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Old October 20th, 2007, 06:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Greg Maxey
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Posts: 259
Default How do I set up default paragraphs in tables

Stefan,

It can be set as the default table style for an individual document
but while all indications that that choice is being saved to the
normal.dotm it doesn't stick.

To set it as default for a document. First use Apply Styles and type
in Table Normal. That will insert a Table Normal table and add the
style to the Table Styles Gallery. You can then set it to default
(with options to save it to the template that don't seem to work) :-(


On Sep 20, 4:41 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
It seems, however, as if Table Normal can not be set as the default style in
Word 2007. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...



Good idea, since Table Normal cannot be modified (and is the "parent" of
most other table styles).


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
. ..
I have Table Normal selected as my default table style, which is a big
help.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
.. .
Table styles are always present (in much the same way that every
paragraph
has a paragraph style) from Word 2002 and later versions. The default
table
style is usually Table Grid (but note that this can also be changed).
Therefore, I suggest that you verify its settings, as described below.


With the insertion point inside a table, click the Table Tools: Design
tab
on the ribbon. Click the bottom right arrow in the list box with table
formats (styles). Under "Plain Tables," you'll see the Table Grid style.
Right-click it, and then click Modify Table Style.


In the Modify Style dialog box, click Format, Paragraph. Set the indents
to
zero. Click OK. You may also want to verify that the cell margins
(Format,
Table Properties) are set to zero. When you are done, click OK. Finally,
click OK to close the entire dialog box. Does this help?


Note that the modification must be done separately for each document. If
the
problem occurs with the normal.dotm template, you could just rename it
(with
Word closed); a fresh file with factory default settings will be created
the
next time you start Word.


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"liondog" wrote in message
...
But I custom make all my tables, since I don't want to be locked into
any
particular style that can't be manipulated as I change my mind during
the
processing. Is there any place in preferences where I can eliminate
all
automatic indents (in all my documents)?
liondog


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Table styles were new in Word 2002. Word 2000 offered Table
AutoFormats,
and
you could select your default (favorite) one, but Word 2002 allowed
you
to
actually define a specific AutoFormat, which includes formatting for
top
and
left rows, first cell, last cell, striping, etc. But see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.


"liondog" wrote in message
...
Stefan;
What is "table styles"? I use tables all the time (make my own).
Is
this
something new in 2007? I am still struggling to find everything in
the
2007
version.
liondog


"Stefan Blom" wrote:


Are you using table styles? Note that you'll probably find it
easier
to
format the text of table cells by applying the appropriate
*paragraph*
styles to text.


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"liondog" wrote in message
...
My text disappeares at the end of a cell within Tables. The fix
is
to
to
to
Paragraphs and re-set the insert to 0". For some reason it is
defaulted
to
an indent. I've tried hitting the DEFAULT button after
resetting
to
0",
but
it never "defaults." I have to reset it again and again as I
work
through
the table (sometimes, but not always, I'm able to highlight a
group
and
set
it to 0" and it works).


Help. I have Office 2007. Had the same problem with Office
2003.- Hide quoted text -


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  #12  
Old October 23rd, 2007, 01:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Stefan Blom
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Default How do I set up default paragraphs in tables

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
ups.com...
Stefan,

It can be set as the default table style for an individual document
but while all indications that that choice is being saved to the
normal.dotm it doesn't stick.


True. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




To set it as default for a document. First use Apply Styles and type
in Table Normal. That will insert a Table Normal table and add the
style to the Table Styles Gallery. You can then set it to default
(with options to save it to the template that don't seem to work) :-(


On Sep 20, 4:41 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
It seems, however, as if Table Normal can not be set as the default style
in
Word 2007. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...



Good idea, since Table Normal cannot be modified (and is the "parent"
of
most other table styles).


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
. ..
I have Table Normal selected as my default table style, which is a big
help.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
.. .
Table styles are always present (in much the same way that every
paragraph
has a paragraph style) from Word 2002 and later versions. The default
table
style is usually Table Grid (but note that this can also be changed).
Therefore, I suggest that you verify its settings, as described
below.


With the insertion point inside a table, click the Table Tools:
Design
tab
on the ribbon. Click the bottom right arrow in the list box with
table
formats (styles). Under "Plain Tables," you'll see the Table Grid
style.
Right-click it, and then click Modify Table Style.


