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  #1  
Old June 23rd, 2004, 07:55 PM
Roberto
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Default Message Rules

I expected the following rule to place messages with any
these words in the subject line into the Inbox:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the Subject line contains 'lockergnome' or 'print
edition' or 'langalist'
Stop processing more rules

It is not doing that, even though it is the first rule in
my list of rules. It is putting them in another box called
Questionable Items which I have created.
Do you have an answer as to why this is happening.
Thanks,
Roberto


  #2  
Old June 23rd, 2004, 08:07 PM
Bruce Hagen
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Default Message Rules

If you want them in the Inbox, then don't make a rule and that's
where they will go. If you noticed when creating the rule, when you
click on Specified Folder, and then clicked on Inbox, the OK button
was grayed out so the rule never took affect.

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
~IB-CA~



"Roberto" wrote in message
...
I expected the following rule to place messages with any
these words in the subject line into the Inbox:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the Subject line contains 'lockergnome' or 'print
edition' or 'langalist'
Stop processing more rules

It is not doing that, even though it is the first rule in
my list of rules. It is putting them in another box called
Questionable Items which I have created.
Do you have an answer as to why this is happening.
Thanks,
Roberto




  #3  
Old June 23rd, 2004, 08:39 PM
Roberto
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Default Message Rules


-----Original Message-----
If you want them in the Inbox, then don't make a rule and

that's
where they will go. If you noticed when creating the

rule, when you
click on Specified Folder, and then clicked on Inbox, the

OK button
was grayed out so the rule never took affect.

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
--
Bruce Hagen
~IB-CA~



"Roberto" wrote in

message
...
I expected the following rule to place messages with any
these words in the subject line into the Inbox:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the Subject line contains 'lockergnome' or 'print
edition' or 'langalist'
Stop processing more rules

It is not doing that, even though it is the first rule

in
my list of rules. It is putting them in another box

called
Questionable Items which I have created.
Do you have an answer as to why this is happening.
Thanks,
Roberto




.
Other rules which I have would put it in the Questionable

Box if I didn't first get it into the Inbox before later
rules acted on it. I didn't specify a specific folder for
the mail to go to because I understood that all mail went
to the Inbox unless told otherwise. It looks like part of
the problem was mine because it turns out my rules were
not in the order which I thought they were.
  #4  
Old June 23rd, 2004, 11:29 PM
Gerry Cornell
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Posts: n/a
Default Message Rules

Roberto

What was your first rule supposed to achieve? You should be specifying =
"an action" and "Stop processing more Rules". An action might be "Move =
it to Langa list folder". You need to create a sub-folder of "Local =
Folder" in which to place your Langa list message.=20

BTW do not create sub-folders of the Inbox!


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any=20
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


=20
"Roberto" wrote in message =
...
=20
-----Original Message-----
If you want them in the Inbox, then don't make a rule and=20

that's
where they will go. If you noticed when creating the=20

rule, when you
click on Specified Folder, and then clicked on Inbox, the=20

OK button
was grayed out so the rule never took affect.

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/faqs/why.htm#rules
--=20
Bruce Hagen
~IB-CA~



"Roberto" wrote in=20

message
...
I expected the following rule to place messages with any
these words in the subject line into the Inbox:

Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the Subject line contains 'lockergnome' or 'print
edition' or 'langalist'
Stop processing more rules

It is not doing that, even though it is the first rule=20

in
my list of rules. It is putting them in another box=20

called
Questionable Items which I have created.
Do you have an answer as to why this is happening.
Thanks,
Roberto




.
Other rules which I have would put it in the Questionable=20

Box if I didn't first get it into the Inbox before later=20
rules acted on it. I didn't specify a specific folder for=20
the mail to go to because I understood that all mail went=20
to the Inbox unless told otherwise. It looks like part of=20
the problem was mine because it turns out my rules were=20
not in the order which I thought they were.

  #5  
Old June 26th, 2004, 02:50 AM
Gerry Cornell
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Default Message Rules

Roberto

You can use either. If you use Lockergnome or any part of it, except =
that if you used gnome you would get fredgnome and other gnome variants.



~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any=20
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


"Roberto" wrote in message =
...

