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Not all attachments can be rendered
Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect. maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what? How do I get rid of that print dialog box? -----Original Message----- But if you look at File Associations for HTML files, isn't there a printto verb already defined for your OS? Mine has one: rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "% 1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE, SAVE AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I have several of those files. I also have a word file that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am just using those pages as attachments. I don't know how I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I `print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print dialog", it is that window that lets you select which printer you want to print with. It pops up once for each attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all I have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo verb somewhere. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax" from the application that created the document. Any reason you can't do that? What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke it? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an Access application that produces a report and I would like to send a report and one or more attachments which may include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html or htm). I am sending this via email those customers that have an email address and via fax for thos customers that have a fax number. The attachments (or pages) change depending on the customer. When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html rendered when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever worked, but the print dialog pops up. So, since you seem to be the man that knows all about this topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to do to get this to work properly? -----Original Message----- Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and only for TIF files. The method you use will depend on the format of the attachments you want to send. That's why it's better to use whatever application your OS has set as the default application for opening and printing that particular file type. You need to be more specific about what you want to do and with what Outlook and fax software. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Interesting. I just came across a couple of other items you wrote to other people on this very subject. You get around. I just created the following key: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand] and set it to: rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" Not I can even send an fax with HTML format, which is exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog box comes up for every page. I will try your other instructions also. How can I get rid of the dialog box? -----Original Message----- Use Windows Explorer View File types to look at the file associations for the type of file you want to render. See what the default program is for the open verb for that file. Create a printto verb for that file type using the same application. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access, and programs like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep seeing references to PrintTo, like you just made, but I do not understand what to do next. -----Original Message----- Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can render graphic files for fax transmission. You need an application that can do so using its print routine. You may be able to specify a printto verb if you have an application available that has such a print routine. Do you? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0 ... I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? . . . . . |
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Not all attachments can be rendered
You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of
graphic files. The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print routine are TIF files. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect. maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what? How do I get rid of that print dialog box? -----Original Message----- But if you look at File Associations for HTML files, isn't there a printto verb already defined for your OS? Mine has one: rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "% 1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE, SAVE AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I have several of those files. I also have a word file that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am just using those pages as attachments. I don't know how I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I `print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print dialog", it is that window that lets you select which printer you want to print with. It pops up once for each attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all I have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo verb somewhere. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax" from the application that created the document. Any reason you can't do that? What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke it? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an Access application that produces a report and I would like to send a report and one or more attachments which may include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html or htm). I am sending this via email those customers that have an email address and via fax for thos customers that have a fax number. The attachments (or pages) change depending on the customer. When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html rendered when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever worked, but the print dialog pops up. So, since you seem to be the man that knows all about this topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to do to get this to work properly? -----Original Message----- Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and only for TIF files. The method you use will depend on the format of the attachments you want to send. That's why it's better to use whatever application your OS has set as the default application for opening and printing that particular file type. You need to be more specific about what you want to do and with what Outlook and fax software. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Interesting. I just came across a couple of other items you wrote to other people on this very subject. You get around. I just created the following key: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand] and set it to: rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" Not I can even send an fax with HTML format, which is exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog box comes up for every page. I will try your other instructions also. How can I get rid of the dialog box? -----Original Message----- Use Windows Explorer View File types to look at the file associations for the type of file you want to render. See what the default program is for the open verb for that file. Create a printto verb for that file type using the same application. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access, and programs like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep seeing references to PrintTo, like you just made, but I do not understand what to do next. -----Original Message----- Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can render graphic files for fax transmission. You need an application that can do so using its print routine. You may be able to specify a printto verb if you have an application available that has such a print routine. Do you? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0 ... I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? . . . . . |
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Not all attachments can be rendered
OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more
