WLM Spellchecker, MS Office Packages, Office Updates.

Interesting.
It is very seldom that you'll see Microsoft recommend a third party
solution in order to fix one of their own blunders. :-)

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Beth Melton" wrote in message ...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office 2003 you
can't validate the installation. This results in the inability to download
anything from Microsoft since it won't pass the Genuine Advantage test. You
need to install something else that will trigger activation. However it
doesn't make sense to install something if you don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll encounter a
conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may work but
I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools from a
third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office 2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message
...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it because
the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French language.

Yes...

Bad Precedent... g
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...

Interesting.
It is very seldom that you'll see Microsoft recommend a third party
solution in order to fix one of their own blunders. :-)

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office 2003 you
can't validate the installation. This results in the inability to
download
anything from Microsoft since it won't pass the Genuine Advantage test.
You
need to install something else that will trigger activation. However it
doesn't make sense to install something if you don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll encounter a
conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may work
but
I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools from a
third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office 2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message
...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it
because
the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French language.

You're welcome.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Ibex" wrote in message ...
This'll keep me busy for a while, thanks

Beth,
If the op decides to return to OE(instead of the current choice to use WLM) and install Office 2007(with OL) and also the proofing
tools from Office 2003, does this mean:
a. Office 2007 will fail validation
b. Office 2003 will fail validation
c. both Office 2003 and 2007 fail validation
d. Windows XPSp3 also fails validation

If only (b), what would the person need to download from Microsoft.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Beth Melton" wrote in message ...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office 2003 you can't validate the installation. This results in the
inability to download anything from Microsoft since it won't pass the Genuine Advantage test. You need to install something else
that will trigger activation. However it doesn't make sense to install something if you don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll encounter a conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may work but I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools from a third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message ...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office 2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message ...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it because the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French language.

That may be so. However, you can use standard Microsoft proofing files
for various languages in Windows Live Mail, (including many variations
of the English language), without installing Microsoft Office in its
latest or any previous incarnation. There is no need to install third
party spellcheck software.

Windows Live Mail has its own built-in spellcheck files, which are
totally independent of the Microsoft Office suite (or installed
components from Microsoft Office). It follows that you don't need to
physically install proofing tools from Office 2000, Office XP or Office
2003 to use any of the standard spellcheckers in Windows Live Mail. In
that respect, WLMail is completely different from Outlook Express.

The default spellchecker is English (United States) - but you can add
Korean, French, German and/or Spanish from a short list of other
languages. Furthermore, it is not difficult to chnage the English
spellchecker from English (United States) to English (United Kingdom) or
English (Canada).

Office 2007 does not interfere with spellchecking in WLMail. - and there
for English, French, German and Spanish, there is no need to attempt a
separate or partial installation of proofing tools from Office 2000 or
Office 2003. For languages that are not included as standard options in
WLMail (such as Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, etc.), Windows Live Mail can
use local LEX and DLL files from Office 2000 or 2003.

For any additional language, merely copy the files from an Office 2000
or 2003 installation disk (or from an installation of Office 2000 or
2003 on the same, or another computer) - to the appropriate location in
WLMail (see below) and edit the spell.ini file in that folder.

You must create a separate folder for each language and for non-English
languages, you would need to identify the decimal and hexadecimal IDs
for each country. For further information, see
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!223.entry
(which deals with different variations of the English spellchecker).


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office 2003
you can't validate the installation. This results in the inability to
download anything from Microsoft since it won't pass the Genuine
Advantage test. You need to install something else that will trigger
activation. However it doesn't make sense to install something if you
don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll encounter a
conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may
work but I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools
from a third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office 2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message
...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it
because the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French language.

That certainly requires clarification.
Frankly I don't see why Office 2003 would even require validation
since none of its main apps are installed, just proofing tools.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"...winston" wrote in message ...
Beth,
If the op decides to return to OE(instead of the current choice to use WLM) and install Office 2007(with OL) and also the proofing
tools from Office 2003, does this mean:
a. Office 2007 will fail validation
b. Office 2003 will fail validation
c. both Office 2003 and 2007 fail validation
d. Windows XPSp3 also fails validation

If only (b), what would the person need to download from Microsoft.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Beth Melton" wrote in message ...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office 2003 you can't validate the installation. This results in the
inability to download anything from Microsoft since it won't pass the Genuine Advantage test. You need to install something else
that will trigger activation. However it doesn't make sense to install something if you don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll encounter a conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may work but I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools from a third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message ...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office 2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message ...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it because the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French language.

I've only aware of conflicts with installing only the 03proofing tools on an XP/Off2K7 sytem are updates that may be deployed via
MU or manually installed(via Msft download site or Office Online) or attempting to install and add-in from the Office on-line
downloads sites that require Office GVA.

As far as the later GVA issues with Off2K7 or Windows XP maybe Beth can clarify.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message ...
That certainly requires clarification.
Frankly I don't see why Office 2003 would even require validation
since none of its main apps are installed, just proofing tools.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"...winston" wrote in message ...
Beth,
If the op decides to return to OE(instead of the current choice to use WLM) and install Office 2007(with OL) and also the
proofing
tools from Office 2003, does this mean:
a. Office 2007 will fail validation
b. Office 2003 will fail validation
c. both Office 2003 and 2007 fail validation
d. Windows XPSp3 also fails validation

If only (b), what would the person need to download from Microsoft.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Beth Melton" wrote in message ...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office 2003 you can't validate the installation. This results in the
inability to download anything from Microsoft since it won't pass the Genuine Advantage test. You need to install something
else
that will trigger activation. However it doesn't make sense to install something if you don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll encounter a conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may work but I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools from a third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message ...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office 2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message ...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it because the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French language.

