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Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop)
Russ, I have to sync my Microsoft Pocket PC version 4.20.0 Smartphone daily
with my Contacts for my work. I have been doing this doing without a problem for 5 years but when I upgraded from XP Professional + Outlook 2003 to a new Vista Notebook + OUTLOOK 2007 in March 2007 - Outlook 2007 goes into a NEVER ENDING SEND and RECEIVE LOOP as described by Dave. After suffering with NO help from Microsocf Support or HP Support and logging the problem in Microsoft TECH Forum on 10 March 2007 http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...8538&SiteID=17 I gave up recently and loaded Outlook 2003 and have has no problems since. THUS, this is either a OUTLOOK 2007 problem OR it is a WINDOWS MOBILE DEVICE problem syncing with OUTLOOK 2007. As I said above, I need to sync my Microsoft Pocket PC version 4.20.0 Smartphone daily with my Contacts for my work. I am really sick and fed up with MICROSOFT making their customers responsible for MICROSOFT's mess-ups. WHEN IS MOCROSOFT GOING TO CLEAN UP THEIR MESS AND FIX THIS BUG SO I CAN USE THESE VERY EXPENSIVE MICROSOFT SOFTWARE PRODUCTS THAT DON'T WORK TOGETHER????? |
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Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop)
More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the
data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even to start on this one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Richard Sargeant" wrote in message ... Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop)
It's not an Outlook 2007 problem. Problems with synchronization are totally
within the purview of the synch software. Personally, I never use a new version of Outlook for synchronization for at least a year after it's been released. I have never found any benefit to being an early adopter. Only grief. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Hoops" wrote in message ... Russ, I have to sync my Microsoft Pocket PC version 4.20.0 Smartphone daily with my Contacts for my work. I have been doing this doing without a problem for 5 years but when I upgraded from XP Professional + Outlook 2003 to a new Vista Notebook + OUTLOOK 2007 in March 2007 - Outlook 2007 goes into a NEVER ENDING SEND and RECEIVE LOOP as described by Dave. After suffering with NO help from Microsocf Support or HP Support and logging the problem in Microsoft TECH Forum on 10 March 2007 http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...8538&SiteID=17 I gave up recently and loaded Outlook 2003 and have has no problems since. THUS, this is either a OUTLOOK 2007 problem OR it is a WINDOWS MOBILE DEVICE problem syncing with OUTLOOK 2007. As I said above, I need to sync my Microsoft Pocket PC version 4.20.0 Smartphone daily with my Contacts for my work. I am really sick and fed up with MICROSOFT making their customers responsible for MICROSOFT's mess-ups. WHEN IS MOCROSOFT GOING TO CLEAN UP THEIR MESS AND FIX THIS BUG SO I CAN USE THESE VERY EXPENSIVE MICROSOFT SOFTWARE PRODUCTS THAT DON'T WORK TOGETHER????? |
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Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop)
Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook 2003 on XP
Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP Notebook - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only software that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This keeps my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking on the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then clicking on the recipient’s name and hitting send. All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do.. So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre is crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with you. What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with such a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to fix it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that their products don't work as they sell them to. Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my contacts daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails using my Outlook 2007 & contacts.? John "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even to start on this one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Richard Sargeant" wrote in message ... Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop)
Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook 2003 on XP
Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP Notebook - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only software that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This keeps my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking on the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then clicking on the recipient’s name and hitting send. All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do.. So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre is crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with you. What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with such a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to fix it - but they aren’t?? Why? Russ, do you have the answer? "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even to start on this one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Richard Sargeant" wrote in message ... Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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The point I was making is that it takes a long time for synchronization
software to get updated to the point it is totally reliable with a new Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own synchronization software. For that reason, I never attempt to use a new Outlook version as the database for a synchronization program until it is at least a year out of release. I also don't use a new OS or Office version on my production partition until a year more after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I have a lot of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being an early adopter. As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is that I never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" utilities to transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that can transfer Outlook data reliably. No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what isn't. I have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm sure they are convinced that their products are 100% reliable and compatible as soon as they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. I'm only imparting my own personal experience and "street smarts." I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay attention. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Hoops" wrote in message news Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook 2003 on XP Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP Notebook - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only software that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This keeps my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking on the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then clicking on the recipient’s name and hitting send. All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do.. So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre is crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with you. What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with such a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to fix it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that their products don't work as they sell them to. Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my contacts daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails using my Outlook 2007 & contacts.? John "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even to start on this one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Richard Sargeant" wrote in message ... Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop)
