Here are my Relationships so far
( http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4...ellsample3.png )
I had to change few fields in tables from "text" to "number" in order to
link them. You probably know that.

In order to to the totals should TblWorkerCrew be linked to TblWorker Type?
So these 3 fields will be together in a form I would create for a user? or
its not necessary?

Thanks



"Damian" wrote:

Great advice. I renamed the tables and I think You are right. It will avoid
confusion.
So far I have this:
( http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1...ellsample2.png )
Image for easier view and review.

What my goal is:
To create a form for a user which has Defined fields for WorkerType,
Underneeth Worker Name, and across CrewName all there because there are only
handfull of guys for each WorkerType.

The User will input only a number of CrewName he/she had for that day.. So
if WorkenName had 1 Formen, 2 Workers and 4 Laborers under him/her. She would
only enter 1 , 2 , 4 under her row for each CrewName. Then have fields for
totaling each thing automatically. Is this all passible with a form or do I
have to do the totals as a querie and then create a summary report?

Am I making sense? The first excell image I think explains it very nice what
I mean.

Thanks Guys for helping me with this.

"Steve" wrote:

Hello Damian,

Your tables are still incorrect. To start, how about for clarity naming the
people Workers. The naming a group of workers Crew.

TblWorkerType
WorkerTypeID
WorkerType

TblWorker
WorkerID
WorkerFName
WorkerLName
WorkerTypeID

TblCrew
CrewID
CrewName for identifying different crews

TblCrewWorker
CrewWorkerID
CrewID
WorkerID

You can count the types of workers in a crew in a totals query that includes
all the above tables on the fly.


Steve




"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type Table so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to get
the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys to
fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted by
the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data table
when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this. I
took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me better.
(Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers, #ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating Foreman,Workman
&
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has different
Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of worker) in
a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All names
for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row. I
can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be able to
view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to make
it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I am
looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name each
workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I cant. I
can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change the
values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]