help should I'd start another thread? -----Original Message----- You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of graphic files. The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print routine are TIF files. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect. maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what? How do I get rid of that print dialog box? -----Original Message----- But if you look at File Associations for HTML files, isn't there a printto verb already defined for your OS? Mine has one: rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32 \mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "% 1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE, SAVE AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I have several of those files. I also have a word file that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am just using those pages as attachments. I don't know how I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I `print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print dialog", it is that window that lets you select which printer you want to print with. It pops up once for each attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all I have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo verb somewhere. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax" from the application that created the document. Any reason you can't do that? What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke it? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an Access application that produces a report and I would like to send a report and one or more attachments which may include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html or htm). I am sending this via email those customers that have an email address and via fax for thos customers that have a fax number. The attachments (or pages) change depending on the customer. When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html rendered when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever worked, but the print dialog pops up. So, since you seem to be the man that knows all about this topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to do to get this to work properly? -----Original Message----- Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and only for TIF files. The method you use will depend on the format of the attachments you want to send. That's why it's better to use whatever application your OS has set as the default application for opening and printing that particular file type. You need to be more specific about what you want to do and with what Outlook and fax software. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Interesting. I just came across a couple of other items you wrote to other people on this very subject. You get around. I just created the following key: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand] and set it to: rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" Not I can even send an fax with HTML format, which is exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog box comes up for every page. I will try your other instructions also. How can I get rid of the dialog box? -----Original Message----- Use Windows Explorer View File types to look at the file associations for the type of file you want to render. See what the default program is for the open verb for that file. Create a printto verb for that file type using the same application. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0 ... I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access, and programs like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep seeing references to PrintTo, like you just made, but I do not understand what to do next. -----Original Message----- Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can render graphic files for fax transmission. You need an application that can do so using its print routine. You may be able to specify a printto verb if you have an application available that has such a print routine. Do you? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0 ... I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? . . . . . . |
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Not all attachments can be rendered
Shouldn't matter. It's not very crowded in here.
You need to be aware, if you aren't already, that integration between Outlook and the Fax Service has been largely ignored in both of the last two development cycles. As a result it is not very robust and is a bit of a mess with little or no documentation. We're hoping it gets more attention in upcoming versions. I don't really see many users trying to fax complicated graphics from Outlook--scanned documents is about it. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more help should I'd start another thread? -----Original Message----- You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of graphic files. The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print routine are TIF files. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect. maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what? How do I get rid of that print dialog box? -----Original Message----- But if you look at File Associations for HTML files, isn't there a printto verb already defined for your OS? Mine has one: rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32 \mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "% 1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE, SAVE AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I have several of those files. I also have a word file that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am just using those pages as attachments. I don't know how I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I `print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print dialog", it is that window that lets you select which printer you want to print with. It pops up once for each attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all I have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo verb somewhere. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax" from the application that created the document. Any reason you can't do that? What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke it? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an Access application that produces a report and I would like to send a report and one or more attachments which may include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html or htm). I am sending this via email those customers that have an email address and via fax for thos customers that have a fax number. The attachments (or pages) change depending on the customer. When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html rendered when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever worked, but the print dialog pops up. So, since you seem to be the man that knows all about this topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to do to get this to work properly? -----Original Message----- Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and only for TIF files. The method you use will depend on the format of the attachments you want to send. That's why it's better to use whatever application your OS has set as the default application for opening and printing that particular file type. You need to be more specific about what you want to do and with what Outlook and fax software. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Interesting. I just came across a couple of other items you wrote to other people on this very subject. You get around. I just created the following key: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand] and set it to: rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" Not I can even send an fax with HTML format, which is exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog box comes up for every page. I will try your other instructions also. How can I get rid of the dialog box? -----Original Message----- Use Windows Explorer View File types to look at the file associations for the type of file you want to render. See what the default program is for the open verb for that file. Create a printto verb for that file type using the same application. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0 ... I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access, and programs like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep seeing references to PrintTo, like you just made, but I do not understand what to do next. -----Original Message----- Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can render graphic files for fax transmission. You need an application that can do so using its print routine. You may be able to specify a printto verb if you have an application available that has such a print routine. Do you? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0 ... I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? . . . . . . |
