Publisher 2007 Booklet Print Problem

I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS online. This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the edge of the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home printer. I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that for 1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully. I want to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or send a pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful advice.

Sounds like your margin settings are exceeding the printers allowable
minimums.

To see what your minimums margins are you can do the following:

Open Notepad and select File, Page Setup.
In the Margin boxes, set them all to zero then move the cursor from the last
margin box.
The settings will automatically change to your printers minimums.

I have a HP 1200 Business InkJet and my minimum bottom setting is .46";
sounds like your HP is the same.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
news
I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS online.
This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the edge of
the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home printer. I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that for
1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully. I want
to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or send a
pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful advice.

A workaround would be to save the booklet as a PDF. Microsoft has an add-in you
can download.
Download details 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS
https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Don Schmidt" Don red_1987 wrote in message
...
Sounds like your margin settings are exceeding the printers allowable
minimums.

To see what your minimums margins are you can do the following:

Open Notepad and select File, Page Setup.
In the Margin boxes, set them all to zero then move the cursor from the last
margin box.
The settings will automatically change to your printers minimums.

I have a HP 1200 Business InkJet and my minimum bottom setting is .46"; sounds
like your HP is the same.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
news
I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS online. This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the edge of the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home printer. I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that for 1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully. I want to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or send a pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful advice.

Don,
Thanks for your response. I did the Note pad check and have the following
results:

L - .25, R - .25, T - .07, B - .5

Which is interesting since the right margin seems set on .5 when I try to
print from Pub 07 not .25...wch I could live with. Also the left margin is
mutable and can be set to less than .25.

Thru experimentation I discovered:
- If I set the paper to A4 I can view the entire image albeit w/ a .5 right
margin
- If I set the paper to 8/5x11 I can't get the entire image to display
regardless of right margin setting
- I abandoned the booklet format and just created a doc w/ a single
landscape 8.5x11 sheet set w/ 0 margins. But problem persists, i.e., .5 "
fixed right margin.
- Even with a 8.5x11 format (margins = 0) my printable area is restricted to
L margin - .07, width - 10.43, top margin - .25, height - 8 per the Printer
Details tab. Why?

I wanted to create a simple 4 page doc w/ images that bled to the paper
edges in a basic 2 up print format. The client wants a final product in Pub
07 (?) for future editing, I guess; but I may have to create this in InDesign
if I can't get Publisher to cooperate.

ta,
jamowa


"Don Schmidt" wrote:

Sounds like your margin settings are exceeding the printers allowable
minimums.

To see what your minimums margins are you can do the following:

Open Notepad and select File, Page Setup.
In the Margin boxes, set them all to zero then move the cursor from the last
margin box.
The settings will automatically change to your printers minimums.

I have a HP 1200 Business InkJet and my minimum bottom setting is .46";
sounds like your HP is the same.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
news
I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS online.
This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the edge of
the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home printer. I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that for
1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully. I want
to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or send a
pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful advice.

Your printer will not print in the area outside of the margins. To do so,
you will need to acquire a printer that will print with less margins.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
...
Don,
Thanks for your response. I did the Note pad check and have the
following
results:

L - .25, R - .25, T - .07, B - .5

Which is interesting since the right margin seems set on .5 when I try to
print from Pub 07 not .25...wch I could live with. Also the left margin
is
mutable and can be set to less than .25.

Thru experimentation I discovered:
- If I set the paper to A4 I can view the entire image albeit w/ a .5
right
margin
- If I set the paper to 8/5x11 I can't get the entire image to display
regardless of right margin setting
- I abandoned the booklet format and just created a doc w/ a single
landscape 8.5x11 sheet set w/ 0 margins. But problem persists, i.e., .5 "
fixed right margin.
- Even with a 8.5x11 format (margins = 0) my printable area is restricted
to
L margin - .07, width - 10.43, top margin - .25, height - 8 per the
Printer
Details tab. Why?

I wanted to create a simple 4 page doc w/ images that bled to the paper
edges in a basic 2 up print format. The client wants a final product in
Pub
07 (?) for future editing, I guess; but I may have to create this in
InDesign
if I can't get Publisher to cooperate.

ta,
jamowa


"Don Schmidt" wrote:

Sounds like your margin settings are exceeding the printers allowable
minimums.

To see what your minimums margins are you can do the following:

Open Notepad and select File, Page Setup.
In the Margin boxes, set them all to zero then move the cursor from the
last
margin box.
The settings will automatically change to your printers minimums.

I have a HP 1200 Business InkJet and my minimum bottom setting is .46";
sounds like your HP is the same.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
news
I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS online.
This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the
master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the edge
of
the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home printer.
I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that for
1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully. I
want
to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or send a
pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or
cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful
advice.

Thanks, Mary, for your response. I have this Add-in installed. In fact I've
tried converting the doc to PDF & then printing. See my response to Don for
results of my other experiments.

