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Old July 20th, 2004, 09:29 AM
Ed Bennett
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Default 2 GB too large?

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Brian it is true. If you put in a JPG into a Publisher doco it
converts it to a PNG internally which is a larger file than a JPG.

NOT TRUE.
I have just tested this.
I inserted a 255,102 byte JPG into a 32,256 byte blank Publisher file, and
on saving the filesize went up to 290,304. That is not unreasonable - there
is about 3k difference, which is probably Publisher's header on the image.
I then converted the JPG to PNG in IrfanView, and the PNG was 3,203,584
bytes in size. I deleted the JPG from the Publisher file and saved it, and
checking the filesize it had gone back down to 32,256. I inserted the PNG
into the Publisher file, and the Publisher filesize went up to 3,261,440.
From this I think it is safe to draw the conclusion that Publisher will NOT
always convert images to PNG.

Out of interest, I then converted my image to an uncompressed BMP, with a
size of 9,290,358 bytes. I deleted the image from my Publisher file,
checking that the size was once again 32,256 bytes, and inserted my BMP. On
saving, the Publisher filesize was 3,561,984 bytes.

This confirms the conclusion I reached a long time ago and the advice I have
given users:

Publisher stores the image in its original format with the original
compression, unless the filesize can be reduced by converting the image to
PNG format, in which case it converts the image to a losslessly compressed
PNG internally and stores it like that.

So I am totally correct in my original post.

Or not.

Brian PagePlus requires NO add-ins, it is all built into the program.

You mean there's no way at all you could get PagePlus to function better by
getting it to repeat some arduous task over and over.
I want to insert 1,000 circles at random intervals on a page to make it look
like bubbles, I can write about 10 lines of VBA and it is all done for me.
Without VBA support, I would have to draw 1,000 circles (that's a minimum of
1,000 drag-drop operations, and 1,000 holdings of the shift key, plus any
extras to add fills)

If you were honest you would admit the add-ins for Publisher are
amateurish in the extreme in operation.

Gee, thanks. I love you too.

The Object Model in
Publisher is about as useful as the tits on a bull.

To YOU. Because you don't choose to make usre of it.

Brian you continually harp on about the VBA functions, but as you
know few to nobody

Oh, so now I'm a nobody.

use them as Publisher users don't want to be
programmers.

You don't have to be a programmer to install a Publisher add-in.
And you hardly have to be a programmer to write a few lines of VBA.

Now that you always rave on about the VBA functions in
Publisher then show us all the VBA examples you have done and your
portfolio of improved artwork.

VBA doesn't improve artwork, it allows you to accomplish repetetive tasks
easily.

What is this horse manure about PagePlus not being able to open files
from older versions. Which planet are you living on.

If you actually read his post you would see that he said that OLDER versions
of PP cannot open files from NEWER versions.

Brian get real will you. None of the free alternatives are up to the
functionality or the need of CMYK and printer settings.

Built-in functionality is almost always dangerous, IMO. If one thing goes
wrong, it can cause a load of other things to go wrong. That's why I don't
buy all-in-one printers.

I don't want to take you away from Publisher, but for a weekly
newspaper Serif PagePlus is a substantially superior tool to
Publisher for all the right reasons. PagePlus is the right tool for
the job.

In your opinion. Some would say that Adobe PageMaker or InDesign was the
ONLY and/or RIGHT tool for the job.
If the program can do what you need it to do, and you're comfortable with
it, than I'd say that it is the right program for the job.
So for YOU, PagePlus is the right tool. For Brian, Publisher is the right t
ool. For some, Corel Ventura is the right tool.

I also recommend both products, but for a weekly newspaper or longer
documents like magazines with adverts etc. PagePlus is a
substantially better program for the job.

For you.

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