=20
.
Gerry,
You are right, I do open OE in the Inbox. I'm going to=20
take your suggestion and create another box and maybe=20

call=20
it "Legitimate" or something to indicate valid mail and=20
direct the mail to it that I don't want to go to=20
the "Undesirable Box" because of words in it's body.
For some unknown reason, your replys to my questions=20
appear on my screen in a long horizontal line instead of=20
scrolling down the screen so when I print it I only get=20
about the first 100 characters of the message.
Thanks for your help,
Roberto
Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

.
Gerry,

Forget the scrolling problem, it has corrected itself.
Thanks,
Roberto

.
Gerry,

If I'm writing a rule which is looking at the "From Line",=20
do I use the words as they appear on the screen in=20
the "From" column of the email for instance: Lockergnome,=20
or do I use the complete email address:=20

Thanks again,
Roberto

  #6  
Old June 26th, 2004, 12:31 PM
Gerry Cornell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Message Rules

Roberto

Many users in the Microsoft newsgroups prefer top posting. Where a =
message is bottom posted, unless the person reading the message is =
expecting bottom posting, they can assume wrongly that the message was =
sent in error. This is especially likely if the previous unsnipped =
portions of previous messages are lengthy.=20

I did not answer this question earlier.

Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

The answer to your question is no. That web site offers advice on how to =
write more effective news messages i.e. what to include etc. Some of the =
points are worth remembering.

I think you are using the new web based service, which is new to all of =
us. You need to Sign In using a Net Passport. You need to have Windows =
Messenger ( you may be able to use an alternative Messenger service -not =
sure?) running to do this. You then need to find the message and using =
"Outlook Express Message Rules" as the search criteria scroll down to =
get to the thread. Open the thread by clicking on the + sign and select =
the message you wish to comment on. There are Yes and No buttons giving =
you the option to answer the question "Was this post helpful to you".

There is a lot more in the Help (Help contains 21 pages of explanations) =
tiny button top right on this page:
http://communities2.microsoft.com/co...us/default.as=
px

The section beginning "Why do I need to sign in to Communities?" is the =
most relevant to your question.

Many presently contributing to the newsgroup prefer using Outlook =
Express as their news reader. It is more flexible and easier to use than =
either of the two web based newsreaders. However, for a casual user of =
newsgroups, this latest version of the web based newsreader offers an =
email service telling you of replies to questions posted by you. You =
read your replies by clicking on a link in the email. This latest =
innovation is intended to solve the difficult problem of finding your =
original message and any answers, which so troubled users of the earlier =
web based news reader.


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any=20
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


=20
"Roberto" wrote in message =
...
Gerry,

You are right, I do open OE in the Inbox. I'm going to=20
take your suggestion and create another box and maybe call=20
it "Legitimate" or something to indicate valid mail and=20
direct the mail to it that I don't want to go to=20
the "Undesirable Box" because of words in it's body.
For some unknown reason, your replys to my questions=20
appear on my screen in a long horizontal line instead of=20
scrolling down the screen so when I print it I only get=20
about the first 100 characters of the message.
Thanks for your help,
Roberto
Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

  #7  
Old June 26th, 2004, 10:11 PM
Roberto
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Message Rules

Gerry,
I'm taking entirely too much of your time with my simple
questions, but I dont't know what is meant by top or
bottom posting. I don't know if I'm using Web Based or
Outlook Express access to this newsgroup. Your last two
replies are acting-up again, in that, the text is going
across the screen in a long line instead of scrolling down
the screen, like a wrap-around feature is not working.
This prevents me from printing it out. Any clues?
Thanks again,
Roberto
-----Original Message-----
Roberto

Many users in the Microsoft newsgroups prefer top

posting. Where a message is bottom posted, unless the
person reading the message is expecting bottom posting,
they can assume wrongly that the message was sent in
error. This is especially likely if the previous unsnipped
portions of previous messages are lengthy.

I did not answer this question earlier.

Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

The answer to your question is no. That web site offers

advice on how to write more effective news messages i.e.
what to include etc. Some of the points are worth
remembering.

I think you are using the new web based service, which is

new to all of us. You need to Sign In using a Net
Passport. You need to have Windows Messenger ( you may be
able to use an alternative Messenger service -not sure?)
running to do this. You then need to find the message and
using "Outlook Express Message Rules" as the search
criteria scroll down to get to the thread. Open the
thread by clicking on the + sign and select the message
you wish to comment on. There are Yes and No buttons
giving you the option to answer the question "Was this
post helpful to you".

There is a lot more in the Help (Help contains 21 pages

of explanations) tiny button top right on this page:
http://communities2.microsoft.com/co...s/newsgroups/e

n-us/default.aspx

The section beginning "Why do I need to sign in to

Communities?" is the most relevant to your question.

Many presently contributing to the newsgroup prefer using

Outlook Express as their news reader. It is more flexible
and easier to use than either of the two web based
newsreaders. However, for a casual user of newsgroups,
this latest version of the web based newsreader offers an
email service telling you of replies to questions posted
by you. You read your replies by clicking on a link in the
email. This latest innovation is intended to solve the
difficult problem of finding your original message and any
answers, which so troubled users of the earlier web based
news reader.


