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  #11  
Old May 31st, 2009, 06:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

FWIW, if you right-click on the Start button (at least in Windows XP and
2000), one of the menu items is "Explore."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
And where on one's computer, praytell, will one find something labeled
"Windows Explorer" or "Windows Vista Explorer"? Not in the Start menu
or in the Start All Programs menu.

My point in several messages these last few days is that the experts
are giving vague hints that will only require the OPs to post again
asking what they mean (as happens very often), instead of explicit
instructions the first time.

On May 31, 10:05 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Windows Explorer (Windows XP) Windows Vista Explorer (Vista) and Internet
Explorer all have an address bar and will work just the same. They are
merely access points into the Windows filing system.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




grammatim wrote:
(When Graham says "Explorer," he means "(My) Computer." Folks who have
been using Windows for many years don't realize that more recent users
aren't aware of the name "Explorer" having been used for anything
other than the internet access tool.)


On May 31, 1:22 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Owl1 wrote:
I dragged it so it would float, closed Word, re-opened Word, and it
was again docked.


It should stay where you left it (and certainly does in later Word
versions) however try the following.


Open the Normal template. If you have not changed the default user
template folder, you will find the template in the folder
%appdata%\Microsoft\Templates


Enter or copy the above into the Explorer address bar.


Move the toolbar to where you want it. Add a character to the text
space and delete it. Save and close the template.


Close and re-open Word. Is the toolbar now where you left it?


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
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  #12  
Old May 31st, 2009, 08:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
grammatim[_2_]
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

In Vista, too. It brings up what seems to be the same window as
"Computer" -- (a) with an extra click, and (b) why would someone think
of right-clicking on the Start button?, and (c) that's not "Explorer."

On May 31, 1:50*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
FWIW, if you right-click on the Start button (at least in Windows XP and
2000), one of the menu items is "Explore."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
And where on one's computer, praytell, will one find something labeled
"Windows Explorer" or "Windows Vista Explorer"? Not in the Start menu
or in the Start All Programs menu.

My point in several messages these last few days is that the experts
are giving vague hints that will only require the OPs to post again
asking what they mean (as happens very often), instead of explicit
instructions the first time.

On May 31, 10:05 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:



Windows Explorer (Windows XP) Windows Vista Explorer (Vista) and Internet
Explorer all have an address bar and will work just the same. They are
merely access points into the Windows filing system.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org


grammatim wrote:
(When Graham says "Explorer," he means "(My) Computer." Folks who have
been using Windows for many years don't realize that more recent users
aren't aware of the name "Explorer" having been used for anything
other than the internet access tool.)


On May 31, 1:22 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Owl1 wrote:
I dragged it so it would float, closed Word, re-opened Word, and it
was again docked.


It should stay where you left it (and certainly does in later Word
versions) however try the following.


Open the Normal template. If you have not changed the default user
template folder, you will find the template in the folder
%appdata%\Microsoft\Templates


Enter or copy the above into the Explorer address bar.


Move the toolbar to where you want it. Add a character to the text
space and delete it. Save and close the template.


Close and re-open Word. Is the toolbar now where you left it?


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
--

  #13  
Old May 31st, 2009, 10:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

Explore is also one of the options if you right-click My Computer on the
desktop. You use the Explorer to Explore.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
In Vista, too. It brings up what seems to be the same window as
"Computer" -- (a) with an extra click, and (b) why would someone think
of right-clicking on the Start button?, and (c) that's not "Explorer."

On May 31, 1:50 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
FWIW, if you right-click on the Start button (at least in Windows XP and
2000), one of the menu items is "Explore."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
And where on one's computer, praytell, will one find something labeled
"Windows Explorer" or "Windows Vista Explorer"? Not in the Start menu
or in the Start All Programs menu.

My point in several messages these last few days is that the experts
are giving vague hints that will only require the OPs to post again
asking what they mean (as happens very often), instead of explicit
instructions the first time.

On May 31, 10:05 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:



Windows Explorer (Windows XP) Windows Vista Explorer (Vista) and
Internet
Explorer all have an address bar and will work just the same. They are
merely access points into the Windows filing system.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org


grammatim wrote:
(When Graham says "Explorer," he means "(My) Computer." Folks who have
been using Windows for many years don't realize that more recent users
aren't aware of the name "Explorer" having been used for anything
other than the internet access tool.)


On May 31, 1:22 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Owl1 wrote:
I dragged it so it would float, closed Word, re-opened Word, and it
was again docked.


It should stay where you left it (and certainly does in later Word
versions) however try the following.


Open the Normal template. If you have not changed the default user
template folder, you will find the template in the folder
%appdata%\Microsoft\Templates


Enter or copy the above into the Explorer address bar.


Move the toolbar to where you want it. Add a character to the text
space and delete it. Save and close the template.


Close and re-open Word. Is the toolbar now where you left it?