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It's the story of my life. Everytime I try something it
seems I get, "Funny, no one every tried that before". I finally have it working nicely. I'm able to send a PDF file with hyperlinks. In an email it works great since the receiver can use the links, and with email it looks good and the print dialog does not pop up. Perfect. Thanks for all the help. I'm sure well go back and forth again sometime soon. You DA man!!! -----Original Message----- Shouldn't matter. It's not very crowded in here. You need to be aware, if you aren't already, that integration between Outlook and the Fax Service has been largely ignored in both of the last two development cycles. As a result it is not very robust and is a bit of a mess with little or no documentation. We're hoping it gets more attention in upcoming versions. I don't really see many users trying to fax complicated graphics from Outlook--scanned documents is about it. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more help should I'd start another thread? -----Original Message----- You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of graphic files. The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print routine are TIF files. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect. maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what? How do I get rid of that print dialog box? -----Original Message----- But if you look at File Associations for HTML files, isn't there a printto verb already defined for your OS? Mine has one: rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32 \mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "% 1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE, SAVE AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I have several of those files. I also have a word file that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am just using those pages as attachments. I don't know how I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I `print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print dialog", it is that window that lets you select which printer you want to print with. It pops up once for each attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all I have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo verb somewhere. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax" from the application that created the document. Any reason you can't do that? What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke it? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an Access application that produces a report and I would like to send a report and one or more attachments which may include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html or htm). I am sending this via email those customers that have an email address and via fax for thos customers that have a fax number. The attachments (or pages) change depending on the customer. When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html rendered when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever worked, but the print dialog pops up. So, since you seem to be the man that knows all about this topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to do to get this to work properly? -----Original Message----- Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and only for TIF files. The method you use will depend on the format of the attachments you want to send. That's why it's better to use whatever application your OS has set as the default application for opening and printing that particular file type. You need to be more specific about what you want to do and with what Outlook and fax software. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f3ff01c43dda$69f27a00 ... Interesting. I just came across a couple of other items you wrote to other people on this very subject. You get around. I just created the following key: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand] and set it to: rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" Not I can even send an fax with HTML format, which is exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog box comes up for every page. I will try your other instructions also. How can I get rid of the dialog box? -----Original Message----- Use Windows Explorer View File types to look at the file associations for the type of file you want to render. See what the default program is for the open verb for that file. Create a printto verb for that file type using the same application. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0 ... I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access, and programs like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep seeing references to PrintTo, like you just made, but I do not understand what to do next. -----Original Message----- Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can render graphic files for fax transmission. You need an application that can do so using its print routine. You may be able to specify a printto verb if you have an application available that has such a print routine. Do you? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0 ... I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? . . . . . . . |
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Faxing graphics is a model of constipation. Most graphics get rendered as a
full, separate page in Windows XP Fax. So even a 5KB JPEG will take over 10 minutes to transmit. Not many people want to put up with that. For the record, here is what my testing has shown on faxing attachments from Outlook 2003 with Windows XP Fax: 1. Word and Excel files transmit without a hitch. Their printto verbs designate their native applications. 2. PPT files transmit without a hitch, but take forever because of the graphics. Their printto verb uses PowerPoint. 3. HTML files will invoke additional user interaction because they invoke the Print dialog. Their printto verb is: rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" 3. TIF files will only transmit after you define a printto verb for MSPaper.Document as: rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\system32\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_Pr intTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" 4. JPEG, GIF, and BMP files all transmit successfully without additional user intevrntion, but of course take forever for the reasons stated above. Their printto verb is also: rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\system32\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_Pr intTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... It's the story of my life. Everytime I try something it seems I get, "Funny, no one every tried that before". I finally have it working nicely. I'm able to send a PDF file with hyperlinks. In an email it works great since the receiver can use the links, and with email it looks good and the print dialog does not pop up. Perfect. Thanks for all the help. I'm sure well go back and forth again sometime soon. You DA man!!! -----Original Message----- Shouldn't matter. It's not very crowded in here. You need to be aware, if you aren't already, that integration between Outlook and the Fax Service has been largely ignored in both of the last two development cycles. As a result it is not very robust and is a bit of a mess with little or no documentation. We're hoping it gets more attention in upcoming versions. I don't really see many users trying to fax complicated graphics from Outlook--scanned documents is about it. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more help should I'd start another thread? -----Original Message----- You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of graphic files. The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print routine are TIF files. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect. maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what? How do I get rid of that print dialog box? -----Original Message----- But if you look at File Associations for HTML files, isn't there a printto verb already defined for your OS? Mine has one: rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32 \mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "% 1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE, SAVE AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I have several of those files. I also have a word file that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am just using those pages as attachments. I don't know how I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I `print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print dialog", it is that window that lets you select which printer you want to print with. It pops up once for each attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all I have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo verb somewhere. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax" from the application that created the document. Any reason you can't do that? What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke it? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an Access application that produces a report and I would like to send a report and one or more attachments which may include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html or htm). I am sending this via email those customers that have an email address and via fax for thos customers that have a fax number. The attachments (or pages) change depending on the customer. When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html rendered when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever worked, but the print dialog pops up. So, since you seem to be the man that knows all about this topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to do to get this to work properly? -----Original Message----- Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and only for TIF files. The method you use will depend on the format of the attachments you want to send. That's why it's better to use whatever application your OS has set as the default application for opening and printing that particular file type. You need to be more specific about what you want to do and with what Outlook and fax software. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f3ff01c43dda$69f27a00 ... Interesting. I just came across a couple of other items you wrote to other people on this very subject. You get around. I just created the following key: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand] and set it to: rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" Not I can even send an fax with HTML format, which is exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog box comes up for every page. I will try your other instructions also. How can I get rid of the dialog box? -----Original Message----- Use Windows Explorer View File types to look at the file associations for the type of file you want to render. See what the default program is for the open verb for that file. Create a printto verb for that file type using the same application. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0 ... I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access, and programs like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep seeing references to PrintTo, like you just made, but I do not understand what to do next. -----Original Message----- Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can render graphic files for fax transmission. You need an application that can do so using its print routine. You may be able to specify a printto verb if you have an application available that has such a print routine. Do you? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0 ... I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? . . . . . . . |
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Thanks for the additional info. The files DO take a
while, but since I'm just stacking them up in the fax queue I don't care right now. Take care. -----Original Message----- Faxing graphics is a model of constipation. Most graphics get rendered as a full, separate page in Windows XP Fax. So even a 5KB JPEG will take over 10 minutes to transmit. Not many people want to put up with that. For the record, here is what my testing has shown on faxing attachments from Outlook 2003 with Windows XP Fax: 1. Word and Excel files transmit without a hitch. Their printto verbs designate their native applications. 2. PPT files transmit without a hitch, but take forever because of the graphics. Their printto verb uses PowerPoint. 3. HTML files will invoke additional user interaction because they invoke the Print dialog. Their printto verb is: rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\System32 \mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" 3. TIF files will only transmit after you define a printto verb for MSPaper.Document as: rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" 4. JPEG, GIF, and BMP files all transmit successfully without additional user intevrntion, but of course take forever for the reasons stated above. Their printto verb is also: rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... It's the story of my life. Everytime I try something it seems I get, "Funny, no one every tried that before". I finally have it working nicely. I'm able to send a PDF file with hyperlinks. In an email it works great since the receiver can use the links, and with email it looks good and the print dialog does not pop up. Perfect. Thanks for all the help. I'm sure well go back and forth again sometime soon. You DA man!!! -----Original Message----- Shouldn't matter. It's not very crowded in here. You need to be aware, if you aren't already, that integration between Outlook and the Fax Service has been largely ignored in both of the last two development cycles. As a result it is not very robust and is a bit of a mess with little or no documentation. We're hoping it gets more attention in upcoming versions. I don't really see many users trying to fax complicated graphics from Outlook--scanned documents is about it. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more help should I'd start another thread? -----Original Message----- You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of graphic files. The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print routine are TIF files. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect. maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what? How do I get rid of that print dialog box? -----Original Message----- But if you look at File Associations for HTML files, isn't there a printto verb already defined for your OS? Mine has one: rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32 \mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "% 1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE, SAVE AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I have several of those files. I also have a word file that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am just using those pages as attachments. I don't know how I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I `print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print dialog", it is that window that lets you select which printer you want to print with. It pops up once for each attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all I have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo verb somewhere. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax" from the application that created the document. Any reason you can't do that? What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke it? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f5eb01c43e12$272b2950 ... Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an Access application that produces a report and I would like to send a report and one or more attachments which may include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html or htm). I am sending this via email those customers that have an email address and via fax for thos customers that have a fax number. The attachments (or pages) change depending on the customer. When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html rendered when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever worked, but the print dialog pops up. So, since you seem to be the man that knows all about this topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to do to get this to work properly? -----Original Message----- Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and only for TIF files. The method you use will depend on the format of the attachments you want to send. That's why it's better to use whatever application your OS has set as the default application for opening and printing that particular file type. You need to be more specific about what you want to do and with what Outlook and fax software. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f3ff01c43dda$69f27a00 ... Interesting. I just came across a couple of other items you wrote to other people on this very subject. You get around. I just created the following key: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand] and set it to: rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" Not I can even send an fax with HTML format, which is exactly what I want to do. But, the dialog box comes up for every page. I will try your other instructions also. How can I get rid of the dialog box? -----Original Message----- Use Windows Explorer View File types to look at the file associations for the type of file you want to render. See what the default program is for the open verb for that file. Create a printto verb for that file type using the same application. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0 ... I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access, and programs like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep seeing references to PrintTo, like you just made, but I do not understand what to do next. -----Original Message----- Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can render graphic files for fax transmission. You need an application that can do so using its print routine. You may be able to specify a printto verb if you have an application available that has such a print routine. Do you? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0 ... I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? . . . . . . . . |
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Printing HTML files has a bug because of which the Print Dialog pops-up. All
other image files will go through without the print dialog popping up. You will just see a "Printing" dialog coming, which will go away by itself. -- Manoj K Jain[MSFT] Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Faxing This posting isprovided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no rights. Please do not send mail directly to this aloas. This alias is for newsgroup purposes only. "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message ... You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of graphic files. The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print routine are TIF files. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect. maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what? How do I get rid of that print dialog box? -----Original Message----- But if you look at File Associations for HTML files, isn't there a printto verb already defined for your OS? Mine has one: rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "% 1" "%2" "%3" "%4" -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE, SAVE AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I have several of those files. I also have a word file that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am just using those pages as attachments. I don't know how I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I `print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print dialog", it is that window that lets you select which printer you want to print with. It pops up once for each attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all I have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo verb somewhere. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax" from the application that created the document. Any reason you can't do that? What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke it? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an Access application that produces a report and I would like to send a report and one or more attachments which may include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html or htm). I am sending this via email those customers that have an email address and via fax for thos customers that have a fax number. The attachments (or pages) change depending on the customer. When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html rendered when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever worked, but the print dialog pops up. So, since you seem to be the man that knows all about this topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to do to get this to work properly? -----Original Message----- Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and only for TIF files. The method you use will depend on the format of the attachments you want to send. That's why it's better to use whatever application your OS has set as the default application for opening and printing that particular file type. You need to be more specific about what you want to do and with what Outlook and fax software. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... Interesting. I just came across a couple of other items you wrote to other people on this very subject. You get around. I just created the following key: [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand] and set it to: rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32 \shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" Not I can even send an fax with HTML format, which is exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog box comes up for every page. I will try your other instructions also. How can I get rid of the dialog box? -----Original Message----- Use Windows Explorer View File types to look at the file associations for the type of file you want to render. See what the default program is for the open verb for that file. Create a printto verb for that file type using the same application. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access, and programs like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep seeing references to PrintTo, like you just made, but I do not understand what to do next. -----Original Message----- Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can render graphic files for fax transmission. You need an application that can do so using its print routine. You may be able to specify a printto verb if you have an application available that has such a print routine. Do you? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Clifford Zivi" wrote in message news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0 ... I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? . . . . . |
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Besides JPEG, TIFF, bitmap, what other formats are accepted by Microsoft Office???
-- Richard (703) 418-4731 "Clifford Zivi" wrote: I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook. I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in order to be able to send these types of attachments? |
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Clifford,
I know it's been a while since you posted this thread, but I am trying to print html files and pdf files using rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4" But have run into the same problem with the print dialog popping up. In this thread you said that you managed to get it working. I would be grateful if you could give me some pointers on how to surpress the dialog box Many thanks in advance Julian Quote:
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