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  #61  
Old December 18th, 2008, 07:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default How Do I Turn On the Ribbon

Well, then, that's Outlook, not Word.

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave in Chicago" wrote in message
...
Thanks for your reply; I also am confounded. Following is what is on my
"About" windos: MSO Outlook 2007 (12.0.6316.5000) SP 1 MSO
(12.0.6320.5000)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It appears that whatever CD was in the box was not Office 2007. Since you
have a traditional menu bar, go to Help | About Microsoft Word. What is
the
version number given?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave in Chicago" Dave in wrote in
message ...
I have Office 07, installed from CD right out of the box. But I have
only
the raditional menu bar and tool bar, NOT the Office button and not the
Ribbon. I know that this format/view supposedly does not exist in 07,
but
this is what I have. Any thoughts on how to find/turn on the ribbon?



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.








  #62  
Old March 21st, 2009, 09:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
mpmoriarty
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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

I am really not interested in learning how to ususe the same commands that I
have always used. This is the second time that MS has done this tom me. I
use Office because it is what i know. If I wanted a program that did
something different I would go to Lotus or OpenOffice.

My brother has been using a new product by AutoDesk that he says is
terrible, but is touted as the next great thing. Are view is that if both of
your comapies don't produce something else to charge $700 per license every
other year, where are your incomes going to come from?

I'm not interested in supporting MS. If they cannot come up with somenting
that I want, i do not want to pay for it.

Does anybody want to trade my MS Office 2007, for some previous version?

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

Some of us are still keyboard-centric (we enter/create vs. access

data).
Having to pick up the mouse every time to access what we see is painful at
best.

The ribbon is fully accessible via the keyboard. Press and release Alt
to get started.
In addition, all menu shortcuts (Alt+ something) that you have in 2003
work in 2007 as well. So if you know your keyboard shortcuts by hard,
just keep using them.
You should give the ribbon a chance. It is a monumental change and you
really can only make a good call after having used it for a while (after
all, you need to overcome its unfamiliarity). Also, I suggest you find a
typical user in your organization and have them try it as well.
Experience shows that the users most struggling with the ribbon are
power users, because they know where their features are in the
menu/toolbar system, while beginner/intermediate users often times end
up hunting for a feature. Most corporate users are not power users, but
the people making the decision on whether to roll 2007 out or not
generally are. That is bound to give them a somewhat skewed view on what
the real impact and training needs in the organization will be. I think
2007 requires a much different training approach than previous Office
version. Different in that the users requiring the most training are the
ones who required the least for earlier versions (power users).
As I said already, force yourself to use it exclusively and see how you
feel about a week or two from now (if it's any indication, it took me a
month during the beta to feel familiar with the ribbon and not wanting
to go back to menus/toolbars).
There is a lot of things somewhat hidden that will make your life easier
using it.
Anything surrounding customization:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/18/68 (this basically lists anything you
can adjust to your personal liking)
Then I would suggest to take a closer look by starting from this post:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58
You probably want to look at the sections "Overview of the new UI",
"Ribbon UI Elements" and "Keyboard control of the Ribbon". A lot of the
things categorized in this post are extremely worthwhile reading though.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

I was a beta tester for 95. I was in the cheering section for Office XP,
expecially Outlook, and I wouldn't buy Office 2007 personally or recommend it
to anyone who has ever used a computer.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions for a given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims that reception of
the new version is good.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.






  #63  
Old September 10th, 2009, 01:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Ozbecool
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Default The Arrogance of Microsoft

I agree with you. May be you should at least start warning other people about
M...t products - as I already have.
---


"J Walker" wrote:

The Arrogance of Microsoft

This just shows how little Microsoft actually cares about its customer base.
If they had any concern at all they would have included the classic UI,
rather than forcing us to purchase it for an additional $29 from some third
party. What arrogance!

I am so sorry that I upgraded. I’ve used Word for just about 20 years now
and I am an absolute fool for trusting MS. I should have done more research
before buying.

