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Old January 16th, 2005, 04:41 PM
Ron
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Default color change of imported pictures in slide show view

PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insertfrom file) to normal view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12 mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.

Nikon D70 with manual focus 120mm lense, file size 2.1 mb yields a properly
colored slide without any color distortion.

Nikon 885 with AF, file size 989 kb also yields a properly colored slide
without any color distortion.

Any thoughts about the cause of coloration distortion? This is driving me
crazy!
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Old January 16th, 2005, 05:32 PM
Sonia
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What is the file format of the image and was it processed in Photoshop before
inserting in PowerPoint? PowerPoint renders everything in RGB. Is your image
CMYK?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Ron" wrote in message
...
PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insertfrom file) to normal view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12 mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.

Nikon D70 with manual focus 120mm lense, file size 2.1 mb yields a properly
colored slide without any color distortion.

Nikon 885 with AF, file size 989 kb also yields a properly colored slide
without any color distortion.

Any thoughts about the cause of coloration distortion? This is driving me
crazy!



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Old January 16th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Ron
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Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?
Ron
"Sonia" wrote:

What is the file format of the image and was it processed in Photoshop before
inserting in PowerPoint? PowerPoint renders everything in RGB. Is your image
CMYK?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Ron" wrote in message
...
PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insertfrom file) to normal view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12 mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.

Nikon D70 with manual focus 120mm lense, file size 2.1 mb yields a properly
colored slide without any color distortion.

Nikon 885 with AF, file size 989 kb also yields a properly colored slide
without any color distortion.

Any thoughts about the cause of coloration distortion? This is driving me
crazy!




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Old January 16th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Sonia
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Your camera probably renders in RGB, but you should be able to find the image in
Windows Explorer, right click it and select Properties and click on the Summary
tab. You might see a color setting value of sRGB. It all depends on the camera
and whether you have it set to capture all of the info in the output file. I
wonder if your camera came with any software that you've installed and which
uses "color management". Do you know?

Also, I would check a few things: What is your display resolution and what
color depth is set? 24 or 32 bit is best. You should check to see whether
there is a new driver available for your video card. If so, download and
install it.

Can you tell us more about the image problem? You say that it isn't
recognizable. Do you just mean the color has changed? What has it change from
and to? Is it like a "wash" of a particular color, or have all the colors
changed to something different?

"Ron" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?
Ron
"Sonia" wrote:

What is the file format of the image and was it processed in Photoshop before
inserting in PowerPoint? PowerPoint renders everything in RGB. Is your
image
CMYK?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Ron" wrote in message
...
PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insertfrom file) to normal view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12 mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.

Nikon D70 with manual focus 120mm lense, file size 2.1 mb yields a
properly
colored slide without any color distortion.

Nikon 885 with AF, file size 989 kb also yields a properly colored slide
without any color distortion.

Any thoughts about the cause of coloration distortion? This is driving me
crazy!






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Old January 16th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Steve Rindsberg
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In article , Ron wrote:
PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insertfrom file) to normal view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12 mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.


It may have to do with the format of the image and what apps it went through to
get into PPT. The D70 can give you Raw, JPG or Raw+JPG images. Which are you
using?

Some image formats can include "metadata", data about the image as opposed to
just the image data itself. JPGs from digicams typically include lots of this
stuff; exposure, date, camera data and so on. Sometimes programs downstream
that open the images will misunderstand some of the data and produce odd
results. How did you get the images from the D70 onto your computer and what
did you do with them from there?




Nikon D70 with manual focus 120mm lense, file size 2.1 mb yields a properly
colored slide without any color distortion.

Nikon 885 with AF, file size 989 kb also yields a properly colored slide
without any color distortion.

Any thoughts about the cause of coloration distortion? This is driving me
crazy!


-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================


  #6  
Old January 16th, 2005, 07:21 PM
Steve Rindsberg
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In article , Ron wrote:
Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?


The camera only produces RGB. No problem there, so long your image editing
software isn't doing a CMYK conversion.

-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================


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Old January 17th, 2005, 12:19 AM
Ron
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In the two pictures that project well in slide show, the "color
representation" property is sRGB. In the picture that exhibits color
distortion, the "color representation" property is listed as "uncalibrated".

My Niikon camera did come with "color management" software. jHowever, since
I experienced no difficulty with the first lense, I have not installed it. I
am saving everything in a "fine JPEG" format and am not saving anything using
a "raw" format, Using the raw format dictates that I must use the camera
color management software.

My monitor resolution is 1024 x 768 and the color quality is 32
bit(highest). I will check about the availability of a new driver tommorrow.

The color has changed from a normal anticipated color with recognizable and
anticipated shapes to unrecogniizable shape and coloration that has no
relation to the expected color. In this case,the slide is almost totally a
luminescent pink with a small distribution of green in the upper right corner.

An interesting development in my three slide ppt presntation test; now the
slide show view is normal and the distorted (as described above) picture now
occupies the work space location in the normal view, while a normal picture
is seen in the slides tab of the normal viewl So the situation is improved,
but not predictable!

Additionally, does CMYK mean cyan magenta yellow black? If this is true,
what does it imply?

"Sonia" wrote:

Your camera probably renders in RGB, but you should be able to find the image in
Windows Explorer, right click it and select Properties and click on the Summary
tab. You might see a color setting value of sRGB. It all depends on the camera
and whether you have it set to capture all of the info in the output file. I
wonder if your camera came with any software that you've installed and which
uses "color management". Do you know?

