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  #11  
Old May 21st, 2004, 02:46 PM
Clifford Zivi
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not all attachments can be rendered

Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect.
maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go
to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file
that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get
the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T
BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's
the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what?
How do I get rid of that print dialog box?
-----Original Message-----
But if you look at File Associations for HTML files,

isn't there a printto
verb already defined for your OS?
Mine has one:
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%

1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to
Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE,

SAVE
AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I
have several of those files. I also have a word file
that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am
just using those pages as attachments. I don't know

how
I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I
`print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file
does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print
dialog", it is that window that lets you select which
printer you want to print with. It pops up once for

each
attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all

I
have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting
this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo

verb
somewhere. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax"

from the application
that created the document. Any reason you can't do

that?
What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke

it?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an

Access
application that produces a report and I would like

to
send a report and one or more attachments which may
include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html

or
htm). I am sending this via email those customers

that
have an email address and via fax for thos customers

that
have a fax number. The attachments (or pages)

change
depending on the customer.

When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html

rendered
when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever
worked, but the print dialog pops up.

So, since you seem to be the man that knows all

about
this
topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to

do to
get this to work properly?
-----Original Message-----
Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and

only
for
TIF files. The
method you use will depend on the format of the
attachments you want to
send. That's why it's better to use whatever

application
your OS has set as
the default application for opening and printing

that
particular file type.

You need to be more specific about what you want

to do
and with what Outlook
and fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
Interesting. I just came across a couple of

other
items
you wrote to other people on this very subject.

You get
around. I just created the following key:



[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand]
and set it to:

rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

Not I can even send an fax with HTML format,

which
is
exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog

box
comes up for every page. I will try your other
instructions also. How can I get rid of the

print
dialog
box?
-----Original Message-----
Use Windows Explorer View File types to look

at the
file associations
for the type of file you want to render. See

what
the
default program is for
the open verb for that file. Create a printto

verb
for
that file type using
the same application.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access,

and
programs
like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep

seeing
references to PrintTo, like you just made,

but I
do
not
understand what to do next.
-----Original Message-----
Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can

render
graphic
files for fax
transmission. You need an application that

can
do so
using its print
routine.
You may be able to specify a printto verb if

you
have
an
application
available that has such a print routine. Do

you?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0

...
I am using Outlook automation to send faxes

via
Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either a .jpg

or .html
attachments but I get the error `Not all
attachments
can
be rendered`. I have my email format sent

to
send
in
Rich Text Format and it works fine until I

try an
attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing
something
about needing to define a "printto verb"

if I
want
to
send other formats. Can you tell me what I

have
to
do
in
order to be able to send these types of
attachments?


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.



.

  #12  
Old May 21st, 2004, 06:39 PM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not all attachments can be rendered

You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of
graphic files.
The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print
routine are TIF files.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi" wrote in message
...
Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect.
maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go
to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file
that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get
the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T
BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's
the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what?
How do I get rid of that print dialog box?
-----Original Message-----
But if you look at File Associations for HTML files,

isn't there a printto
verb already defined for your OS?
Mine has one:
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%

1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to
Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE,

SAVE
AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I
have several of those files. I also have a word file
that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am
just using those pages as attachments. I don't know

how
I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I
`print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file
does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print
dialog", it is that window that lets you select which
printer you want to print with. It pops up once for

each
attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all

I
have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting
this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo

verb
somewhere. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax"
from the application
that created the document. Any reason you can't do

that?
What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke

it?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"
wrote in message
...
Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an

Access
application that produces a report and I would like

to
send a report and one or more attachments which may
include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html

or
htm). I am sending this via email those customers

that
have an email address and via fax for thos customers
that
have a fax number. The attachments (or pages)

change
depending on the customer.

When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html
rendered
when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever
worked, but the print dialog pops up.

So, since you seem to be the man that knows all

about
this
topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to
do to
get this to work properly?
-----Original Message-----
Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and

only
for
TIF files. The
method you use will depend on the format of the
attachments you want to
send. That's why it's better to use whatever
application
your OS has set as
the default application for opening and printing

that
particular file type.

