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Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:

You made life a lot harder than it needed to be. You could have used
file, open, outlook data file and opened the pst, not imported it. Then drag
the DL to the new pst. You also could have copied the wab to the new machine
and hooked OE to it - then tried the import. It's much easier than
installing outlook and moving the pst from machine to machine.


But WHY is that easier? I mean, a PST produced by Outlook 2003 should be
easy to integrate with another instance of Outlook 2003. Surely this isn't
rocket science? Please explain why the original import from OE wiped the OE
Address Book, informed me that 0 items had been imported and then placed the
imported items in a folder other than the one it assured me they would be
sent to - Contacts. I'm all ears.

zaphod

Importing from OE does nothing to the original data source. You would have
to provide detailed steps as to what you did for us to understand why you
are the single exception to that.
As I said, importing has never preserved OE groups or Outlook DL's.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"zaphod" wrote in message
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Diane Poremsky [MVP] wrote:

You made life a lot harder than it needed to be. You could have used
file, open, outlook data file and opened the pst, not imported it. Then
drag
the DL to the new pst. You also could have copied the wab to the new
machine
and hooked OE to it - then tried the import. It's much easier than
installing outlook and moving the pst from machine to machine.


But WHY is that easier? I mean, a PST produced by Outlook 2003 should be
easy to integrate with another instance of Outlook 2003. Surely this isn't
rocket science? Please explain why the original import from OE wiped the
OE
Address Book, informed me that 0 items had been imported and then placed
the
imported items in a folder other than the one it assured me they would be
sent to - Contacts. I'm all ears.

zaphod

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
Importing from OE does nothing to the original data source. You would have
to provide detailed steps as to what you did for us to understand why you
are the single exception to that.
As I said, importing has never preserved OE groups or Outlook DL's.

If that's the case why did Outlook successfully convert all the OE groups
into DLs despite telling me it hadn't converted anything and putting them in
the wrong place? When I finally located them they were all there in Outlook
but gone from OE.

zaphod

Please post consistent, factual information. First you post that importing
from OE "wiped out your OE Address Book."
That is not possible. If it happened, you would be the first.
Now you are posting a different question. Clarify it.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"zaphod" wrote in message
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
Importing from OE does nothing to the original data source. You would
have
to provide detailed steps as to what you did for us to understand why you
are the single exception to that.
As I said, importing has never preserved OE groups or Outlook DL's.

If that's the case why did Outlook successfully convert all the OE groups
into DLs despite telling me it hadn't converted anything and putting them
in
the wrong place? When I finally located them they were all there in
Outlook
but gone from OE.

zaphod

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:

Please post consistent, factual information. First you post that importing
from OE "wiped out your OE Address Book."
That is not possible. If it happened, you would be the first.
Now you are posting a different question. Clarify it.

Please elaborate as to what is supposed to be inconsistent about my post:

INITIAL POST
When I imported from
OE initially not only did Outlook put the items in a folder I did NOT select
but it wiped out the OE Addresss Book! Bravo Microsoft!

LATEST POST
If that's the case why did Outlook successfully convert all the OE groups
into DLs despite telling me it hadn't converted anything and putting them in
the wrong place? When I finally located them they were all there in Outlook
but gone from OE.


If you want me to split hairs/spell it out I swear on whoever's life that,
with my very own eyes, I didst open the Outlook Express Address Book after
ye olde import from within Outlook 2003 and, lo the contents of the Address
Book were indeed empty. Not one address remained therein and not a single
address was there to be found.

Wake up Microsoft and stop passing the buck. This is YOUR problem!

No one else has ever reported that importing OE's Address Book into Outlook
eliminated the WAB.
You did not post what you did, so we cannot tell what you did wrong.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"zaphod" wrote in message
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:

Please post consistent, factual information. First you post that
importing
from OE "wiped out your OE Address Book."
That is not possible. If it happened, you would be the first.
Now you are posting a different question. Clarify it.

Please elaborate as to what is supposed to be inconsistent about my post:

INITIAL POST
When I imported from
OE initially not only did Outlook put the items in a folder I did NOT
select
but it wiped out the OE Addresss Book! Bravo Microsoft!

LATEST POST
If that's the case why did Outlook successfully convert all the OE groups
into DLs despite telling me it hadn't converted anything and putting them
in
the wrong place? When I finally located them they were all there in
Outlook
but gone from OE.


If you want me to split hairs/spell it out I swear on whoever's life that,
with my very own eyes, I didst open the Outlook Express Address Book after
ye olde import from within Outlook 2003 and, lo the contents of the
Address
Book were indeed empty. Not one address remained therein and not a single
address was there to be found.

Wake up Microsoft and stop passing the buck. This is YOUR problem!

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
No one else has ever reported that importing OE's Address Book into Outlook
eliminated the WAB.
You did not post what you did, so we cannot tell what you did wrong.

If you had actually bothered to read my posts within this thread you would
find that I have already spelled out what I did in great detail. Try reading
my post dated 13/9/05, 01.30 in response to Brian Tillman.

zaphod

I read your posts. Nothing was clear. You changed issues in mid stream.
Nor have I ever seen anyone reproduce this behavior.
My cache has been cleared. I'll look over you posts again when I have time
to download them again.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"zaphod" wrote in message
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
No one else has ever reported that importing OE's Address Book into
Outlook
eliminated the WAB.
You did not post what you did, so we cannot tell what you did wrong.

If you had actually bothered to read my posts within this thread you would
find that I have already spelled out what I did in great detail. Try
reading
my post dated 13/9/05, 01.30 in response to Brian Tillman.

zaphod

OK. I found that part where you described the import from OE. You used a
very convoluted process that is still not clear to me. I can't tell where
things went wrong from your post, but I can tell you no one else has ever
wiped out OE's WAB by importing into Outlook. To work properly, importing of
addresses from OE should only be done from the Main Identity's default
Contacts Folder into Outlook's default Contacts Folder. Also, groups from OE
might appear as DL's in Outlook, but they don't work and must be recreated
from scratch using Outlook's Contacts.
Importing and exporting from Outlook have always been problematic. Once you
have data in a PST file, it's always best to avoid importing and exporting
from one installation of Outlook to another.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"zaphod" wrote in message
...
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:
No one else has ever reported that importing OE's Address Book into
Outlook
eliminated the WAB.
You did not post what you did, so we cannot tell what you did wrong.

If you had actually bothered to read my posts within this thread you would
find that I have already spelled out what I did in great detail. Try
reading
my post dated 13/9/05, 01.30 in response to Brian Tillman.

zaphod

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] wrote:

Importing and exporting from Outlook have always been problematic. Once you
have data in a PST file, it's always best to avoid importing and exporting
from one installation of Outlook to another.

Then one can only conclude that Outlook is a pile of crap. Are you proud to
be working for a convicted monopoly that can't fix a simple problem like
this after 4 incarnations of Office? I'll advise my clients use anything
other than this colossal waste of time in future. Tell Bill Gates that some
of us don't have quite as much money as he does and that to us time is money.

zaphod