Also, I would check a few things: What is your display resolution and what
color depth is set? 24 or 32 bit is best. You should check to see whether
there is a new driver available for your video card. If so, download and
install it.

Can you tell us more about the image problem? You say that it isn't
recognizable. Do you just mean the color has changed? What has it change from
and to? Is it like a "wash" of a particular color, or have all the colors
changed to something different?

"Ron" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?
Ron
"Sonia" wrote:

What is the file format of the image and was it processed in Photoshop before
inserting in PowerPoint? PowerPoint renders everything in RGB. Is your
image
CMYK?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Ron" wrote in message
...
PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insertfrom file) to normal view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12 mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.

Nikon D70 with manual focus 120mm lense, file size 2.1 mb yields a
properly
colored slide without any color distortion.

Nikon 885 with AF, file size 989 kb also yields a properly colored slide
without any color distortion.

Any thoughts about the cause of coloration distortion? This is driving me
crazy!






  #8  
Old January 17th, 2005, 12:22 AM
Michael Rainey
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I'm just learning the program. Was having trouble importing .bmp files into
Powerpoint 97 - they came in with a very strong magenta tone that made the
slide unusable. Installed Powerpoint 2000 into a separate directory, it
brings the bitmaps in perfectly. No changes to the computer or operating
system (XP Home, SP2).


"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Ron

wrote:
Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not

processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement

is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?


The camera only produces RGB. No problem there, so long your image

editing
software isn't doing a CMYK conversion.

-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================




  #9  
Old January 17th, 2005, 12:27 AM
Ron
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I responded to the CYMK statemtne after you wrote this response. I believe
that CYMK means cyan-magenta-yellow-black. If this is true, I still dont know
exactly what this means. To the best of my knowledge, I am not using any
editing software.
Thank you for your response.

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

In article , Ron wrote:
Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?


The camera only produces RGB. No problem there, so long your image editing
software isn't doing a CMYK conversion.

-----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================



  #10  
Old January 17th, 2005, 12:44 AM
Sonia
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If you have image editing software (Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, etc.) I think I
would open the file, size it to 1024 X 768 pixels, and then save it as a PNG
file and try it in PowerPoint. That won't correct what's going on in the
camera, but it might get you a displayable image.

I don't know what the color representation of "uncalibrated" means. Steve
might. Did you use different settings for that particular image?

CMYK is the color model used for printing processes.

"Ron" wrote in message
...
In the two pictures that project well in slide show, the "color
representation" property is sRGB. In the picture that exhibits color
distortion, the "color representation" property is listed as "uncalibrated".

My Niikon camera did come with "color management" software. jHowever, since
I experienced no difficulty with the first lense, I have not installed it. I
am saving everything in a "fine JPEG" format and am not saving anything using
a "raw" format, Using the raw format dictates that I must use the camera
color management software.

My monitor resolution is 1024 x 768 and the color quality is 32
bit(highest). I will check about the availability of a new driver tommorrow.

The color has changed from a normal anticipated color with recognizable and
anticipated shapes to unrecogniizable shape and coloration that has no
relation to the expected color. In this case,the slide is almost totally a
luminescent pink with a small distribution of green in the upper right corner.

An interesting development in my three slide ppt presntation test; now the
slide show view is normal and the distorted (as described above) picture now
occupies the work space location in the normal view, while a normal picture
is seen in the slides tab of the normal viewl So the situation is improved,
but not predictable!

Additionally, does CMYK mean cyan magenta yellow black? If this is true,
what does it imply?

"Sonia" wrote:

Your camera probably renders in RGB, but you should be able to find the image
in
Windows Explorer, right click it and select Properties and click on the
Summary
tab. You might see a color setting value of sRGB. It all depends on the
camera
and whether you have it set to capture all of the info in the output file. I
wonder if your camera came with any software that you've installed and which
uses "color management". Do you know?

Also, I would check a few things: What is your display resolution and what
color depth is set? 24 or 32 bit is best. You should check to see whether
there is a new driver available for your video card. If so, download and
install it.

Can you tell us more about the image problem? You say that it isn't
recognizable. Do you just mean the color has changed? What has it change
from
and to? Is it like a "wash" of a particular color, or have all the colors
changed to something different?

"Ron" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your response. The file format is JPEG and it was not
processed
in photoshop! Sorry, but I'm not familiar with CMYK. Your RGB statement is
interesting. Should the camera be cooridinated in some way with RGB?
Ron
"Sonia" wrote:

What is the file format of the image and was it processed in Photoshop
before
inserting in PowerPoint? PowerPoint renders everything in RGB. Is your
image
CMYK?
--

Sonia Coleman
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team
Autorun Software, Templates and Tutorials

"Ron" wrote in message
...
PP version 2002-When I import a picture(insertfrom file) to normal
view, I
have no difficulty. Upon changing to slide show view, pictures from one
source change colors to become an unrecognizable slide.
Nikon D70 with AF 105mm lense, manual exposure settings,file size 2.12
mb
yields an extremely distorted color change picture in slide show view.

Nikon D70 with manual focus 120mm lense, file size 2.1 mb yields a
properly
colored slide without any color distortion.

Nikon 885 with AF, file size 989 kb also yields a properly colored slide
without any color distortion.

Any thoughts about the cause of coloration distortion? This is driving
me
crazy!








 




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