You need to be more specific about what you want

to do
and with what Outlook
and fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
Interesting. I just came across a couple of

other
items
you wrote to other people on this very subject.
You get
around. I just created the following key:



[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand]
and set it to:

rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

Not I can even send an fax with HTML format,

which
is
exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog
box
comes up for every page. I will try your other
instructions also. How can I get rid of the

print
dialog
box?
-----Original Message-----
Use Windows Explorer View File types to look
at the
file associations
for the type of file you want to render. See

what
the
default program is for
the open verb for that file. Create a printto

verb
for
that file type using
the same application.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access,

and
programs
like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep
seeing
references to PrintTo, like you just made,

but I
do
not
understand what to do next.
-----Original Message-----
Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can

render
graphic
files for fax
transmission. You need an application that

can
do so
using its print
routine.
You may be able to specify a printto verb if

you
have
an
application
available that has such a print routine. Do

you?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0

...
I am using Outlook automation to send faxes
via
Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either a .jpg
or .html
attachments but I get the error `Not all
attachments
can
be rendered`. I have my email format sent

to
send
in
Rich Text Format and it works fine until I
try an
attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing
something
about needing to define a "printto verb"

if I
want
to
send other formats. Can you tell me what I
have
to
do
in
order to be able to send these types of
attachments?


.



.



.



.



.



  #13  
Old May 21st, 2004, 07:00 PM
Clifford Zivi
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not all attachments can be rendered

OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more
help should I'd start another thread?
-----Original Message-----
You can't. It's that very print routine that is required

for rendering of
graphic files.
The only graphic files I've been able to attach without

invoking the print
routine are TIF files.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no

effect.
maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I

go
to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file
that I saved from my website, and send the email. I

get
the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get

the 'CAN'T
BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's
the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now

what?
How do I get rid of that print dialog box?
-----Original Message-----
But if you look at File Associations for HTML files,

isn't there a printto
verb already defined for your OS?
Mine has one:
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32

\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%
1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to
Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE,

SAVE
AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html

file. I
have several of those files. I also have a word

file
that I could probably convert to html also. Then I

am
just using those pages as attachments. I don't know

how
I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I
`print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn

file
does that help me at all? Secondly, when I

say "print
dialog", it is that window that lets you select

which
printer you want to print with. It pops up once for

each
attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and

all
I
have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to

getting
this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo

verb
somewhere. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
The only sure way to do this is to use "print to

fax"
from the application
that created the document. Any reason you can't do

that?
What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke

it?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an

Access
application that produces a report and I would

like
to
send a report and one or more attachments which

may
include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page

(html
or
htm). I am sending this via email those

customers
that
have an email address and via fax for thos

customers
that
have a fax number. The attachments (or pages)

change
depending on the customer.

When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html
rendered
when sending a fax. That's the first time that

ever
worked, but the print dialog pops up.

So, since you seem to be the man that knows all

about
this
topic, the question is... What the heck do I

have to
do to
get this to work properly?
-----Original Message-----
Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and

only
for
TIF files. The
method you use will depend on the format of the
attachments you want to
send. That's why it's better to use whatever
application
your OS has set as
the default application for opening and printing

that
particular file type.

You need to be more specific about what you want

to do
and with what Outlook
and fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
Interesting. I just came across a couple of

other
items
you wrote to other people on this very

subject.
You get
around. I just created the following key:




[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand]
and set it to:

rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

Not I can even send an fax with HTML format,

which
is
exactly what I want to do. But, the print

dialog
box
comes up for every page. I will try your

other
instructions also. How can I get rid of the

print
dialog
box?
-----Original Message-----
Use Windows Explorer View File types to

look
at the
file associations
for the type of file you want to render. See

what
the
default program is for
the open verb for that file. Create a printto

verb
for
that file type using
the same application.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0

...
I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access,

and
programs
like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep
seeing
references to PrintTo, like you just made,

but I
do
not
understand what to do next.
-----Original Message-----
Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can

render
graphic
files for fax
transmission. You need an application that

can
do so
using its print
routine.
You may be able to specify a printto verb

if
you
have
an
application
available that has such a print routine.

Do
you?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0

...
I am using Outlook automation to send

faxes
via
Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either a .jpg
or .html
attachments but I get the error `Not all
attachments
can
be rendered`. I have my email format

sent
to
send
in
Rich Text Format and it works fine

until I
try an
attachment other than .rtf. I keep

seeing
something
about needing to define a "printto verb"

if I
want
to
send other formats. Can you tell me

what I
have
to
do
in
order to be able to send these types of
attachments?


