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Old February 1st, 2005, 09:19 PM
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Sue, I'm not getting the hang of displaying the message I'm responding
to, so I just copied and pasted all of the history of my
correspondence, and the responses received, below.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong to not display the message I'm
responding to. I had assumed it was like an email reply that the
message to which you were responding was automatically quoted, unless
you deleted some or all of it.

Hope the text below is not too confusing, but I think it is pretty
complete.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Bob

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Some people are using their department calendar to post if s=ADomeone is

sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on one=AD single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else's =ADcomputer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared calend=ADar, the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment l=ADasting
from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the day =ADbefore
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This in =ADspite of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring appo=ADintment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob


Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] Dec 22 2004, 9:28 am show options

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The two machines are set for different time zones or have di=ADfferent
Daylight
Savings Time settings.


--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx



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Some people are using their department calendar to post if=AD someone

is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on o=ADne single

day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'=ADs

computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cale=ADndar, the


appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment=AD lasting

from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the da=ADy before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This i=ADn spite

of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring

ap=ADpointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob




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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "


The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Time=AD settings



.."

I have checked and all the machines are set for the same tim=ADe zone.
I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time sett=ADings, but
I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.


But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settings =ADwould
make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one co=ADmputer,
to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when the
=ADappointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?


We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same dep=ADartment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions to =ADplace
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, the=AD
originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another empl=ADoyee
viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe com=ADputer)
and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at 1=ADpm. But
when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog bo=ADx shows
it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can sc=ADhedule
each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, tim=ADe off,
etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee ente=ADred a 4pm

break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn't=AD see that

4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The sec=ADond
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyone =ADelse
does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty biz=ADarre,
even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appre=ADciated.


Thanks!



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Bob wrote:
Some people are using their department calendar to post if=AD someone

is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on o=ADne single


day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'=ADs

computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cale=ADndar, the


appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment=AD lasting

from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the da=ADy before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This i=ADn spite

of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring

ap=ADpointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?


Bob




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Perfect Reign Jan 7, 2:26 pm show options

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Bob wrote:

Sue, I'm confused by your response: "The two machines are =ADset for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Ti=ADme

settings."



Huh? I don't see any response above yours.

--
kai
www.perfectreign.com
"i believe in what i'm doing, but what is it i'm doing here"


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Bob Jan 26, 12:15 pm show options

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I find this newsgroup terribly confusing as to the mechanics=AD; I guess

I'm used to email listservs more than newsgroups.
Below, I've copied into this reply, several items: my origi=ADnal
question, Sue Mosher's "different time zone" response which =ADI
couldn't
figure out, and the response I submitted with the additional
information that appears below, under my phrase, "Sue, I'm c=ADonfused
by
your response." Hope my copy and paste approach doesn't do t=ADoo much
duplication, but I really need to figure out the answer to t=ADhis
problem.


Thanks, in advance, for your help!


Bob




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Some people are using their department calendar to post if s=ADomeone is

sick
or
out
on
vacation
.. When
they
post
such
an
entry
on
one
single
day
(say
January
5
, 2005
) in
Outlook
, then
go
to
someone
else's
computer
and
look
at
that
same
appointment
on
that
same
shared
calendar
, the
appointment
has
changed
: it
now
is
a
recurring
appointment
lasting
from
today
(the
day
the
appointment
was
entered
) through
the
day
before
(1
/4
/05
) the
day
for
which
they
posted
it
(1
/5
/05
)=2E This
in
spite
of
the
fact
that
it
was
clearly
not
entered
as
a
recurring
appointment
..
Any
thoughts
on
why
this
is
happening
?
Bob


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Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] Dec 22 2004, 9:28 am show opt=ADions


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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:28:55 -0500
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The two machines are set for different time zones or have di=ADfferent
Daylight
Savings
Time
settings
..
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
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Some people are using their department calendar to post if=AD someone

is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on o=ADne single


day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'=ADs

computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cale=ADndar, the


appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment=AD lasting

from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the da=ADy before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This i=ADn spite

of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring

ap=ADpointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?
Bob



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Bob Jan 7, 2:12 pm show options


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- Hide quoted text -
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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "
The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Time=AD settings

.."
I have checked and all the machines are set for the same tim=ADe zone.
I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time sett=ADings, but
I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.
But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these settings =ADwould
make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one co=ADmputer,
to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when the
=ADappointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?
We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same dep=ADartment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions to =ADplace
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, the=AD
originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another empl=ADoyee
viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe com=ADputer)
and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at 1=ADpm. But
when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog bo=ADx shows
it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can sc=ADhedule
each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, tim=ADe off,
etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee ente=ADred a 4pm

break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn't=AD see that

4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The sec=ADond
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyone =ADelse
does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty biz=ADarre,
even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be appre=ADciated.
Thanks


!