I've tried many permutations with and without pdf format, but I can't get
the left & right margins to be the same.

Worst case, the client will have to trim the booklet after printing.
However, that will be impossible if I can't get the right and left margins to
be the same. I could live w/ .25" on each side but one side is always .5".

Very vexing.
jamowa

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

A workaround would be to save the booklet as a PDF. Microsoft has an add-in you
can download.
Download details 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS
https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...displaylang=en

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

"Don Schmidt" Don red_1987 wrote in message
...
Sounds like your margin settings are exceeding the printers allowable
minimums.

To see what your minimums margins are you can do the following:

Open Notepad and select File, Page Setup.
In the Margin boxes, set them all to zero then move the cursor from the last
margin box.
The settings will automatically change to your printers minimums.

I have a HP 1200 Business InkJet and my minimum bottom setting is .46"; sounds
like your HP is the same.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
news
I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS online. This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the edge of the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home printer. I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that for 1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully. I want to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or send a pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful advice.

Yes it would seem that is the case. Sigh. I just wish I could get the two
sides to have the same margins. I've set guides at .5 on both sides (since
the .25 printer margin isn't working) but after printing, the images don't
line when the page is folded. This is a problem when the printer trims the
sheet.

I've tried converting to pdf w/ same .5 margins but the output is still not
lining up. Surely, Pub 07 doesn't convert a file to pdf using the limitation
of the attached printer?

ta,
jamowa

"Don Schmidt" wrote:

Your printer will not print in the area outside of the margins. To do so,
you will need to acquire a printer that will print with less margins.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
...
Don,
Thanks for your response. I did the Note pad check and have the
following
results:

L - .25, R - .25, T - .07, B - .5

Which is interesting since the right margin seems set on .5 when I try to
print from Pub 07 not .25...wch I could live with. Also the left margin
is
mutable and can be set to less than .25.

Thru experimentation I discovered:
- If I set the paper to A4 I can view the entire image albeit w/ a .5
right
margin
- If I set the paper to 8/5x11 I can't get the entire image to display
regardless of right margin setting
- I abandoned the booklet format and just created a doc w/ a single
landscape 8.5x11 sheet set w/ 0 margins. But problem persists, i.e., .5 "
fixed right margin.
- Even with a 8.5x11 format (margins = 0) my printable area is restricted
to
L margin - .07, width - 10.43, top margin - .25, height - 8 per the
Printer
Details tab. Why?

I wanted to create a simple 4 page doc w/ images that bled to the paper
edges in a basic 2 up print format. The client wants a final product in
Pub
07 (?) for future editing, I guess; but I may have to create this in
InDesign
if I can't get Publisher to cooperate.

ta,
jamowa


"Don Schmidt" wrote:

Sounds like your margin settings are exceeding the printers allowable
minimums.

To see what your minimums margins are you can do the following:

Open Notepad and select File, Page Setup.
In the Margin boxes, set them all to zero then move the cursor from the
last
margin box.
The settings will automatically change to your printers minimums.

I have a HP 1200 Business InkJet and my minimum bottom setting is .46";
sounds like your HP is the same.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
news I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS online.
This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the
master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the edge
of
the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home printer.
I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that for
1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully. I
want
to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or send a
pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or
cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful
advice.

If you're gonna bleed you just make the page bigger...set up Custom page
size to allow for 1/8" (or whatever your printer wants) all around and bleed
out to that, but keep your content within normal page size.

Not sure about your margin problem.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression Web






"jamowa" wrote in message
news
Yes it would seem that is the case. Sigh. I just wish I could get the two
sides to have the same margins. I've set guides at .5 on both sides
(since
the .25 printer margin isn't working) but after printing, the images don't
line when the page is folded. This is a problem when the printer trims
the
sheet.

I've tried converting to pdf w/ same .5 margins but the output is still
not
lining up. Surely, Pub 07 doesn't convert a file to pdf using the
limitation
of the attached printer?

ta,
jamowa

"Don Schmidt" wrote:

Your printer will not print in the area outside of the margins. To do
so,
you will need to acquire a printer that will print with less margins.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
...
Don,
Thanks for your response. I did the Note pad check and have the
following
results:

L - .25, R - .25, T - .07, B - .5

Which is interesting since the right margin seems set on .5 when I try
to
print from Pub 07 not .25...wch I could live with. Also the left
margin
is
mutable and can be set to less than .25.

Thru experimentation I discovered:
- If I set the paper to A4 I can view the entire image albeit w/ a .5
right
margin
- If I set the paper to 8/5x11 I can't get the entire image to display
regardless of right margin setting
- I abandoned the booklet format and just created a doc w/ a single
landscape 8.5x11 sheet set w/ 0 margins. But problem persists, i.e.,
.5 "
fixed right margin.
- Even with a 8.5x11 format (margins = 0) my printable area is
restricted
to
L margin - .07, width - 10.43, top margin - .25, height - 8 per the
Printer
Details tab. Why?