Russ
I recently started having the same looping error, but my data was imported from my old Outlooik 2003 PST to a band new Outlook 2007 PST. Everything worked fine, untill today. Now I get the looping error. I have recently I installed the new Mobile Device Software and re-sync'd my pda (XDA Orbit). So the cotacts were already in outlook prior to sync. The PDS was originally populated from Outlook, so there should have been nothing to update. Havind read this post (Thanks David - made perfect sense to me), I took one of the email that was causing the loop, and replaced the outlook inserted displayname on the To field with the actual email address. The email then sent fine with no problem... So there is possibly a link to the sync, but I belive the problem is outlook's resolving of email addresses from display names (which may have been caused by the sync / precense of Mobile Device Centre software) PS: finding and reporting these problem are the reason the 1 year old versions are stable. All good... |
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You failed to quote the post and the thread is so old no one could follow
your post. Always quote the posts in a newsgroup. Importing Outlook data is one of the surest ways to create problems, so be very detailed when you post back with what you did and why. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Bruce" wrote in message ... Russ I recently started having the same looping error, but my data was imported from my old Outlooik 2003 PST to a band new Outlook 2007 PST. Everything worked fine, untill today. Now I get the looping error. I have recently I installed the new Mobile Device Software and re-sync'd my pda (XDA Orbit). So the cotacts were already in outlook prior to sync. The PDS was originally populated from Outlook, so there should have been nothing to update. Havind read this post (Thanks David - made perfect sense to me), I took one of the email that was causing the loop, and replaced the outlook inserted displayname on the To field with the actual email address. The email then sent fine with no problem... So there is possibly a link to the sync, but I belive the problem is outlook's resolving of email addresses from display names (which may have been caused by the sync / precense of Mobile Device Centre software) PS: finding and reporting these problem are the reason the 1 year old versions are stable. All good... |
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Nobody cares about your life lessons. Please don't post if your intentions
are to degrade people instead of trying to help resolve a problem. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The point I was making is that it takes a long time for synchronization software to get updated to the point it is totally reliable with a new Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own synchronization software. For that reason, I never attempt to use a new Outlook version as the database for a synchronization program until it is at least a year out of release. I also don't use a new OS or Office version on my production partition until a year more after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I have a lot of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being an early adopter. As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is that I never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" utilities to transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that can transfer Outlook data reliably. No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what isn't. I have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm sure they are convinced that their products are 100% reliable and compatible as soon as they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. I'm only imparting my own personal experience and "street smarts." I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches you lessons when you pay attention. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Hoops" wrote in message news Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook 2003 on XP Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre software utility to my XP Notebook - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have synced using the only software that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. This keeps my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts by clicking on the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then clicking on the recipient’s name and hitting send. All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to do.. So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device Centre is crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I agree with you. What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect with such a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over backwards to fix it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that their products don't work as they sell them to. Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my contacts daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails using my Outlook 2007 & contacts.? John "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book are required even to start on this one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Richard Sargeant" wrote in message ... Russ, Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using exactly the same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst files, when I upgraded from Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened the old 2003 pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I closed the old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on yet, Outlook loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to terminate Outlook. And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new partnership and filling it with the contents of my new pst file. So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by importing or synchronising. RS |
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Outlook 2007 and Vista (Send/Receive Loop)
Seems you DO care about what Russ has to say or else you would not be replying to a thread many weeks old.
-- Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without reading. After furious head scratching, DWest asked: | Nobody cares about your life lessons. Please don't post if your | intentions are to degrade people instead of trying to help resolve a | problem. | | | "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: | || The point I was making is that it takes a long time for || synchronization software to get updated to the point it is totally || reliable with a new Outlook version, even if it is Microsoft's own || synchronization software. For that reason, I never attempt to use a || new Outlook version as the database for a synchronization program || until it is at least a year out of release. I also don't use a new || OS or Office version on my production partition until a year more || after its release. Half of the third party apps and drivers I need || won't work with a new OS or Office version for at least a year. I || have a lot of headaches already. I do not need the headache of being || an early adopter. || || As for the rest of your question, the other point I would make is || that I never rely on an operating system's "automatic transfer" || utilities to transfer Outlook data. I have never seen one yet that || can transfer Outlook data reliably. || || No, you may not put words in my mouth as to what is "crap" and what || isn't. I have no idea what Microsoft's stance is on any of this. I'm || sure they are convinced that their products are 100% reliable and || compatible as soon as they RTM, so there is no "solution" needed. || I'm only imparting my own personal experience and "street smarts." || || I never quite understand why people who rush to adopt all the latest || software releases expect those disparate programs to work flawlessly || together right away. Common sense would dictate a more careful and || thoughtful approach to the adoption of new technology. There are || countless parallels to that wisdom in other venues where the stakes || are often much higher. Read up on the problems created by the early || widespread adoption of drug-eluting coronary stents. Life teaches || you lessons when you pay attention. || -- || Russ Valentine || [MVP-Outlook] || "Hoops" wrote in message || news ||| Russ, I was using Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5 software with Outlook ||| 2003 on XP ||| Professional on my old Notebook. To transfer from one computer to ||| another Microsoft provide transfer software. The Microsoft ||| transfer software provided by VISTA is the VISTA Backup and Restore ||| Centre. As instructed I copied the VISTA Backup and Restore Centre ||| software utility to my XP Notebook ||| - I ran it as instructed which created a Transfer Log and then, as ||| instructed, I Restored this to my Vista Notebook. That ||| transferred my contacts into Outlook 2007. Thereafter I have ||| synced using the only software ||| that works with VISTA which is Microsoft's Mobile device Centre. ||| This keeps ||| my contacts current with my Smartphone mobile computer. As needed, ||| I have tried to forward emails received to addresses in my contacts ||| by clicking on ||| the "To" field which takes me to "name select" in contacts and then ||| clicking ||| on the recipient’s name and hitting send. ||| ||| All very simple & straight forward and as Microsoft instructs us to ||| do.. ||| ||| So as I understand it Russ, you say that Microsoft's Mobile device ||| Centre is ||| crap and not 10% as good as Microsoft ActiveSync 4.5? If so, I ||| agree with you. ||| ||| What is the solution being offered by Microsoft?? I would expect ||| with such ||| a basic problem as this that Microsoft would be bending over ||| backwards to fix ||| it - but they aren’t?? It is as if they simply don't care that ||| their products don't work as they sell them to. ||| ||| Do you have a fix to this problem that will allow me to sync my ||| contacts daily with my Smartphone and to be able to sent emails ||| using my Outlook 2007 ||| & contacts.? ||| ||| John ||| ||| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: ||| |||| More details on how you are selecting the recipients, how you |||| copied the data, and how you configured the Outlook Address Book |||| are required even to |||| start on this one. |||| -- |||| Russ Valentine |||| [MVP-Outlook] |||| "Richard Sargeant" |||| wrote in message |||| ... ||||| Russ, ||||| ||||| Unfortunately I have exactly the same problems as Dave, using ||||| exactly the ||||| same software versions. In my case, mindful of problems I've ||||| previously experienced with old format and/or corrupted pst ||||| files, when I upgraded from ||||| Outlook 2003 I created a shiny new empty pst file. Then I opened ||||| the old ||||| 2003 ||||| pst file and copied everything from it to my new file. Finally I ||||| closed the ||||| old file. Now, under conditions I haven't quite got my finger on ||||| yet, Outlook ||||| loops on send/receive, the message is not sent and I have to ||||| terminate Outlook. ||||| ||||| And yes, I too have a Windows Mobile device, 2003R2 in my case. ||||| But I deleted everything from it before setting up a new ||||| partnership and filling ||||| it ||||| with the contents of my new pst file. ||||| ||||| So there seems to be more to this than problems caused by ||||| importing or synchronising. ||||| ||||| RS |
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