BRAAAAAAAAAAAP! Too late!

Sorry Mike, you should have told me yesterday. ;-)

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
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Do it now.. I am a very busy person and have only 30 seconds left to
complete the the task..

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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
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chuckle!

I have this desire to make one!

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
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is there a template for a BMF hammer?..

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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
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A safari in Ontario? Canada? You don't need a nudge - you need someone
with a BMF hammer to stand beside you and look menacing.

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
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Mary

I don't disagree that wizards and templates are useful, but there is
an expectation that a wizard and/or template for absolutely any
occasion or event should be supplied in as many different layouts such
that all who sit on the Church committee will agree on at least one of
them.. at some point, the 'editor' is going to have to make some
changes, and this requires time spent negotiating the learning curve..

I look at all of the templates supplied with Publisher 2003, and think
that one of them must be kinda close with a little tinkering thrown
in.. if users of Publisher can't see that, then they are not the
person for the job, and should advise the committee accordingly..

More than a few coming here need more than a nudge, especially those
who essentially want somebody here to create the whole document and
forward it to them, or they will say a whole bunch of spiteful things
to the effect that MS are lying on the subject of Publisher being easy
to use..

If somebody was to ask you "Is there a template I can use to produce a
booklet titled 'On Safari in Ohio', I would be interested to see just
how many nudges it would take to get a finished product..

Joking aside, I need to produce a booklet titled 'On Safari in
Ontario'.. I am a very busy person and have only one hour and fifteen
minutes left to produce something meaningful and with a professional
look.. please 'nudge' me (softly).. :-)


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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
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The templates and wizards are an enormous help for the unimaginative.
The church secretary that has to put together a bulletin, order of
service, prayer lists, newsletters and so on, Publisher is the right
application. A lot of organizations I have had anything to do with
have Publisher, but the folks who do the actual creation work are not
hired for their design skills, the job description only asks for
experience in using the product.
Folks come to this forum for help and a nudge in the right direction,
to denigrate the poster serves no purpose.

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Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
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Ron

Wizards for labels, envelopes etc are a good thing.. if I want a
calendar, I go out and buy one.. but printed envelopes. labels etc
are not available from my local stationery store..

I do agree that earlier Publishers were a mass of wizards, and it
was difficult to 'freehand' a job.. this is why I used PagePlus up
to version 6.. while wizards were available latterly, they could be
turned off.. having said that, a wizard was useful for starting a
document sometimes.. one could then tinker around with the results..

These days, people expect to start Publisher and find a wizard that
will instantly produce a Church social newsletter that includes
details a chess tournament against Boris Spassky to be held next
Saturday.. 'easy to use' flashes on the packaging get translated
into 'requires no effort'..

Publisher will eventually be seen as the decent DTP that it truly
is, but only after the generations that remembered Pub 95/97 are
long gone..

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Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"drc023" wrote in message
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You've just hit on my main hot button about Publisher. Even back in
the olden days when I was one of the MVP's (along with Mike B. and
Brian K.) I was fussing at MS over the emphasis they put on leading
new users to think the only way to create a document was to use a
template or wizard - a.k.a. Paint-by-Numbers DTP. IMNSHO, the only
wizard of any value is for making calendars and even the ones in
the newer versions are inferior to what was in Pub97.
Warning - Rant On:
Example of what is so ridiculous about some of the questions posed
here - "How can I print only one label on a sheet?" Good grief -
How much trouble is it to make a small text frame for the data and
position it where desired on an 8.5 x 11 page? Answer - None at all
if you don't use a wizard or template. Same goes for envelopes,
business cards, any other kinds of fold over cards and anything
else needing to be created. Wizards and the obsession over not
having templates to do even the most elementary of tasks is one of
the main reasons Publisher suffers from an incorrect perception of
being an amateur, entry level program. If people would take a few
minutes and actually put a little effort into creating something on
their own, they would be surprised how easy it is to do.
Rant Off:
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Ron

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
That's an excellent question. If Help doesn't help, then I Google.
I post after I've expended all of the tricks up my sleeve.

Why is creating something from scratch only considered after
finding out that the available templates are seen all over the
place? I am getting ready to create a national seminar handbook. I
have the handbooks for the last six year. One of them was
DEFINITELY created with Publisher. She used the Blends theme.
There are some positive features to this handbook but the first
thing I saw was the distinctive look.

For the record, I'm going to use Publisher (of course!) but I am
NOT using a template. I'm starting with blank pages. :-)

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Chuck Davis" newsgroup at anthemwebs dot com wrote in message
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I usually try to find an answer using help. When I do, I reply:
"Help returned the following: paste here" Never a response, but
you know they got the message. Why is "help" such an ignored
4-letter word?
"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
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1. With a template.
2. With a template.
3. With a template.
4. With a template and flowers.
5. With a template and a flashlight.


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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]