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
--


  #14  
Old June 1st, 2009, 04:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
grammatim[_2_]
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

Ah -- we've found another difference in Vista. There's no "Computer"
on the Desktop.

But if right-clicking on My Computer and choosing Explore gives the
same result as clicking directly on My Computer, what's the point?

On May 31, 5:59*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Explore is also one of the options if you right-click My Computer on the
desktop. You use the Explorer to Explore.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
In Vista, too. It brings up what seems to be the same window as
"Computer" -- (a) with an extra click, and (b) why would someone think
of right-clicking on the Start button?, and (c) that's not "Explorer."

On May 31, 1:50 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



FWIW, if you right-click on the Start button (at least in Windows XP and
2000), one of the menu items is "Explore."


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
And where on one's computer, praytell, will one find something labeled
"Windows Explorer" or "Windows Vista Explorer"? Not in the Start menu
or in the Start All Programs menu.


My point in several messages these last few days is that the experts
are giving vague hints that will only require the OPs to post again
asking what they mean (as happens very often), instead of explicit
instructions the first time.


On May 31, 10:05 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:


Windows Explorer (Windows XP) Windows Vista Explorer (Vista) and
Internet
Explorer all have an address bar and will work just the same. They are
merely access points into the Windows filing system.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org


grammatim wrote:
(When Graham says "Explorer," he means "(My) Computer." Folks who have
been using Windows for many years don't realize that more recent users
aren't aware of the name "Explorer" having been used for anything
other than the internet access tool.)


On May 31, 1:22 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Owl1 wrote:
I dragged it so it would float, closed Word, re-opened Word, and it
was again docked.


It should stay where you left it (and certainly does in later Word
versions) however try the following.


Open the Normal template. If you have not changed the default user
template folder, you will find the template in the folder
%appdata%\Microsoft\Templates


Enter or copy the above into the Explorer address bar.


Move the toolbar to where you want it. Add a character to the text
space and delete it. Save and close the template.


Close and re-open Word. Is the toolbar now where you left it?


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
---

  #15  
Old June 1st, 2009, 04:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

There's actually a subtle difference. The default action when you
double-click on My Computer is Open, which (at least in my copy of Windows
XP) opens a window with a blue panel on the left with System Tasks, Other
Places, and Details. Explore, OTOH, opens the same Explorer window as I get
with WinKey+E, with a folder tree in the left panel, the same view you get
if you click the Folders button in the window opened by double-clicking on
the icon (the Folders button toggles between these two views).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Ah -- we've found another difference in Vista. There's no "Computer"
on the Desktop.

But if right-clicking on My Computer and choosing Explore gives the
same result as clicking directly on My Computer, what's the point?

On May 31, 5:59 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Explore is also one of the options if you right-click My Computer on the
desktop. You use the Explorer to Explore.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
In Vista, too. It brings up what seems to be the same window as
"Computer" -- (a) with an extra click, and (b) why would someone think
of right-clicking on the Start button?, and (c) that's not "Explorer."

On May 31, 1:50 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



FWIW, if you right-click on the Start button (at least in Windows XP and
2000), one of the menu items is "Explore."


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
And where on one's computer, praytell, will one find something labeled
"Windows Explorer" or "Windows Vista Explorer"? Not in the Start menu
or in the Start All Programs menu.


My point in several messages these last few days is that the experts
are giving vague hints that will only require the OPs to post again
asking what they mean (as happens very often), instead of explicit
instructions the first time.


On May 31, 10:05 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:


Windows Explorer (Windows XP) Windows Vista Explorer (Vista) and
Internet
Explorer all have an address bar and will work just the same. They are
merely access points into the Windows filing system.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org


grammatim wrote:
(When Graham says "Explorer," he means "(My) Computer." Folks who
have
been using Windows for many years don't realize that more recent
users
aren't aware of the name "Explorer" having been used for anything
other than the internet access tool.)


On May 31, 1:22 am, "Graham Mayor"
wrote:
Owl1 wrote:
I dragged it so it would float, closed Word, re-opened Word, and
it
was again docked.


It should stay where you left it (and certainly does in later Word
versions) however try the following.


Open the Normal template. If you have not changed the default user
template folder, you will find the template in the folder
%appdata%\Microsoft\Templates


Enter or copy the above into the Explorer address bar.


Move the toolbar to where you want it. Add a character to the text
space and delete it. Save and close the template.


Close and re-open Word. Is the toolbar now where you left it?


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
---


  #16  
Old June 1st, 2009, 07:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Tony Jollans
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

Start All Programs Accessories Windows Explorer

The name "Explorer" is fairly well established although there may be some
users who don't recognise it - or confuse it with Internet Explorer
(although you can browse your computer with IE if you want). Microsoft
terminology can have a tendency to confuse but it simply isn't possible to
give details for all possible scenarios. The OP does have the ability to ask
for more detail if there is something he doesn't understand, but I suspect a
user of Word 2000 probably knows what Explorer is.