I wanted to create a simple 4 page doc w/ images that bled to the paper
edges in a basic 2 up print format. The client wants a final product
in
Pub
07 (?) for future editing, I guess; but I may have to create this in
InDesign
if I can't get Publisher to cooperate.

ta,
jamowa


"Don Schmidt" wrote:

Sounds like your margin settings are exceeding the printers allowable
minimums.

To see what your minimums margins are you can do the following:

Open Notepad and select File, Page Setup.
In the Margin boxes, set them all to zero then move the cursor from
the
last
margin box.
The settings will automatically change to your printers minimums.

I have a HP 1200 Business InkJet and my minimum bottom setting is
.46";
sounds like your HP is the same.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
news I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS
online.
This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the
master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the
edge
of
the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home
printer.
I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that
for
1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully.
I
want
to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or
send a
pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or
cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful
advice.

I believe the reason the right margin is .5" is because it is the bottom of
the sheet of paper as it comes out of the printer; thus the bottom margin.


--
Don - Vancouver, USA
"May your shadow be found in happy places." - Native North American



"jamowa" wrote in message
news
Yes it would seem that is the case. Sigh. I just wish I could get the two
sides to have the same margins. I've set guides at .5 on both sides
(since
the .25 printer margin isn't working) but after printing, the images don't
line when the page is folded. This is a problem when the printer trims
the
sheet.

I've tried converting to pdf w/ same .5 margins but the output is still
not
lining up. Surely, Pub 07 doesn't convert a file to pdf using the
limitation
of the attached printer?

ta,
jamowa

"Don Schmidt" wrote:

Your printer will not print in the area outside of the margins. To do
so,
you will need to acquire a printer that will print with less margins.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
...
Don,
Thanks for your response. I did the Note pad check and have the
following
results:

L - .25, R - .25, T - .07, B - .5

Which is interesting since the right margin seems set on .5 when I try
to
print from Pub 07 not .25...wch I could live with. Also the left
margin
is
mutable and can be set to less than .25.

Thru experimentation I discovered:
- If I set the paper to A4 I can view the entire image albeit w/ a .5
right
margin
- If I set the paper to 8/5x11 I can't get the entire image to display
regardless of right margin setting
- I abandoned the booklet format and just created a doc w/ a single
landscape 8.5x11 sheet set w/ 0 margins. But problem persists, i.e.,
.5 "
fixed right margin.
- Even with a 8.5x11 format (margins = 0) my printable area is
restricted
to
L margin - .07, width - 10.43, top margin - .25, height - 8 per the
Printer
Details tab. Why?

I wanted to create a simple 4 page doc w/ images that bled to the paper
edges in a basic 2 up print format. The client wants a final product
in
Pub
07 (?) for future editing, I guess; but I may have to create this in
InDesign
if I can't get Publisher to cooperate.

ta,
jamowa


"Don Schmidt" wrote:

Sounds like your margin settings are exceeding the printers allowable
minimums.

To see what your minimums margins are you can do the following:

Open Notepad and select File, Page Setup.
In the Margin boxes, set them all to zero then move the cursor from
the
last
margin box.
The settings will automatically change to your printers minimums.

I have a HP 1200 Business InkJet and my minimum bottom setting is
.46";
sounds like your HP is the same.


--
Don - Publisher 2000®
Vancouver, USA


"jamowa" wrote in message
news I created a small 4 pg booklet using a designed template from MS
online.
This
is a 1/2 booklet format 5.5 x 8.5; I set all margins to 1/4" in the
master
and page set up. I successfully insert my pics & bled them to the
edge
of
the
sheet.

The problem comes with printing samples on my HP PSC 1350 home
printer.
I
lose 1/2" of printing on the front edge of pg 1 & pg 3; meaing that
for
1/2"
from the edge.. it is blank and my full image doesn't print fully.
I
want
to
bleed all the images to the edge and use printed sample pages or
send a
pdf
to the printer for finishing. I'm tryig to avoid any trimming or
cutting
since the paper to be used w/b 8.5x11.

I checked the printer settings which don't seem to have an effect on
eliminating this 1/2" non-printable margin. Thanks for any useful
advice.

Thanks to everyone for their responses. You all had some good info. This 4
pg brochure was going to China for printing so I was trying to make it super
simple. Maybe too simple.

In the end, I just used two 8.5x11 landscape pages and marked the center
fold and .25" margin all around. I figured once I converted it to pdf file,
it would be fairly easy to print, trim, and fold. I was trying to avoid the
trim part, but c'est la vie.

I'll know soon if the client was able to print and use.
ta,

"Don Schmidt" wrote:

I believe the reason the right margin is .5" is because it is the bottom of
the sheet of paper as it comes out of the printer; thus the bottom margin.