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  #51  
Old August 14th, 2005, 07:53 PM
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
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No, not at all. It's what happens when you've matured enough to know what's
right in your heart.

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Don Guillett" wrote in message
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Perhaps it is due to a "guilty conscience"

--
Don Guillett
SalesAid Software

"Tushar Mehta" wrote in message
om...
In article ,

says...
I just don't answer questions about how to break into files or where to

find
bogus product IDs. There's no way to tell if the OP is telling the
truth

or
not when they say it's their file/program. If someone else chooses to
respond, that's their choice. I choose not to take the chance of aiding

and
abetting.


That would be just fine. But, that is not what you did in this
discussion. You, and others, are (a) presuming guilt and (b) preaching
about the same.

I *do* stay away from such requests. In those instances where I
respond, it is along the lines of "search google...do ensure you are OK
with IP/copyright laws..."

What I find interesting is that if one starts with the presumption of
guilt, how does one help anyone on the 'Net? Just about *any* request
could be from a student violating her/his code of conduct and asking
for help with h/w.

Any attempt to access a file could be an attempt to hack into the file
("I need to get data from a file on the network server" or "I have to
access data in a file I cannot open").

Heck, even a request to add a watermark to a document could be an
illegal act. Maybe the document was written by someone else and this
person wants to steal it and put her/his name on it!

How does one stop the paranoia if we start with the presumption of the
guilt just because we don't know the person?

--
Regards,

Tushar Mehta
www.tushar-mehta.com
Excel, PowerPoint, and VBA add-ins, tutorials
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  #52  
Old August 14th, 2005, 08:38 PM
KL
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Well, some would say "maturity" is about undrestanding how little one really
knows or the meaning of "Judge not, that ye be not judged..."

Regards,
KL


"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
No, not at all. It's what happens when you've matured enough to know
what's right in your heart.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Don Guillett" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is due to a "guilty conscience"

--
Don Guillett
SalesAid Software

"Tushar Mehta" wrote in message
om...
In article ,

says...
I just don't answer questions about how to break into files or where
to

find
bogus product IDs. There's no way to tell if the OP is telling the
truth

or
not when they say it's their file/program. If someone else chooses to
respond, that's their choice. I choose not to take the chance of
aiding

and
abetting.


That would be just fine. But, that is not what you did in this
discussion. You, and others, are (a) presuming guilt and (b) preaching
about the same.

I *do* stay away from such requests. In those instances where I
respond, it is along the lines of "search google...do ensure you are OK
with IP/copyright laws..."

What I find interesting is that if one starts with the presumption of
guilt, how does one help anyone on the 'Net? Just about *any* request
could be from a student violating her/his code of conduct and asking
for help with h/w.

Any attempt to access a file could be an attempt to hack into the file
("I need to get data from a file on the network server" or "I have to
access data in a file I cannot open").

Heck, even a request to add a watermark to a document could be an
illegal act. Maybe the document was written by someone else and this
person wants to steal it and put her/his name on it!

How does one stop the paranoia if we start with the presumption of the
guilt just because we don't know the person?

--
Regards,

Tushar Mehta
www.tushar-mehta.com
Excel, PowerPoint, and VBA add-ins, tutorials
Custom MS Office productivity solutions







  #53  
Old August 14th, 2005, 08:53 PM
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
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I'm the first to admit that I don't know everything. But It's taken me a
very long time to get to this level of understanding myself and knowing
better than to do things that make me uncomfortable. Because I *don't* know
the truth about the situation of a person who needs a crack (but seems to
know the term) I prefer to stay out of it.

Perhaps when you're my age, you'll appreciate that.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"KL" wrote in message
...
Well, some would say "maturity" is about undrestanding how little one
really knows or the meaning of "Judge not, that ye be not judged..."

Regards,
KL


"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" wrote in message
...
No, not at all. It's what happens when you've matured enough to know
what's right in your heart.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Don Guillett" wrote in message
...
Perhaps it is due to a "guilty conscience"

--
Don Guillett
SalesAid Software

"Tushar Mehta" wrote in
message
om...
In article ,

says...
I just don't answer questions about how to break into files or where
to
find
bogus product IDs. There's no way to tell if the OP is telling the
truth
or
not when they say it's their file/program. If someone else chooses to
respond, that's their choice. I choose not to take the chance of
aiding
and
abetting.