Microsoft clearly does not care about its long time customers.


"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

  #64  
Old February 9th, 2010, 05:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
bmur
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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

I have to agree with the other writers. We have installed it on test here and
the interface is horrible. Its now on test 4 month's and its no easier. Why
do microsoft change what was the most successful interface in software. There
has to be a service pack resoving this or we for one will not be
implementing. I will not suffer the annoyance of the users here.
--
bmw520


"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.



  #65  
Old February 10th, 2010, 11:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Mi Tasol
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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

On Feb 10, 3:04*am, bmur wrote:
I have to agree with the other writers. We have installed it on test here and
the interface is horrible. Its now on test 4 month's and its no easier. Why
do microsoft change what was the most successful interface in software. There
has to be a service pack resoving this or we for one will not be
implementing. I will not suffer the annoyance of the users here.
--
bmw520

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:
There is nooldmenubar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.


Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues:http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007:http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007:http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog:http://pschmid.net/blog/feed


"Tom B" wrote in message
:


How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.


Yep - it has nearly all been said. My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.
And the default output is docx, yuck.

In every version of Word they dumb it down and foul up some good
features (eg mail merge and the exact width of table columns were
loused up in W2003). The only good thing I found in 2007 is I can
customise my paste special to default to unformatted text.

Fortunately to create or fix my tables (except where they have
highlighted text), or do global changes in headers/footers, and a lot
of other issues, I can open the file in OpenOffice without any
problems.

At least the OO design team seem to listen to the users, they produce
a version that fits on my USB drive so wherever I go I have my
customizations all set up and they print PDFs automatically in the
same page size as the original document - something Adobe don't, and
works with real XML. Now if OO would just fit a Shift+F3 toggle and
fix a couple of other minor issues, I would be happy ;-)

Mi Tasol


  #66  
Old February 11th, 2010, 12:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels
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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

On Feb 10, 6:35*pm, Mi Tasol wrote:

Yep - it has nearly all been said. *My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.


I.e., the QAT.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.


Not if you minimize the Ribbon (double-click on any of its tabs).

And the default output is docx, yuck.


Maybe half the size of the same file in .doc format.

[snip praise of OO. Maybe it has the features _you_ need, but it's
perfectly lousy for what I need to do.]
  #67  
Old February 11th, 2010, 12:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

And it is still quite possible to set table columns to an exact width.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Feb 10, 6:35 pm, Mi Tasol wrote:

Yep - it has nearly all been said. My 2 cents worth as a tech writer

In Word 2003 I have edited all the tool bars down to what I need and
the lot, including track changes, drawing bar and some spare room, all
fit in one narrow bar leaving the maximum real estate for work.


I.e., the QAT.

The ribbon means I loose work space and have to put up with a lot of
garbage that I never want to see as I do the tasks with my keyboard.


Not if you minimize the Ribbon (double-click on any of its tabs).

And the default output is docx, yuck.


Maybe half the size of the same file in .doc format.

[snip praise of OO. Maybe it has the features _you_ need, but it's
perfectly lousy for what I need to do.]

  #68  
Old March 10th, 2010, 06:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
David C. Wood
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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

I have used the ribbon interface for over a year and I still cannot recommend
it to anyone.

Users cannot customize menus without a huge learning curve.
MS was unable to organize menus logically what makes you think you can
arrange pictograms any better?
How bout giving the user a choice bbetween the conventional, tried and true
interface and the new, useless one world pictogram interface?

It is worse than ridiculous, it is certainly conceived by an elitist that
knows better than all of us users.

It has been 3 years now, how are those adoption numbers now?

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

Some of us are still keyboard-centric (we enter/create vs. access

data).
Having to pick up the mouse every time to access what we see is painful at
best.

