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

[Robert M. Franz (RMF)]

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
> That's more of an adventure than I'd be up for!

works all right though. I've included this in one of my early
meta-templates. It's hardly something I'd want to test all too
thoroughly for including it into an end-user template, though.

2cents
Robert
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