.



.



.



.



.



.

  #14  
Old May 21st, 2004, 07:07 PM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not all attachments can be rendered

Shouldn't matter. It's not very crowded in here.
You need to be aware, if you aren't already, that integration between
Outlook and the Fax Service has been largely ignored in both of the last two
development cycles. As a result it is not very robust and is a bit of a mess
with little or no documentation. We're hoping it gets more attention in
upcoming versions.
I don't really see many users trying to fax complicated graphics from
Outlook--scanned documents is about it. --
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi" wrote in message
...
OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more
help should I'd start another thread?
-----Original Message-----
You can't. It's that very print routine that is required

for rendering of
graphic files.
The only graphic files I've been able to attach without

invoking the print
routine are TIF files.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no

effect.
maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I

go
to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file
that I saved from my website, and send the email. I

get
the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get

the 'CAN'T
BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's
the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now

what?
How do I get rid of that print dialog box?
-----Original Message-----
But if you look at File Associations for HTML files,
isn't there a printto
verb already defined for your OS?
Mine has one:
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32

\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%
1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"
wrote in message
...
I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to
Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE,
SAVE
AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html

file. I
have several of those files. I also have a word

file
that I could probably convert to html also. Then I

am
just using those pages as attachments. I don't know
how
I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I
`print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn

file
does that help me at all? Secondly, when I

say "print
dialog", it is that window that lets you select

which
printer you want to print with. It pops up once for
each
attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and

all
I
have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to

getting
this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo
verb
somewhere. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
The only sure way to do this is to use "print to

fax"
from the application
that created the document. Any reason you can't do
that?
What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke
it?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an
Access
application that produces a report and I would

like
to
send a report and one or more attachments which

may
include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page

(html
or
htm). I am sending this via email those

customers
that
have an email address and via fax for thos

customers
that
have a fax number. The attachments (or pages)
change
depending on the customer.

When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html
rendered
when sending a fax. That's the first time that

ever
worked, but the print dialog pops up.

So, since you seem to be the man that knows all
about
this
topic, the question is... What the heck do I

have to
do to
get this to work properly?
-----Original Message-----
Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and
only
for
TIF files. The
method you use will depend on the format of the
attachments you want to
send. That's why it's better to use whatever
application
your OS has set as
the default application for opening and printing
that
particular file type.

You need to be more specific about what you want
to do
and with what Outlook
and fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
Interesting. I just came across a couple of
other
items
you wrote to other people on this very

subject.
You get
around. I just created the following key:




[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand]
and set it to:

rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

Not I can even send an fax with HTML format,
which
is
exactly what I want to do. But, the print

dialog
box
comes up for every page. I will try your

other
instructions also. How can I get rid of the
print
dialog
box?
-----Original Message-----
Use Windows Explorer View File types to

look
at the
file associations
for the type of file you want to render. See
what
the
default program is for
the open verb for that file. Create a printto
verb
for
that file type using
the same application.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0

...
I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access,
and
programs
like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep
seeing
references to PrintTo, like you just made,
but I
do
not
understand what to do next.
-----Original Message-----
Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can
render
graphic
files for fax
transmission. You need an application that
can
do so
using its print
routine.
You may be able to specify a printto verb

if
you
have
an
application
available that has such a print routine.

Do
you?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0
...
I am using Outlook automation to send

faxes
via
Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either a .jpg
or .html
attachments but I get the error `Not all
attachments
can
be rendered`. I have my email format

sent
to
send
in
Rich Text Format and it works fine

until I
try an
attachment other than .rtf. I keep

seeing
something
about needing to define a "printto verb"
if I
want
to
send other formats. Can you tell me

what I
have
to
do
in
order to be able to send these types of
attachments?


.



.



.



.



.



.



