When I type fff the first two letters are closer than the last two

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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If I type three sets of "fff," I see more space between the first two f's in
the first group than in the other two and more space between the last two
f's in the last group than in the other two, which seems to confirm that
this is probably a rounding error. You still haven't told us why this is so
vital to you.

That information is currently proprietary. We haven't tracked down the exact
cause, if it was a rounding error, then it should have showed up in one of the
other applications. For now it looks like a bug. We have at least derived a
work-around. Turning Kerning on does make all of the spacing consistent. That is
an excellent step in the right direction. I appreciate all of the help.


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Words into Type
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"Peter Olcott" wrote in message
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I tried it again using {Times New Roman, Bold, Italic, 24-point}
I tried this typing "fff fff fff" and the problem did not occur on the
first "fff", only the second one and the third one.

It can be seen on the screen without pixel magnification. The right side
of the
cross line "t" portion of the first "f" is one pixel away from the the
left side
of the cross line "t" portion of the second "f" whereas this same distance
between the seond "f" and the third "f" is two pixels.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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Well, it doesn't happen for me at 100% Zoom on a 17" Trinitron-type Dell
CRT
monitor at 1024 x 768. We don't know what kind of equipment and settings
Peter is using.

Perhaps it would help to know why this is an issue he cannot ignore.

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"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
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While I don't know the answer to that particular question, I think that
we
CAN rule it out as being an MS Word issue as you suggest because it
does
not
happen in MS Word for either Suzanne, JoAnn, or the two different
computers
on which I have tried it.

As a result, the only conclusion that I can draw is that it is
something
peculiar to your setup - hardware or drivers.

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Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Peter Olcott" wrote in message
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"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
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I've had issues with Publisher that didn't occur in other programs
and
they were video driver issues. And before you say that you are
talking
about Word,not Publisher, those two program do share certain
"quirks".

I will ask again - did you look at the file on another computer?
*IF*
it
appears on that computer as well, then it could be a ligature.*IF*
it
doesn't, they it could be a video driver issue. Sometimes you need
to
rule out a setting on your computer before you go blaming the
program.

How could it possibly be a video driver issue if notepad on the same
computer, and Non-italic in the same font on the same computer does
not
have this problem?

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Peter Olcott" wrote in message
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"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
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I'd still suggest updating your video drivers.

I am 100% certain that it is not a video driver issue. Notepad does
not
do this MS Word does this. This proves that it is not a video
driver
issue. I think that it might be a ligature issue. It occurs in
Times
New
Roman-Bold-Italic-24 Point. It does not occur in the Non-Italic
form
of
this same font.


Does this problem appear on other computers?

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Peter Olcott" wrote in message
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It is not a display driver issue, it is an MS Word issue. When I
do
the same thing in notepad, the characters are evenly spaced. I
must
have an answer to this problem, it is not something that I can
ignore.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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If it's a display issue only, then it's probably a video driver
issue
or an
issue with the display font. If it doesn't print that way, then
I
would
consider it not worth worrying about.

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Words into Type
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"Peter Olcott" wrote in message
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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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I'm not seeing that here, but possibly an AutoCorrect entry
has
been set
up
to substitute an ff ligature for two f's. This character is
not
present
in

It is working this way in a new blank document. I am referring
to
the
on-screen
image, not the printed image. This difference can only be seen
when
a
screen
capture is made and the pixels are examined.

most fonts (though some do contain the fi and fl ligatures),
but
it is
available in "expert" fonts and possibly in OpenType fonts
(though
not
necessarily accessible directly in Word's Symbol dialog. You
might
try
asking this question in the
microsoft.public.word.printingfonts
NG.

Note that two of the NGs you're posting to (.word and
.word.general)
have
been deprecated on the Microsoft server and so will not be
propagated to
some other news servers.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Peter Olcott" wrote in message
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Why is it when I type fff in Bold Italic 24 Point Times New
Roman
that
the
first
two letters are closer together than the last two letters?

Thanks