chuckle!

I have this desire to make one!

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
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is there a template for a BMF hammer?..

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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
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A safari in Ontario? Canada? You don't need a nudge - you need someone
with a BMF hammer to stand beside you and look menacing.

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
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Mary

I don't disagree that wizards and templates are useful, but there is an
expectation that a wizard and/or template for absolutely any occasion or
event should be supplied in as many different layouts such that all who
sit on the Church committee will agree on at least one of them.. at some
point, the 'editor' is going to have to make some changes, and this
requires time spent negotiating the learning curve..

I look at all of the templates supplied with Publisher 2003, and think
that one of them must be kinda close with a little tinkering thrown in..
if users of Publisher can't see that, then they are not the person for
the job, and should advise the committee accordingly..

More than a few coming here need more than a nudge, especially those who
essentially want somebody here to create the whole document and forward
it to them, or they will say a whole bunch of spiteful things to the
effect that MS are lying on the subject of Publisher being easy to use..

If somebody was to ask you "Is there a template I can use to produce a
booklet titled 'On Safari in Ohio', I would be interested to see just
how many nudges it would take to get a finished product..

Joking aside, I need to produce a booklet titled 'On Safari in
Ontario'.. I am a very busy person and have only one hour and fifteen
minutes left to produce something meaningful and with a professional
look.. please 'nudge' me (softly).. :-)


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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
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The templates and wizards are an enormous help for the unimaginative.
The church secretary that has to put together a bulletin, order of
service, prayer lists, newsletters and so on, Publisher is the right
application. A lot of organizations I have had anything to do with have
Publisher, but the folks who do the actual creation work are not hired
for their design skills, the job description only asks for experience
in using the product.
Folks come to this forum for help and a nudge in the right direction,
to denigrate the poster serves no purpose.

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Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
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"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
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Ron

Wizards for labels, envelopes etc are a good thing.. if I want a
calendar, I go out and buy one.. but printed envelopes. labels etc are
not available from my local stationery store..

I do agree that earlier Publishers were a mass of wizards, and it was
difficult to 'freehand' a job.. this is why I used PagePlus up to
version 6.. while wizards were available latterly, they could be
turned off.. having said that, a wizard was useful for starting a
document sometimes.. one could then tinker around with the results..

These days, people expect to start Publisher and find a wizard that
will instantly produce a Church social newsletter that includes
details a chess tournament against Boris Spassky to be held next
Saturday.. 'easy to use' flashes on the packaging get translated into
'requires no effort'..

Publisher will eventually be seen as the decent DTP that it truly is,
but only after the generations that remembered Pub 95/97 are long
gone..

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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"drc023" wrote in message
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You've just hit on my main hot button about Publisher. Even back in
the olden days when I was one of the MVP's (along with Mike B. and
Brian K.) I was fussing at MS over the emphasis they put on leading
new users to think the only way to create a document was to use a
template or wizard - a.k.a. Paint-by-Numbers DTP. IMNSHO, the only
wizard of any value is for making calendars and even the ones in the
newer versions are inferior to what was in Pub97.
Warning - Rant On:
Example of what is so ridiculous about some of the questions posed
here - "How can I print only one label on a sheet?" Good grief - How
much trouble is it to make a small text frame for the data and
position it where desired on an 8.5 x 11 page? Answer - None at all
if you don't use a wizard or template. Same goes for envelopes,
business cards, any other kinds of fold over cards and anything else
needing to be created. Wizards and the obsession over not having
templates to do even the most elementary of tasks is one of the main
reasons Publisher suffers from an incorrect perception of being an
amateur, entry level program. If people would take a few minutes and
actually put a little effort into creating something on their own,
they would be surprised how easy it is to do.
Rant Off:
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Ron

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
That's an excellent question. If Help doesn't help, then I Google. I
post after I've expended all of the tricks up my sleeve.

Why is creating something from scratch only considered after finding
out that the available templates are seen all over the place? I am
getting ready to create a national seminar handbook. I have the
handbooks for the last six year. One of them was DEFINITELY created
with Publisher. She used the Blends theme. There are some positive
features to this handbook but the first thing I saw was the
distinctive look.

For the record, I'm going to use Publisher (of course!) but I am NOT
using a template. I'm starting with blank pages. :-)

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Chuck Davis" newsgroup at anthemwebs dot com wrote in message
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I usually try to find an answer using help. When I do, I reply:
"Help returned the following: paste here" Never a response, but you
know they got the message. Why is "help" such an ignored 4-letter
word?
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
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1. With a template.
2. With a template.
3. With a template.
4. With a template and flowers.
5. With a template and a flashlight.


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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]