  #15  
Old May 21st, 2004, 10:14 PM
Clifford Zivi
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not all attachments can be rendered

It's the story of my life. Everytime I try something it
seems I get, "Funny, no one every tried that before". I
finally have it working nicely. I'm able to send a PDF
file with hyperlinks. In an email it works great since
the receiver can use the links, and with email it looks
good and the print dialog does not pop up. Perfect.
Thanks for all the help. I'm sure well go back and forth
again sometime soon. You DA man!!!
-----Original Message-----
Shouldn't matter. It's not very crowded in here.
You need to be aware, if you aren't already, that

integration between
Outlook and the Fax Service has been largely ignored in

both of the last two
development cycles. As a result it is not very robust

and is a bit of a mess
with little or no documentation. We're hoping it gets

more attention in
upcoming versions.
I don't really see many users trying to fax complicated

graphics from
Outlook--scanned documents is about it. --
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more
help should I'd start another thread?
-----Original Message-----
You can't. It's that very print routine that is

required
for rendering of
graphic files.
The only graphic files I've been able to attach

without
invoking the print
routine are TIF files.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I

just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no

effect.
maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway,

I
go
to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM

file
that I saved from my website, and send the email. I

get
the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get

the 'CAN'T
BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine.

It's
the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now

what?
How do I get rid of that print dialog box?
-----Original Message-----
But if you look at File Associations for HTML

files,
isn't there a printto
verb already defined for your OS?
Mine has one:
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32

\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%
1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
I am sending web pages as attachments. So I

went to
Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a

FILE,
SAVE
AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html

file. I
have several of those files. I also have a word

file
that I could probably convert to html also.

Then I
am
just using those pages as attachments. I don't

know
how
I could use "print to fax" in that situation.

If I
`print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn

file
does that help me at all? Secondly, when I

say "print
dialog", it is that window that lets you select

which
printer you want to print with. It pops up once

for
each
attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited

and
all
I
have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to

getting
this to work. I probably just need a better

PrintTo
verb
somewhere. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
The only sure way to do this is to use "print to

fax"
from the application
that created the document. Any reason you can't

do
that?
What print dialog do you mean and what steps

invoke
it?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an
Access
application that produces a report and I would

like
to
send a report and one or more attachments

which
may
include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page

(html
or
htm). I am sending this via email those

customers
that
have an email address and via fax for thos

customers
that
have a fax number. The attachments (or pages)
change
depending on the customer.

When I added the mspaper.document stuff the

html
rendered
when sending a fax. That's the first time

that
ever
worked, but the print dialog pops up.

So, since you seem to be the man that knows

all
about
this
topic, the question is... What the heck do I

have to
do to
get this to work properly?
-----Original Message-----
Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003

and
only
for
TIF files. The
method you use will depend on the format of

the
attachments you want to
send. That's why it's better to use whatever
application
your OS has set as
the default application for opening and

printing
that
particular file type.

You need to be more specific about what you

want
to do
and with what Outlook
and fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f3ff01c43dda$69f27a00

...
Interesting. I just came across a couple

of
other
items
you wrote to other people on this very

subject.
You get
around. I just created the following key:





[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand]
and set it to:

rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

Not I can even send an fax with HTML

format,
which
is
exactly what I want to do. But, the print

dialog
box
comes up for every page. I will try your

other
instructions also. How can I get rid of

the
print
dialog
box?
-----Original Message-----
Use Windows Explorer View File types

to
look
at the
file associations
for the type of file you want to render.

See
what
the
default program is for
the open verb for that file. Create a

printto
verb
for
that file type using
the same application.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0

...
I'm not sure what you mean. I have

Access,
and
programs
like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I

keep
seeing
references to PrintTo, like you just

made,
but I
do
not
understand what to do next.
-----Original Message-----
Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can
render
graphic
files for fax
transmission. You need an application

that
can
do so
using its print
routine.
You may be able to specify a printto

verb
if
you
have
an
application
available that has such a print

routine.
Do
you?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0
...
I am using Outlook automation to send

faxes
via
Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either

a .jpg
or .html
attachments but I get the error `Not

all
attachments
can
be rendered`. I have my email format

sent
to
send
in
Rich Text Format and it works fine

until I
try an
attachment other than .rtf. I keep

seeing
something
about needing to define a "printto

verb"
if I
want
to
send other formats. Can you tell me

what I
have
to
do
in
order to be able to send these types

of
attachments?


.



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.

  #16  
Old May 21st, 2004, 11:42 PM
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not all attachments can be rendered

Faxing graphics is a model of constipation. Most graphics get rendered as a
full, separate page in Windows XP Fax. So even a 5KB JPEG will take over 10
minutes to transmit. Not many people want to put up with that.