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Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] Jan 26, 12:28 pm show options

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Outlook stores an all-day event as an appointment that runs =ADfrom 12
a=2Em. to
12 a.m. So, say I'm in Eastern time zone and you're in Centr=ADal. If
you open
that same appointment on your machine, it won't be an all da=ADy
appointment.
It will be set to start at 12 a.m. Eastern time, but since y=ADou're in
Central
time, that's 11 p.m., so you'll see that appointment as span=ADning 2
days --
frm 11 p.m. one day to 11 p.m. the next.


So, the next step to try to resolve the issue is to check th=ADe time
zone
settings and daylight savings time settings on the different=AD client
machines
involved. The easiest way to do that is to right-click the t=ADime
display in
the Windows system tray and choose Adjust Date/TIme. It soun=ADds like
you've
done that, but you might want to check again now that (hopef=ADully) you

understand the issue a little better.


This is the most common issue that fits at least some of the=AD symptoms
you
describe. Of course, you might be running into something com=ADpletely
different and even previously unknown. I certainly can't exp=ADlain the
odd
behavior on delegated calendars.


What version of Outlook is involved?


The Google groups interface has a reply command, but you mus=ADt be
logged in
to use it.
--



Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
"Bob" wrote in message
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I find this newsgroup terribly confusing as to the mechanic=ADs; I

guess
I'm used to email listservs more than newsgroups.
Below, I've copied into this reply, several items: my ori=ADginal
question, Sue Mosher's "different time zone" response whic=ADh I

couldn't
figure out, and the response I submitted with the addition=ADal
information that appears below, under my phrase, "Sue, I'm=AD confused

by
your response." Hope my copy and paste approach doesn't do=AD too much


duplication, but I really need to figure out the answer to=AD this
problem.


Thanks, in advance, for your help!



Bob



Some people are using their department calendar to post if=AD someone

is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on o=ADne single

day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else'=ADs

computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cale=ADndar, the


appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointment=AD lasting

from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the da=ADy before
(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This i=ADn spite

of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring

ap=ADpointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?



Bob



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The two machines are set for different time zones or have =ADdifferent


Daylight
Savings Time settings.



"Bob" wrote in message
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Some people are using their department calendar to post i=ADf someone

is
sick or out on vacation. When they post such an entry on =ADone

single
day
(say January 5, 2005) in Outlook, then go to someone else=AD's

computer
and look at that same appointment on that same shared cal=ADendar,

the
appointment has changed: it now is a recurring appointmen=ADt lasting


from
today (the day the appointment was entered) through the d=ADay before


(1/4/05) the day for which they posted it (1/5/05). This =ADin spite

of
the fact that it was clearly not entered as a recurring

a=ADppointment.
Any thoughts on why this is happening?



Bob Jan 7, 2:12 pm show options



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Sue, I'm confused by your response: "



The two machines are set for
different time zones or have different Daylight Savings Ti=ADme

setting


."



I have checked and all the machines are set for the same t=ADime zone.

I'm
not quite sure whether they all have different DST time se=ADttings,

but I
will check; I forgot to last time I was down there.



But I'm wondering why a divergence in one of these setting=ADs would

make
an appointment go from being a one-day appointment on one =ADcomputer,

to
being a multi-day appointment on another computer, when th=ADe

appointment
is being viewed from the same calendar on both computers?



We have also discovered a related(?) problem in the same

d=ADepartment,
today. A number of department employees have permissions t=ADo place
appointments on each other's computers. In one instance, t=ADhe

originator
employee entered an appointment for 8am to 1pm. Another em=ADployee

viewed
that same appointment on that same calendar (from anothe c=ADomputer)

and
the bar on the calendar shows as a one-hour appointment at=AD 1pm. But


when you double-click on that appointment bar, the dialog =ADbox shows

it
clearly as being from 8am to 1pm. All these employees can =ADschedule

each
other's time, so they carefully block out lunch, breaks, t=ADime off,

etc.
so that the system works. This same originator employee en=ADtered a

4pm
break time on her computer. The same second employee doesn=AD't see

that
4pm break time on the originator's calendar, at all. The s=ADecond
employee does not have Windows XP, but pretty much everyon=ADe else

does.
Could this be part of the problem. It still seems pretty b=ADizarre,

even
if that is the cause of the problem. Any help would be app=ADreciated.


Thanks!




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Bob Jan 31, 9:20 am show options

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Sue,


All of the affected computers are using Outlook 2002.


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And what is the issue with them? The newsgroup interface you=AD are
using
apparently does not quote earlier messages in the thread, ma=ADking your
latest
message so short on detail that you risk not getting the ans=ADwer
you're
looking for. Please take the time to quote the original mess=ADage.


--



Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
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Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
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Sue,


All of the affected computers are using Outlook 2002.

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