That would be just fine. But, that is not what you did in this
discussion. You, and others, are (a) presuming guilt and (b) preaching
about the same.

I *do* stay away from such requests. In those instances where I
respond, it is along the lines of "search google...do ensure you are OK
with IP/copyright laws..."

What I find interesting is that if one starts with the presumption of
guilt, how does one help anyone on the 'Net? Just about *any* request
could be from a student violating her/his code of conduct and asking
for help with h/w.

Any attempt to access a file could be an attempt to hack into the file
("I need to get data from a file on the network server" or "I have to
access data in a file I cannot open").

Heck, even a request to add a watermark to a document could be an
illegal act. Maybe the document was written by someone else and this
person wants to steal it and put her/his name on it!

How does one stop the paranoia if we start with the presumption of the
guilt just because we don't know the person?

--
Regards,

Tushar Mehta
www.tushar-mehta.com
Excel, PowerPoint, and VBA add-ins, tutorials
Custom MS Office productivity solutions








  #54  
Old August 14th, 2005, 09:02 PM
KL
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Perhaps when you're my age, you'll appreciate that.

Well, who knows! Maybe I will... or maybe I will not have another chance to
be your age :-) How do you know mine?

Regards,
KL


  #55  
Old August 14th, 2005, 10:54 PM
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
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Do you remember when Telstar made the news? Satellite or song - take your
pick?

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"KL" wrote in message
...
Perhaps when you're my age, you'll appreciate that.


Well, who knows! Maybe I will... or maybe I will not have another chance
to be your age :-) How do you know mine?

Regards,
KL



  #56  
Old August 15th, 2005, 12:04 AM
JE McGimpsey
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In article ,
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" wrote:

I have my hands full with my own set of personal morals and ethics
without trying to impose them on others.


Yet you did so in your first post of this thread...

I'm confused.
  #57  
Old August 15th, 2005, 12:47 AM
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
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I never told anyone that they should or should not respond to the request
for a crack. I've only said that I am skeptical about anyone who wants one.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" wrote:

I have my hands full with my own set of personal morals and ethics
without trying to impose them on others.


Yet you did so in your first post of this thread...

I'm confused.



  #58  
Old August 15th, 2005, 01:27 AM
Lomax
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I have got to ask..

Eric,
Did you open the file?

Lomax
"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
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Take a look at

http://www.mcgimpsey.com/excel/fileandvbapwords.html

for a link to a less expensive solution.

In article ,
"Eric Fehlhaber" wrote:

Does anyone know of any software that can crack a password protected .xls
file for free? I found this one... http://www.elcomsoft.com/aopr.html I
don't think it's worth it for one document though.

Thanks

Eric



  #59  
Old August 15th, 2005, 03:52 AM
JE McGimpsey
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In article ,
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" wrote:

I never told anyone that they should or should not respond to the request
for a crack. I've only said that I am skeptical about anyone who wants one.


I was referring to your telling the OP

And since the file was protected in the first place, maybe you
shouldn't be trying to break into it.


It sounded to me like an attempt to impose your morals and ethics.



"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" wrote:

I have my hands full with my own set of personal morals and ethics
without trying to impose them on others.


Yet you did so in your first post of this thread...

I'm confused.

  #60  
Old August 15th, 2005, 04:48 AM
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]
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Nope, just making a suggestion. Imposing my morals would be "Don't do that
because ....." or "It's a sin to .....". I didn't do either - I just
suggested that maybe they shouldn't be trying to break into the file.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" wrote:

I never told anyone that they should or should not respond to the request
for a crack. I've only said that I am skeptical about anyone who wants
one.


I was referring to your telling the OP

And since the file was protected in the first place, maybe you
shouldn't be trying to break into it.


It sounded to me like an attempt to impose your morals and ethics.



"JE McGimpsey" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]" wrote:

I have my hands full with my own set of personal morals and ethics
without trying to impose them on others.

Yet you did so in your first post of this thread...

I'm confused.



 




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