For the record, here is what my testing has shown on faxing attachments from
Outlook 2003 with Windows XP Fax:
1. Word and Excel files transmit without a hitch. Their printto verbs
designate their native applications.
2. PPT files transmit without a hitch, but take forever because of the
graphics. Their printto verb uses PowerPoint.
3. HTML files will invoke additional user interaction because they invoke
the Print dialog. Their printto verb is:
rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%1" "%2" "%3"
"%4"

3. TIF files will only transmit after you define a printto verb for
MSPaper.Document as:
rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\system32\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_Pr intTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

4. JPEG, GIF, and BMP files all transmit successfully without additional
user intevrntion, but of course take forever for the reasons stated above.
Their printto verb is also:

rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\system32\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_Pr intTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"


--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi" wrote in message
...
It's the story of my life. Everytime I try something it
seems I get, "Funny, no one every tried that before". I
finally have it working nicely. I'm able to send a PDF
file with hyperlinks. In an email it works great since
the receiver can use the links, and with email it looks
good and the print dialog does not pop up. Perfect.
Thanks for all the help. I'm sure well go back and forth
again sometime soon. You DA man!!!
-----Original Message-----
Shouldn't matter. It's not very crowded in here.
You need to be aware, if you aren't already, that

integration between
Outlook and the Fax Service has been largely ignored in

both of the last two
development cycles. As a result it is not very robust

and is a bit of a mess
with little or no documentation. We're hoping it gets

more attention in
upcoming versions.
I don't really see many users trying to fax complicated

graphics from
Outlook--scanned documents is about it. --
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need more
help should I'd start another thread?
-----Original Message-----
You can't. It's that very print routine that is

required
for rendering of
graphic files.
The only graphic files I've been able to attach

without
invoking the print
routine are TIF files.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"
wrote in message
...
Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I

just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no
effect.
maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway,

I
go
to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM

file
that I saved from my website, and send the email. I
get
the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get
the 'CAN'T
BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine.

It's
the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now
what?
How do I get rid of that print dialog box?
-----Original Message-----
But if you look at File Associations for HTML

files,
isn't there a printto
verb already defined for your OS?
Mine has one:
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32
\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%
1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
I am sending web pages as attachments. So I

went to
Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a

FILE,
SAVE
AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html
file. I
have several of those files. I also have a word
file
that I could probably convert to html also.

Then I
am
just using those pages as attachments. I don't

know
how
I could use "print to fax" in that situation.

If I
`print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn
file
does that help me at all? Secondly, when I
say "print
dialog", it is that window that lets you select
which
printer you want to print with. It pops up once

for
each
attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited

and
all
I
have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to
getting
this to work. I probably just need a better

PrintTo
verb
somewhere. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
The only sure way to do this is to use "print to
fax"
from the application
that created the document. Any reason you can't

do
that?
What print dialog do you mean and what steps

invoke
it?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an
Access
application that produces a report and I would
like
to
send a report and one or more attachments

which
may
include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page
(html
or
htm). I am sending this via email those
customers
that
have an email address and via fax for thos
customers
that
have a fax number. The attachments (or pages)
change
depending on the customer.

When I added the mspaper.document stuff the

html
rendered
when sending a fax. That's the first time

that
ever
worked, but the print dialog pops up.

So, since you seem to be the man that knows

all
about
this
topic, the question is... What the heck do I
have to
do to
get this to work properly?
-----Original Message-----
Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003

and
only
for
TIF files. The
method you use will depend on the format of

the
attachments you want to
send. That's why it's better to use whatever
application
your OS has set as
the default application for opening and

printing
that
particular file type.

You need to be more specific about what you

want
to do
and with what Outlook
and fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f3ff01c43dda$69f27a00

...
Interesting. I just came across a couple

of
other
items
you wrote to other people on this very
subject.
You get
around. I just created the following key:





[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand]
and set it to:

rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

Not I can even send an fax with HTML

format,
which
is
exactly what I want to do. But, the print
dialog
box
comes up for every page. I will try your
other
instructions also. How can I get rid of

the
print
dialog
box?
-----Original Message-----
Use Windows Explorer View File types

to
look
at the
file associations
for the type of file you want to render.