How about e. Office 2007 and Windows will fail the Genuine Advantage test
and you're unable to download anything that requires you to pass the test.
:-)

If the OP wants to keep OE and install the Proofing Tools from Office 2003
then they'd need to install more than just the Proofing Tools in order to
trigger activation.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx


"...winston" wrote in message
...
Beth,
If the op decides to return to OE(instead of the current choice to use
WLM) and install Office 2007(with OL) and also the proofing tools from
Office 2003, does this mean:
a. Office 2007 will fail validation
b. Office 2003 will fail validation
c. both Office 2003 and 2007 fail validation
d. Windows XPSp3 also fails validation

If only (b), what would the person need to download from Microsoft.

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office 2003 you
can't validate the installation. This results in the inability to
download anything from Microsoft since it won't pass the Genuine
Advantage test. You need to install something else that will trigger
activation. However it doesn't make sense to install something if you
don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll encounter a
conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may work
but I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools from a
third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office 2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message
...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it
because the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French language.

So the presence of only the 03 Proofing Tools on an XP/Office 2007 system causes Windows and Office 2007 to fail even if
downloading the updates manually from the Msft Download site even with Office using a separate Active X GVA add-on.

Thanks...time to run a test on an XPSp3 system
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Beth Melton" wrote in message ...
How about e. Office 2007 and Windows will fail the Genuine Advantage test and you're unable to download anything that requires
you to pass the test. :-)

If the OP wants to keep OE and install the Proofing Tools from Office 2003 then they'd need to install more than just the
Proofing Tools in order to trigger activation.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx


"...winston" wrote in message ...
Beth,
If the op decides to return to OE(instead of the current choice to use WLM) and install Office 2007(with OL) and also the
proofing tools from Office 2003, does this mean:
a. Office 2007 will fail validation
b. Office 2003 will fail validation
c. both Office 2003 and 2007 fail validation
d. Windows XPSp3 also fails validation

If only (b), what would the person need to download from Microsoft.

"Beth Melton" wrote in message ...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office 2003 you can't validate the installation. This results in the
inability to download anything from Microsoft since it won't pass the Genuine Advantage test. You need to install something
else that will trigger activation. However it doesn't make sense to install something if you don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll encounter a conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may work but I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools from a third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message ...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office 2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message ...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it because the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French language.

This is becoming unnecessarily complicated.

Outlook Express did not have its own spellchecker, and depended upon the
spellchecker in Microsoft Office 2003 (or earlier). An installation of
Office 2007 "breaks" the spellchecker in Outlook Express.

Windows Live Mail has its own, dedicated spellchecker, which does not
depend upon the spellchecker in any version of Microsoft Office.
Consequently, a new installation of Office 2007 (or an upgrade from
Office 2003) has no effect upon WL Mail.

I accept that you would probably suffer conflicts, if you tried to
install elements from Office 2003 and 2007 simultaneously on one
computer. However, the presence of WLMail has no bearing whatsoever
upon the decision whether to install Office 2007, in preference to
Office 2003.

Furthermore, I would be most surprised, if Microsoft Office conflicted
with WLMail (or vice versa), because Microsoft Office XP, 2000, 2003 or
2007 are entirely different programs from Windows Live Mail - and I see
no reason why anyone might want to install both versions simultaneously.

By way of additional information, the built-in spellchecker in WL Mail
is available in a fairly short list of languages. If the OP wanted to
add more languages, he could "import" or "copy" the relevant LEX and DLL
files from Microsoft Office 2003 (or earlier). However, COPYING two
files is an entirely different concept from attempting to INSTALL the
proofing tools from Office 2003 (or earlier).

There is no need to install Office 2003 (or earlier) - merely copy the
relevant LEX and DLL spell-check files to the "C:\Documents and
Settings\[User Name]\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
Live Mail\Proof\prf0xxx\1" folder (where "0xxx" in "prf0xxx" is a
variable that defines the language).


"...winston" wrote in message
...
So the presence of only the 03 Proofing Tools on an XP/Office 2007
system causes Windows and Office 2007 to fail even if downloading the
updates manually from the Msft Download site even with Office using a
separate Active X GVA add-on.

Thanks...time to run a test on an XPSp3 system
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
How about e. Office 2007 and Windows will fail the Genuine Advantage
test and you're unable to download anything that requires you to pass
the test. :-)

If the OP wants to keep OE and install the Proofing Tools from Office
2003 then they'd need to install more than just the Proofing Tools in
order to trigger activation.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx


"...winston" wrote in message
...
Beth,
If the op decides to return to OE(instead of the current choice to
use WLM) and install Office 2007(with OL) and also the proofing
tools from Office 2003, does this mean:
a. Office 2007 will fail validation
b. Office 2003 will fail validation
c. both Office 2003 and 2007 fail validation
d. Windows XPSp3 also fails validation

If only (b), what would the person need to download from Microsoft.

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
If you install only the proofing tools from Office XP or Office
2003 you can't validate the installation. This results in the
inability to download anything from Microsoft since it won't pass
the Genuine Advantage test. You need to install something else that
will trigger activation. However it doesn't make sense to install
something if you don't need it. :-)

If you install proofing tools from Office 2000 then you'll
encounter a conflict with SmartTags.

I didn't test the proofing tools from previous versions so they may
work but I suspect they'll have issues too.

Currently, Microsoft's recommendation is to install proofing tools
from a third party. Here's their KB article on this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932974


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote in message
...
I understand the fix for that is to simply reinstall the Office
2003
Proofing tools, after installing Office 2007.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ibex" wrote in message
...
[snip]
I've got a Microsoft Office Suite 2007 CD but never installed it
because the
spellchecker in Outlook Express6 worked only in the French
language.