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Roberto" wrote in

message ...
Gerry,

You are right, I do open OE in the Inbox. I'm going to
take your suggestion and create another box and maybe

call
it "Legitimate" or something to indicate valid mail and
direct the mail to it that I don't want to go to
the "Undesirable Box" because of words in it's body.
For some unknown reason, your replys to my questions
appear on my screen in a long horizontal line instead

of
scrolling down the screen so when I print it I only get
about the first 100 characters of the message.
Thanks for your help,
Roberto
Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

.

  #8  
Old June 27th, 2004, 02:17 AM
Gerry Cornell
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Posts: n/a
Default Message Rules

Roberto

Your last message and this message are top posted. Your previous messages
have been bottom posted i.e. you have the read the incoming message and
added your message at the end or bottom. Before Outlook Express assumed
market domination bottom posting was very popular. In some usenet newsgroups
you still encounter those who adhere to bottom posting and you can be
challenged if you top post or send HTML formatted messages.

From the header information relating to your messages you are accessing the
newsgroup using Internet Explorer. This is commonly described as web based
access. Using Outlook Express as a news reader enables me to read the header
information. It also tell me that you are using version 5.5 of Outlook
Express and there your operating system is earlier than Windows XP. Using
Internet Explorer you cannot read header information.

I was posting plain text messages using quoted printable. I have changed
quoted printable to none for this message. However, I am not sure why quoted
printable should affect you. It can for some non- Microsoft news readers but
I am surprised to hear it is affecting your ability to read my messages. Let
me know if you encounter any more problems. It could be a fault on your
system.


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




"Roberto" wrote in message
...
Gerry,
I'm taking entirely too much of your time with my simple
questions, but I dont't know what is meant by top or
bottom posting. I don't know if I'm using Web Based or
Outlook Express access to this newsgroup. Your last two
replies are acting-up again, in that, the text is going
across the screen in a long line instead of scrolling down
the screen, like a wrap-around feature is not working.
This prevents me from printing it out. Any clues?
Thanks again,
Roberto
-----Original Message-----
Roberto

Many users in the Microsoft newsgroups prefer top

posting. Where a message is bottom posted, unless the
person reading the message is expecting bottom posting,
they can assume wrongly that the message was sent in
error. This is especially likely if the previous unsnipped
portions of previous messages are lengthy.

I did not answer this question earlier.

Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

The answer to your question is no. That web site offers

advice on how to write more effective news messages i.e.
what to include etc. Some of the points are worth
remembering.

I think you are using the new web based service, which is

new to all of us. You need to Sign In using a Net
Passport. You need to have Windows Messenger ( you may be
able to use an alternative Messenger service -not sure?)
running to do this. You then need to find the message and
using "Outlook Express Message Rules" as the search
criteria scroll down to get to the thread. Open the
thread by clicking on the + sign and select the message
you wish to comment on. There are Yes and No buttons
giving you the option to answer the question "Was this
post helpful to you".

There is a lot more in the Help (Help contains 21 pages

of explanations) tiny button top right on this page:
http://communities2.microsoft.com/co...s/newsgroups/e

n-us/default.aspx

The section beginning "Why do I need to sign in to

Communities?" is the most relevant to your question.

Many presently contributing to the newsgroup prefer using

Outlook Express as their news reader. It is more flexible
and easier to use than either of the two web based
newsreaders. However, for a casual user of newsgroups,
this latest version of the web based newsreader offers an
email service telling you of replies to questions posted
by you. You read your replies by clicking on a link in the
email. This latest innovation is intended to solve the
difficult problem of finding your original message and any
answers, which so troubled users of the earlier web based
news reader.


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Roberto" wrote in

message ...
Gerry,
You are right, I do open OE in the Inbox. I'm going to
take your suggestion and create another box and maybe

call
it "Legitimate" or something to indicate valid mail and
direct the mail to it that I don't want to go to
the "Undesirable Box" because of words in it's body.
For some unknown reason, your replys to my questions
appear on my screen in a long horizontal line instead

of
scrolling down the screen so when I print it I only get
about the first 100 characters of the message.
Thanks for your help,
Roberto
Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

.