See
what
the
default program is for
the open verb for that file. Create a

printto
verb
for
that file type using
the same application.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0
...
I'm not sure what you mean. I have

Access,
and
programs
like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I

keep
seeing
references to PrintTo, like you just

made,
but I
do
not
understand what to do next.
-----Original Message-----
Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can
render
graphic
files for fax
transmission. You need an application

that
can
do so
using its print
routine.
You may be able to specify a printto

verb
if
you
have
an
application
available that has such a print

routine.
Do
you?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0
...
I am using Outlook automation to send
faxes
via
Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either

a .jpg
or .html
attachments but I get the error `Not

all
attachments
can
be rendered`. I have my email format
sent
to
send
in
Rich Text Format and it works fine
until I
try an
attachment other than .rtf. I keep
seeing
something
about needing to define a "printto

verb"
if I
want
to
send other formats. Can you tell me
what I
have
to
do
in
order to be able to send these types

of
attachments?


.



.



.



.



.



.



.



  #17  
Old May 22nd, 2004, 03:04 AM
Clifford Zivi
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not all attachments can be rendered

Thanks for the additional info. The files DO take a
while, but since I'm just stacking them up in the fax
queue I don't care right now. Take care.
-----Original Message-----
Faxing graphics is a model of constipation. Most

graphics get rendered as a
full, separate page in Windows XP Fax. So even a 5KB

JPEG will take over 10
minutes to transmit. Not many people want to put up with

that.

For the record, here is what my testing has shown on

faxing attachments from
Outlook 2003 with Windows XP Fax:
1. Word and Excel files transmit without a hitch. Their

printto verbs
designate their native applications.
2. PPT files transmit without a hitch, but take forever

because of the
graphics. Their printto verb uses PowerPoint.
3. HTML files will invoke additional user interaction

because they invoke
the Print dialog. Their printto verb is:
rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\System32

\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%1" "%2" "%3"
"%4"

3. TIF files will only transmit after you define a

printto verb for
MSPaper.Document as:
rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\system32

\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

4. JPEG, GIF, and BMP files all transmit successfully

without additional
user intevrntion, but of course take forever for the

reasons stated above.
Their printto verb is also:

rundll32.exe Drive:\WINDOWS\system32

\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"


--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
It's the story of my life. Everytime I try something

it
seems I get, "Funny, no one every tried that before".

I
finally have it working nicely. I'm able to send a PDF
file with hyperlinks. In an email it works great since
the receiver can use the links, and with email it looks
good and the print dialog does not pop up. Perfect.
Thanks for all the help. I'm sure well go back and

forth
again sometime soon. You DA man!!!
-----Original Message-----
Shouldn't matter. It's not very crowded in here.
You need to be aware, if you aren't already, that

integration between
Outlook and the Fax Service has been largely ignored

in
both of the last two
development cycles. As a result it is not very robust

and is a bit of a mess
with little or no documentation. We're hoping it gets

more attention in
upcoming versions.
I don't really see many users trying to fax

complicated
graphics from
Outlook--scanned documents is about it. --
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
OK. I'll play with this for a while. If I need

more
help should I'd start another thread?
-----Original Message-----
You can't. It's that very print routine that is

required
for rendering of
graphic files.
The only graphic files I've been able to attach

without
invoking the print
routine are TIF files.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I

just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no
effect.
maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.)

Anyway,
I
go
to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM

file
that I saved from my website, and send the

email. I
get
the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get
the 'CAN'T
BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine.

It's
the same if my email format is RTF or html. So

now
what?
How do I get rid of that print dialog box?
-----Original Message-----
But if you look at File Associations for HTML

files,
isn't there a printto
verb already defined for your OS?
Mine has one:
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32
\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%
1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
I am sending web pages as attachments. So I

went to
Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a

FILE,
SAVE
AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html
file. I
have several of those files. I also have a

word
file
that I could probably convert to html also.

Then I
am
just using those pages as attachments. I

don't
know
how
I could use "print to fax" in that situation.

If I
`print to file' for the shared fax and get

a .prn
file
does that help me at all? Secondly, when I
say "print
dialog", it is that window that lets you

select
which
printer you want to print with. It pops up

once
for
each
attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited

and
all
I
have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to
getting
this to work. I probably just need a better

PrintTo
verb
somewhere. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
The only sure way to do this is to

use "print to
fax"
from the application
that created the document. Any reason you

can't
do
that?
What print dialog do you mean and what steps

invoke
it?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f5eb01c43e12$272b2950

...
Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I

have an
Access
application that produces a report and I

would
like
to
send a report and one or more attachments

which
may
include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web

page
(html
or
htm). I am sending this via email those
customers
that
have an email address and via fax for thos
customers
that
have a fax number. The attachments (or

pages)
change
depending on the customer.