In the Modify Style dialog box, click Format, Paragraph. Set the
indents
to
zero. Click OK. You may also want to verify that the cell margins
(Format,
Table Properties) are set to zero. When you are done, click OK.
Finally,
click OK to close the entire dialog box. Does this help?


Note that the modification must be done separately for each document.
If
the
problem occurs with the normal.dotm template, you could just rename
it
(with
Word closed); a fresh file with factory default settings will be
created
the
next time you start Word.


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"liondog" wrote in message
...
But I custom make all my tables, since I don't want to be locked
into
any
particular style that can't be manipulated as I change my mind
during
the
processing. Is there any place in preferences where I can
eliminate
all
automatic indents (in all my documents)?
liondog


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Table styles were new in Word 2002. Word 2000 offered Table
AutoFormats,
and
you could select your default (favorite) one, but Word 2002
allowed
you
to
actually define a specific AutoFormat, which includes formatting
for
top
and
left rows, first cell, last cell, striping, etc. But see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.


"liondog" wrote in message
...
Stefan;
What is "table styles"? I use tables all the time (make my
own).
Is
this
something new in 2007? I am still struggling to find everything
in
the
2007
version.
liondog


"Stefan Blom" wrote:


Are you using table styles? Note that you'll probably find it
easier
to
format the text of table cells by applying the appropriate
*paragraph*
styles to text.


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"liondog" wrote in message
...
My text disappeares at the end of a cell within Tables. The
fix
is
to
to
to
Paragraphs and re-set the insert to 0". For some reason it
is
defaulted
to
an indent. I've tried hitting the DEFAULT button after
resetting
to
0",
but
it never "defaults." I have to reset it again and again as
I
work
through
the table (sometimes, but not always, I'm able to highlight
a
group
and
set
it to 0" and it works).


Help. I have Office 2007. Had the same problem with Office
2003.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -







  #13  
Old October 23rd, 2007, 09:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Greg Maxey
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 290
Default How do I set up default paragraphs in tables

Stefan,

It seems that even this is only temporary. Table Normal can be set as the
default style in the current instance of the open document but if I close
and reopen the document it again fails to stick :-(


--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
ups.com...
Stefan,

It can be set as the default table style for an individual document
but while all indications that that choice is being saved to the
normal.dotm it doesn't stick.


True. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




To set it as default for a document. First use Apply Styles and type
in Table Normal. That will insert a Table Normal table and add the
style to the Table Styles Gallery. You can then set it to default
(with options to save it to the template that don't seem to work) :-(


On Sep 20, 4:41 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
It seems, however, as if Table Normal can not be set as the default
style
in
Word 2007. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...



Good idea, since Table Normal cannot be modified (and is the "parent"
of
most other table styles).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
. ..
I have Table Normal selected as my default table style, which is a big
help.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
.. .
Table styles are always present (in much the same way that every
paragraph
has a paragraph style) from Word 2002 and later versions. The
default
table
style is usually Table Grid (but note that this can also be
changed).
Therefore, I suggest that you verify its settings, as described
below.

With the insertion point inside a table, click the Table Tools:
Design
tab
on the ribbon. Click the bottom right arrow in the list box with
table
formats (styles). Under "Plain Tables," you'll see the Table Grid
style.
Right-click it, and then click Modify Table Style.

In the Modify Style dialog box, click Format, Paragraph. Set the
indents
to
zero. Click OK. You may also want to verify that the cell margins
(Format,
Table Properties) are set to zero. When you are done, click OK.
Finally,
click OK to close the entire dialog box. Does this help?

Note that the modification must be done separately for each
document.
If
the
problem occurs with the normal.dotm template, you could just rename
it
(with
Word closed); a fresh file with factory default settings will be
created
the
next time you start Word.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"liondog" wrote in message
...
But I custom make all my tables, since I don't want to be locked
into
any
particular style that can't be manipulated as I change my mind
during
the
processing. Is there any place in preferences where I can
eliminate
all
automatic indents (in all my documents)?
liondog

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Table styles were new in Word 2002. Word 2000 offered Table
AutoFormats,
and
you could select your default (favorite) one, but Word 2002
allowed
you
to
actually define a specific AutoFormat, which includes formatting
for
top
and
left rows, first cell, last cell, striping, etc. But see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"liondog" wrote in message
...
Stefan;
What is "table styles"? I use tables all the time (make my
own).
Is
this
something new in 2007? I am still struggling to find
everything
in
the
2007
version.
liondog