The ribbon is fully accessible via the keyboard. Press and release Alt
to get started.
In addition, all menu shortcuts (Alt+ something) that you have in 2003
work in 2007 as well. So if you know your keyboard shortcuts by hard,
just keep using them.
You should give the ribbon a chance. It is a monumental change and you
really can only make a good call after having used it for a while (after
all, you need to overcome its unfamiliarity). Also, I suggest you find a
typical user in your organization and have them try it as well.
Experience shows that the users most struggling with the ribbon are
power users, because they know where their features are in the
menu/toolbar system, while beginner/intermediate users often times end
up hunting for a feature. Most corporate users are not power users, but
the people making the decision on whether to roll 2007 out or not
generally are. That is bound to give them a somewhat skewed view on what
the real impact and training needs in the organization will be. I think
2007 requires a much different training approach than previous Office
version. Different in that the users requiring the most training are the
ones who required the least for earlier versions (power users).
As I said already, force yourself to use it exclusively and see how you
feel about a week or two from now (if it's any indication, it took me a
month during the beta to feel familiar with the ribbon and not wanting
to go back to menus/toolbars).
There is a lot of things somewhat hidden that will make your life easier
using it.
Anything surrounding customization:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/18/68 (this basically lists anything you
can adjust to your personal liking)
Then I would suggest to take a closer look by starting from this post:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58
You probably want to look at the sections "Overview of the new UI",
"Ribbon UI Elements" and "Keyboard control of the Ribbon". A lot of the
things categorized in this post are extremely worthwhile reading though.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

I was a beta tester for 95. I was in the cheering section for Office XP,
expecially Outlook, and I wouldn't buy Office 2007 personally or recommend it
to anyone who has ever used a computer.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions for a given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims that reception of
the new version is good.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.






  #69  
Old March 10th, 2010, 07:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Stefan Blom[_3_]
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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

In the user interface, you cannot modify the ribbon in Word 2007. You'll
need Patrick Schmid's ribbon customizer at
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer (the link is actually
included in an earlier message in this thread).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"David C. Wood" David C. wrote in message
...
I have used the ribbon interface for over a year and I still cannot
recommend
it to anyone.

Users cannot customize menus without a huge learning curve.
MS was unable to organize menus logically what makes you think you can
arrange pictograms any better?
How bout giving the user a choice bbetween the conventional, tried and
true
interface and the new, useless one world pictogram interface?

It is worse than ridiculous, it is certainly conceived by an elitist that
knows better than all of us users.

It has been 3 years now, how are those adoption numbers now?

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

Some of us are still keyboard-centric (we enter/create vs. access

data).
Having to pick up the mouse every time to access what we see is painful
at
best.

The ribbon is fully accessible via the keyboard. Press and release Alt
to get started.
In addition, all menu shortcuts (Alt+ something) that you have in 2003
work in 2007 as well. So if you know your keyboard shortcuts by hard,
just keep using them.
You should give the ribbon a chance. It is a monumental change and you
really can only make a good call after having used it for a while (after
all, you need to overcome its unfamiliarity). Also, I suggest you find a
typical user in your organization and have them try it as well.
Experience shows that the users most struggling with the ribbon are
power users, because they know where their features are in the
menu/toolbar system, while beginner/intermediate users often times end
up hunting for a feature. Most corporate users are not power users, but
the people making the decision on whether to roll 2007 out or not
generally are. That is bound to give them a somewhat skewed view on what
the real impact and training needs in the organization will be. I think
2007 requires a much different training approach than previous Office
version. Different in that the users requiring the most training are the
ones who required the least for earlier versions (power users).
As I said already, force yourself to use it exclusively and see how you
feel about a week or two from now (if it's any indication, it took me a
month during the beta to feel familiar with the ribbon and not wanting
to go back to menus/toolbars).
There is a lot of things somewhat hidden that will make your life easier
using it.
Anything surrounding customization:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/18/68 (this basically lists anything you
can adjust to your personal liking)
Then I would suggest to take a closer look by starting from this post:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58
You probably want to look at the sections "Overview of the new UI",
"Ribbon UI Elements" and "Keyboard control of the Ribbon". A lot of the
things categorized in this post are extremely worthwhile reading though.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

I was a beta tester for 95. I was in the cheering section for Office
XP,
expecially Outlook, and I wouldn't buy Office 2007 personally or
recommend it
to anyone who has ever used a computer.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate
America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions for a
given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims that
reception of
the new version is good.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If
a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate
corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have
to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it
office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to
be
retrained.