When I added the mspaper.document stuff the

html
rendered
when sending a fax. That's the first time

that
ever
worked, but the print dialog pops up.

So, since you seem to be the man that knows

all
about
this
topic, the question is... What the heck do

I
have to
do to
get this to work properly?
-----Original Message-----
Those instructions are only for Outlook

2003
and
only
for
TIF files. The
method you use will depend on the format

of
the
attachments you want to
send. That's why it's better to use

whatever
application
your OS has set as
the default application for opening and

printing
that
particular file type.

You need to be more specific about what

you
want
to do
and with what Outlook
and fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f3ff01c43dda$69f27a00

...
Interesting. I just came across a

couple
of
other
items
you wrote to other people on this very
subject.
You get
around. I just created the following

key:






[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand]
and set it to:

rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

Not I can even send an fax with HTML

format,
which
is
exactly what I want to do. But, the

print
dialog
box
comes up for every page. I will try

your
other
instructions also. How can I get rid of

the
print
dialog
box?
-----Original Message-----
Use Windows Explorer View File

types
to
look
at the
file associations
for the type of file you want to

render.
See
what
the
default program is for
the open verb for that file. Create a

printto
verb
for
that file type using
the same application.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f50f01c43dcb$91a176f0
...
I'm not sure what you mean. I have

Access,
and
programs
like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc.

I
keep
seeing
references to PrintTo, like you just

made,
but I
do
not
understand what to do next.
-----Original Message-----
Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service

can
render
graphic
files for fax
transmission. You need an

application
that
can
do so
using its print
routine.
You may be able to specify a printto

verb
if
you
have
an
application
available that has such a print

routine.
Do
you?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0
...
I am using Outlook automation to

send
faxes
via
Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either

a .jpg
or .html
attachments but I get the error

`Not
all
attachments
can
be rendered`. I have my email

format
sent
to
send
in
Rich Text Format and it works fine
until I
try an
attachment other than .rtf. I

keep
seeing
something
about needing to define a "printto

verb"
if I
want
to
send other formats. Can you tell

me
what I
have
to
do
in
order to be able to send these

types
of
attachments?


.



.



.



.



.



.



.



.

  #18  
Old June 10th, 2004, 10:26 AM
Manoj K Jain
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Not all attachments can be rendered

Printing HTML files has a bug because of which the Print Dialog pops-up. All
other image files will go through without the print dialog popping up. You
will just see a "Printing" dialog coming, which will go away by itself.

--
Manoj K Jain[MSFT]
Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Faxing
This posting isprovided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no rights.
Please do not send mail directly to this aloas. This alias is for newsgroup
purposes only.
"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message
...
You can't. It's that very print routine that is required for rendering of
graphic files.
The only graphic files I've been able to attach without invoking the print
routine are TIF files.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi" wrote in message
...
Yes. It's there; mine is identical to yours. (I just
took out the reg entry for MSpaper and it had no effect.
maybe I'm nuts. I'd sware it did before.) Anyway, I go
to outlook, type in a [FAX:number], attach an HTM file
that I saved from my website, and send the email. I get
the print dialog box. If I hit cancel, I get the 'CAN'T
BE RENDERED' error. If I hit OK, it sends fine. It's
the same if my email format is RTF or html. So now what?
How do I get rid of that print dialog box?
-----Original Message-----
But if you look at File Associations for HTML files,

isn't there a printto
verb already defined for your OS?
Mine has one:
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%

1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
I am sending web pages as attachments. So I went to
Internet Explorer, went to the web page, did a FILE,

SAVE
AS, HTML web page only. This creates an html file. I
have several of those files. I also have a word file
that I could probably convert to html also. Then I am
just using those pages as attachments. I don't know

how
I could use "print to fax" in that situation. If I
`print to file' for the shared fax and get a .prn file
does that help me at all? Secondly, when I say "print
dialog", it is that window that lets you select which
printer you want to print with. It pops up once for

each
attachment. The Shared fax is already hilited and all

I
have to do it click OK. So, I'm very close to getting
this to work. I probably just need a better PrintTo

verb
somewhere. Any ideas?
-----Original Message-----
The only sure way to do this is to use "print to fax"
from the application
that created the document. Any reason you can't do

that?
What print dialog do you mean and what steps invoke

it?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"
wrote in message
...
Ok. Here is what I'm trying to do. I have an