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Are you using table styles? Note that you'll probably find it
easier
to
format the text of table cells by applying the appropriate
*paragraph*
styles to text.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"liondog" wrote in message
...
My text disappeares at the end of a cell within Tables. The
fix
is
to
to
to
Paragraphs and re-set the insert to 0". For some reason it
is
defaulted
to
an indent. I've tried hitting the DEFAULT button after
resetting
to
0",
but
it never "defaults." I have to reset it again and again as
I
work
through
the table (sometimes, but not always, I'm able to highlight
a
group
and
set
it to 0" and it works).

Help. I have Office 2007. Had the same problem with
Office
2003.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -









  #14  
Old October 24th, 2007, 10:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Stefan Blom
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 8,433
Default How do I set up default paragraphs in tables

Hmm, I wonder if this means that we are seeing a design change (rather than
a bug)? If so, it seems as if we are not supposed to use Table Normal at
all.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
Stefan,

It seems that even this is only temporary. Table Normal can be set as the
default style in the current instance of the open document but if I close
and reopen the document it again fails to stick :-(


--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
ups.com...
Stefan,

It can be set as the default table style for an individual document
but while all indications that that choice is being saved to the
normal.dotm it doesn't stick.


True. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




To set it as default for a document. First use Apply Styles and type
in Table Normal. That will insert a Table Normal table and add the
style to the Table Styles Gallery. You can then set it to default
(with options to save it to the template that don't seem to work) :-(


On Sep 20, 4:41 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote:
It seems, however, as if Table Normal can not be set as the default
style
in
Word 2007. :-(

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message

...



Good idea, since Table Normal cannot be modified (and is the "parent"
of
most other table styles).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
. ..
I have Table Normal selected as my default table style, which is a
big
help.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
.. .
Table styles are always present (in much the same way that every
paragraph
has a paragraph style) from Word 2002 and later versions. The
default
table
style is usually Table Grid (but note that this can also be
changed).
Therefore, I suggest that you verify its settings, as described
below.

With the insertion point inside a table, click the Table Tools:
Design
tab
on the ribbon. Click the bottom right arrow in the list box with
table
formats (styles). Under "Plain Tables," you'll see the Table Grid
style.
Right-click it, and then click Modify Table Style.

In the Modify Style dialog box, click Format, Paragraph. Set the
indents
to
zero. Click OK. You may also want to verify that the cell margins
(Format,
Table Properties) are set to zero. When you are done, click OK.
Finally,
click OK to close the entire dialog box. Does this help?

Note that the modification must be done separately for each
document.
If
the
problem occurs with the normal.dotm template, you could just rename
it
(with
Word closed); a fresh file with factory default settings will be
created
the
next time you start Word.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"liondog" wrote in message
...
But I custom make all my tables, since I don't want to be locked
into
any
particular style that can't be manipulated as I change my mind
during
the
processing. Is there any place in preferences where I can
eliminate
all
automatic indents (in all my documents)?
liondog

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Table styles were new in Word 2002. Word 2000 offered Table
AutoFormats,
and
you could select your default (favorite) one, but Word 2002
allowed
you
to
actually define a specific AutoFormat, which includes formatting
for
top
and
left rows, first cell, last cell, striping, etc. But see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site:http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"liondog" wrote in message
...
Stefan;
What is "table styles"? I use tables all the time (make my
own).
Is
this
something new in 2007? I am still struggling to find
everything
in
the
2007
version.
liondog

"Stefan Blom" wrote:

Are you using table styles? Note that you'll probably find
it
easier
to
format the text of table cells by applying the appropriate
*paragraph*
styles to text.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"liondog" wrote in message
...
My text disappeares at the end of a cell within Tables.
The
fix
is
to
to
to
Paragraphs and re-set the insert to 0". For some reason
it
is
defaulted
to
an indent. I've tried hitting the DEFAULT button after
resetting
to
0",
but
it never "defaults." I have to reset it again and again
as
I
work
through
the table (sometimes, but not always, I'm able to
highlight
a
group
and
set
it to 0" and it works).

Help. I have Office 2007. Had the same problem with
Office
2003.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -














 




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