  #9  
Old June 29th, 2004, 01:26 AM
Roberto
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Message Rules

Gerry,
Your last message scrolled down the screen making it easy
to read and printable. I see what you mean by top and
bottom posting and can see where communicating can get
confusing if one switches back and forth between the two.
I noted that my replies are bottom posted if I use
the "tab" key to get to the message box to make my reply
so now I make it a point to use the mouse and click at the
top of the message box to enable top posting. Thanks for
filling me in on the two methods of accessing newsgroups
and that I am using web based access (Internet Explorer).
Thanks again,
Roberto

-----Original Message-----
Roberto

Your last message and this message are top posted. Your

previous messages
have been bottom posted i.e. you have the read the

incoming message and
added your message at the end or bottom. Before Outlook

Express assumed
market domination bottom posting was very popular. In

some usenet newsgroups
you still encounter those who adhere to bottom posting

and you can be
challenged if you top post or send HTML formatted

messages.

From the header information relating to your messages you

are accessing the
newsgroup using Internet Explorer. This is commonly

described as web based
access. Using Outlook Express as a news reader enables me

to read the header
information. It also tell me that you are using version

5.5 of Outlook
Express and there your operating system is earlier than

Windows XP. Using
Internet Explorer you cannot read header information.

I was posting plain text messages using quoted printable.

I have changed
quoted printable to none for this message. However, I am

not sure why quoted
printable should affect you. It can for some non-

Microsoft news readers but
I am surprised to hear it is affecting your ability to

read my messages. Let
me know if you encounter any more problems. It could be a

fault on your
system.


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




"Roberto" wrote in

message
...
Gerry,
I'm taking entirely too much of your time with my simple
questions, but I dont't know what is meant by top or
bottom posting. I don't know if I'm using Web Based or
Outlook Express access to this newsgroup. Your last two
replies are acting-up again, in that, the text is going
across the screen in a long line instead of scrolling

down
the screen, like a wrap-around feature is not working.
This prevents me from printing it out. Any clues?
Thanks again,
Roberto
-----Original Message-----
Roberto

Many users in the Microsoft newsgroups prefer top

posting. Where a message is bottom posted, unless the
person reading the message is expecting bottom posting,
they can assume wrongly that the message was sent in
error. This is especially likely if the previous

unsnipped
portions of previous messages are lengthy.

I did not answer this question earlier.

Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

The answer to your question is no. That web site offers

advice on how to write more effective news messages i.e.
what to include etc. Some of the points are worth
remembering.

I think you are using the new web based service, which

is
new to all of us. You need to Sign In using a Net
Passport. You need to have Windows Messenger ( you may

be
able to use an alternative Messenger service -not sure?)
running to do this. You then need to find the message

and
using "Outlook Express Message Rules" as the search
criteria scroll down to get to the thread. Open the
thread by clicking on the + sign and select the message
you wish to comment on. There are Yes and No buttons
giving you the option to answer the question "Was this
post helpful to you".

There is a lot more in the Help (Help contains 21 pages

of explanations) tiny button top right on this page:

http://communities2.microsoft.com/co...s/newsgroups/e
n-us/default.aspx

The section beginning "Why do I need to sign in to

Communities?" is the most relevant to your question.

Many presently contributing to the newsgroup prefer

using
Outlook Express as their news reader. It is more

flexible
and easier to use than either of the two web based
newsreaders. However, for a casual user of newsgroups,
this latest version of the web based newsreader offers

an
email service telling you of replies to questions posted
by you. You read your replies by clicking on a link in

the
email. This latest innovation is intended to solve the
difficult problem of finding your original message and

any
answers, which so troubled users of the earlier web

based
news reader.


~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



"Roberto" wrote

in
message ...
Gerry,
You are right, I do open OE in the Inbox. I'm going

to
take your suggestion and create another box and maybe

call
it "Legitimate" or something to indicate valid mail

and
direct the mail to it that I don't want to go to
the "Undesirable Box" because of words in it's body.
For some unknown reason, your replys to my questions
appear on my screen in a long horizontal line instead

of
scrolling down the screen so when I print it I only

get
about the first 100 characters of the message.
Thanks for your help,
Roberto
Do I go to this web site to comment on solutions:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

.


.

  #10  
Old June 29th, 2004, 01:51 AM
Gerry Cornell
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Message Rules

Robert

Two keyboard shortcuts. Ctrl+Home takes you to the beginning of a message
and Ctrl+End takes you to the end.


--

~~~~~~


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please tell the newsgroup how any
suggested solution worked for you.
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Roberto" wrote in message
...
Gerry,
Your last message scrolled down the screen making it easy
to read and printable. I see what you mean by top and
bottom posting and can see where communicating can get
confusing if one switches back and forth between the two.
I noted that my replies are bottom posted if I use
the "tab" key to get to the message box to make my reply
so now I make it a point to use the mouse and click at the
top of the message box to enable top posting. Thanks for
filling me in on the two methods of accessing newsgroups
and that I am using web based access (Internet Explorer).
Thanks again,
Roberto


 




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