Access
application that produces a report and I would like

to
send a report and one or more attachments which may
include: A Word file (maybe rtf), a web page (html

or
htm). I am sending this via email those customers

that
have an email address and via fax for thos customers
that
have a fax number. The attachments (or pages)

change
depending on the customer.

When I added the mspaper.document stuff the html
rendered
when sending a fax. That's the first time that ever
worked, but the print dialog pops up.

So, since you seem to be the man that knows all

about
this
topic, the question is... What the heck do I have to
do to
get this to work properly?
-----Original Message-----
Those instructions are only for Outlook 2003 and

only
for
TIF files. The
method you use will depend on the format of the
attachments you want to
send. That's why it's better to use whatever
application
your OS has set as
the default application for opening and printing

that
particular file type.

You need to be more specific about what you want

to do
and with what Outlook
and fax software.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"


wrote in message
...
Interesting. I just came across a couple of

other
items
you wrote to other people on this very subject.
You get
around. I just created the following key:



[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\c ommand]
and set it to:

rundll32.exe DRIVE:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

Not I can even send an fax with HTML format,

which
is
exactly what I want to do. But, the print dialog
box
comes up for every page. I will try your other
instructions also. How can I get rid of the

print
dialog
box?
-----Original Message-----
Use Windows Explorer View File types to look
at the
file associations
for the type of file you want to render. See

what
the
default program is for
the open verb for that file. Create a printto

verb
for
that file type using
the same application.

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
...
I'm not sure what you mean. I have Access,

and
programs
like Paint, Adobe, Corel Draw, etc. I keep
seeing
references to PrintTo, like you just made,

but I
do
not
understand what to do next.
-----Original Message-----
Neither Outlook nor the Fax Service can

render
graphic
files for fax
transmission. You need an application that

can
do so
using its print
routine.
You may be able to specify a printto verb if

you
have
an
application
available that has such a print routine. Do

you?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Clifford Zivi"

wrote in message
news:f37d01c43db3$3a4160e0

...
I am using Outlook automation to send faxes
via
Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either a .jpg
or .html
attachments but I get the error `Not all
attachments
can
be rendered`. I have my email format sent

to
send
in
Rich Text Format and it works fine until I
try an
attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing
something
about needing to define a "printto verb"

if I
want
to
send other formats. Can you tell me what I
have
to
do
in
order to be able to send these types of
attachments?


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  #19  
Old June 10th, 2004, 02:12 PM
Richard
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Default Not all attachments can be rendered

Besides JPEG, TIFF, bitmap, what other formats are accepted by Microsoft Office???

--
Richard
(703) 418-4731


"Clifford Zivi" wrote:

I am using Outlook automation to send faxes via Outlook.
I need to send faxes with either a .jpg or .html
attachments but I get the error `Not all attachments can
be rendered`. I have my email format sent to send in
Rich Text Format and it works fine until I try an
attachment other than .rtf. I keep seeing something
about needing to define a "printto verb" if I want to
send other formats. Can you tell me what I have to do in
order to be able to send these types of attachments?

  #20  
Old March 3rd, 2005, 11:42 AM
Julian Clamp Julian Clamp is offline
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Posts: 1
Default

Clifford,

I know it's been a while since you posted this thread, but I am trying to print html files and pdf files using
rundll32.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\mshtml.dll,PrintHTML "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
But have run into the same problem with the print dialog popping up. In this thread you said that you managed to get it working. I would be grateful if you could give me some pointers on how to surpress the dialog box

Many thanks in advance

Julian

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clifford Zivi
It's the story of my life. Everytime I try something it
seems I get, "Funny, no one every tried that before". I
finally have it working nicely. I'm able to send a PDF
file with hyperlinks. In an email it works great since
the receiver can use the links, and with email it looks
good and the print dialog does not pop up. Perfect.
Thanks for all the help. I'm sure well go back and forth
again sometime soon. You DA man!!!
 




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