  #70  
Old March 10th, 2010, 09:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
David C. Wood[_2_]
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Default how do i enable the old menu bar

What I would like to know is if MS is still gathering statistics, what do
they look like?
Is there any noticeable improvement in efficiency?
Have users started to use more advanced features?
Do the average users still enter a [Return] at the end of each line.
Do more users paginate?
Do user use Styles to structure the appearance of their documents or do they
still use [Space] and [Tab] to change the appearance?
Are more users using watermarks, inserting graphics or OLE objects?

Questionable Statistics are a result of selecting to use only certain data
sets that support the preconceived opinion or structuring the questions to
give the desired results.

David C. Wood

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

I kind of expect your answer, but here it goes: Are you more

productive with
the new menu system? Are you faster? Did you time yourself? I know why they
dumb down the interface, but why do they have to drag the install base (at
least 80% of the users of PC's) with them?

Yes, I am more productive and faster.

I know the alt keys are in place, but it doesn't work the same. If I hit
Alt-E and enter, it does nothing. In 2003, it would undo. That isn't being
picky. I have been using Word, happily, since the first windows version.

Hmm, I see. Yes, that kind of scenario isn't supported.

Ironically, I make an add-in that could be used to get the old
menu/toolbar system somewhat back...

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

Some of us are still keyboard-centric (we enter/create vs. access
data).
Having to pick up the mouse every time to access what we see is painful at
best.
The ribbon is fully accessible via the keyboard. Press and release Alt
to get started.
In addition, all menu shortcuts (Alt+ something) that you have in 2003
work in 2007 as well. So if you know your keyboard shortcuts by hard,
just keep using them.
You should give the ribbon a chance. It is a monumental change and you
really can only make a good call after having used it for a while (after
all, you need to overcome its unfamiliarity). Also, I suggest you find a
typical user in your organization and have them try it as well.
Experience shows that the users most struggling with the ribbon are
power users, because they know where their features are in the
menu/toolbar system, while beginner/intermediate users often times end
up hunting for a feature. Most corporate users are not power users, but
the people making the decision on whether to roll 2007 out or not
generally are. That is bound to give them a somewhat skewed view on what
the real impact and training needs in the organization will be. I think
2007 requires a much different training approach than previous Office
version. Different in that the users requiring the most training are the
ones who required the least for earlier versions (power users).
As I said already, force yourself to use it exclusively and see how you
feel about a week or two from now (if it's any indication, it took me a
month during the beta to feel familiar with the ribbon and not wanting
to go back to menus/toolbars).
There is a lot of things somewhat hidden that will make your life easier
using it.
Anything surrounding customization:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/18/68 (this basically lists anything you
can adjust to your personal liking)
Then I would suggest to take a closer look by starting from this post:
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58
You probably want to look at the sections "Overview of the new UI",
"Ribbon UI Elements" and "Keyboard control of the Ribbon". A lot of the
things categorized in this post are extremely worthwhile reading though.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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http://pschmid.net
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Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
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I was a beta tester for 95. I was in the cheering section for Office XP,
expecially Outlook, and I wouldn't buy Office 2007 personally or recommend it
to anyone who has ever used a computer.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Adoption of any new Office version is always slow in corporate America,
which has considerable investment in training custom solutions for a given
version, not to mention the software itself. But MS claims that reception of
the new version is good.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Tom B" wrote in message
...
Then that alone close any implementation plans for office 2007. If a
number
of companies follow the same path as ours then the low rate corporate
acceptance will encourage development of an application that has an
acceptable ROI.

Thanks for the reply and we look forward to the service pack

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office
2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.








 




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