In this instance the Explorer one, perhaps, wants to use is the Word Open
Dialog; going via My Computer is a long way round.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

www.WordArticles.com

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
And where on one's computer, praytell, will one find something labeled
"Windows Explorer" or "Windows Vista Explorer"? Not in the Start menu
or in the Start All Programs menu.

My point in several messages these last few days is that the experts
are giving vague hints that will only require the OPs to post again
asking what they mean (as happens very often), instead of explicit
instructions the first time.

On May 31, 10:05 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Windows Explorer (Windows XP) Windows Vista Explorer (Vista) and Internet
Explorer all have an address bar and will work just the same. They are
merely access points into the Windows filing system.
--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org




grammatim wrote:
(When Graham says "Explorer," he means "(My) Computer." Folks who have
been using Windows for many years don't realize that more recent users
aren't aware of the name "Explorer" having been used for anything
other than the internet access tool.)


On May 31, 1:22 am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
Owl1 wrote:
I dragged it so it would float, closed Word, re-opened Word, and it
was again docked.


It should stay where you left it (and certainly does in later Word
versions) however try the following.


Open the Normal template. If you have not changed the default user
template folder, you will find the template in the folder
%appdata%\Microsoft\Templates


Enter or copy the above into the Explorer address bar.


Move the toolbar to where you want it. Add a character to the text
space and delete it. Save and close the template.


Close and re-open Word. Is the toolbar now where you left it?


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP


My web sitewww.gmayor.com
Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org
-


  #17  
Old June 1st, 2009, 07:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Owl1
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

Thank you for your suggestion, Graham, but it didn't work. I did what you
recommended: I opened Normal.dot, moved the Clipboard toolbar from its
obsessive docked position so it would float normally, added a text space to
the document and then deleted it, save the result, closed Normal.dot, closed
Word, re-opened Word, hit Ctrl-C twice, and, lo!, the Clipboard toolbar was
RIGHT BACK IN ITS DOCKED POSITION.

To say this is frustrating is an understatement! I very much appreciate your
thinking about this and offering any ideas. I'm more than willing to try any
suggestions. Many thanks, again.
  #18  
Old June 1st, 2009, 07:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Tony Jollans
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

Default toolbar positions are held in the registry; customizations are held
in templates or documents. I am not aware of any other data held anywhere
that affects this.

Do you get the same result if you start Word in safe mode - hold down Ctrl
while opening Word?

--
Enjoy,
Tony

www.WordArticles.com

"Owl1" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your suggestion, Graham, but it didn't work. I did what you
recommended: I opened Normal.dot, moved the Clipboard toolbar from its
obsessive docked position so it would float normally, added a text space
to
the document and then deleted it, save the result, closed Normal.dot,
closed
Word, re-opened Word, hit Ctrl-C twice, and, lo!, the Clipboard toolbar
was
RIGHT BACK IN ITS DOCKED POSITION.

To say this is frustrating is an understatement! I very much appreciate
your
thinking about this and offering any ideas. I'm more than willing to try
any
suggestions. Many thanks, again.


  #19  
Old June 1st, 2009, 07:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Graham Mayor
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

Hmmm. As you have tried the more obvious things, I wonder if this was a
limitation of Word 2000, fixed in later versions? Certainly with Word 2003
it stays where you put it.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Owl1 wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion, Graham, but it didn't work. I did what
you recommended: I opened Normal.dot, moved the Clipboard toolbar
from its obsessive docked position so it would float normally, added
a text space to the document and then deleted it, save the result,
closed Normal.dot, closed Word, re-opened Word, hit Ctrl-C twice,
and, lo!, the Clipboard toolbar was RIGHT BACK IN ITS DOCKED POSITION.

To say this is frustrating is an understatement! I very much
appreciate your thinking about this and offering any ideas. I'm more
than willing to try any suggestions. Many thanks, again.



  #20  
Old June 1st, 2009, 08:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Tony Jollans
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Default Word Clipboard Toolbar Always Docks Itself

To some extent what happens after 2000 is irrelevant, as it became a Task
Pane. But there is no limitation - it used to work for Owl1, and still works
for me.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

www.WordArticles.com

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
Hmmm. As you have tried the more obvious things, I wonder if this was a
limitation of Word 2000, fixed in later versions? Certainly with Word 2003
it stays where you put it.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Owl1 wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion, Graham, but it didn't work. I did what
you recommended: I opened Normal.dot, moved the Clipboard toolbar
from its obsessive docked position so it would float normally, added
a text space to the document and then deleted it, save the result,
closed Normal.dot, closed Word, re-opened Word, hit Ctrl-C twice,
and, lo!, the Clipboard toolbar was RIGHT BACK IN ITS DOCKED POSITION.

To say this is frustrating is an understatement! I very much
appreciate your thinking about this and offering any ideas. I'm more
than willing to try any suggestions. Many thanks, again.




 




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