Top posting in MS Newsgroups

Personally, I prefer top-posting too.

Occasionally, though, I find it easier to reply "inline" if I'm answering a
long, complex message and I want to comment on several different things in
that message.

~~~
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion,
I started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added
his message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message
...
I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.
--
Paul
Top-posting but still confused
MS Office 2007
XP Home SP3
Dell Inspiron 1501


"

Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion, I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.

Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion,
I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...



I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just
figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.

That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated discussion,
I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...

I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just
figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.-

No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly; yours
(and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Contrariwise, I have to scroll to the top to read the new comments;
google groups takes one to the bottom of the message, and this is the
only one of the five newsgroups I read that uses top-posting.

On Feb 18, 9:13 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Because the issue of top vs. bottom posting can provoke heated
discussion,
I
started to post something yesterday and then thought better of it. But I
also prefer top-posting for the reasons Graham mentioned. Yes, it is
illogical and does make reading more difficult for people who come to
the
thread late, but for those who are following it actively, it is far more
efficient.

Not only do I hate to scroll to the bottom of a long thread only to read
"Thanks!" but occasionally I scroll to the bottom and don't seem to find
any
new content; this illusion is caused by the fact that the poster added
his
message within the area of quoted material (blank lines) set off by
characters, making it appear to be part of the previous message.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org

"Paul" wrote in message

...

I hate not being able to edit your posts..... I meant the reverse of
what
I
just posted. I can happily top-post if that's acceptable...I just
figured
that bottom-posting was netiquette...ok over and out.-

It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows Live
Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do you have
set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I have: Plain
Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None", wrap at 76, and
the Indent Original text with "" option selected.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows Live
Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do you have
set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I have: Plain
Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None", wrap at 76,
and the Indent Original text with "" option selected.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

Then maybe it's time to make the switch to Windows Live Mail. g,d &r
Seriously though, you can install it on Windows XP and provided you don't
use the WebNews options (mainly due to the issue of posts getting eaten)
it's almost identical to OE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows
Live Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do you
have set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I have:
Plain Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None", wrap
at 76, and the Indent Original text with "" option selected.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text
isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

What does it have that OE doesn't have?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
Then maybe it's time to make the switch to Windows Live Mail. g,d &r
Seriously though, you can install it on Windows XP and provided you don't
use the WebNews options (mainly due to the issue of posts getting eaten)
it's almost identical to OE.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows
Live Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do
you have set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I
have: Plain Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using "None",
wrap at 76, and the Indent Original text with "" option selected.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text
isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."

For starters it has its own proofing tools. That was a big plus in my book.
I was copy/pasting to Word when necessary. I held out on installing
third-party proofing tools until Microsoft provided an alternative for
Windows XP users. Part of it, of course, was sheer stubbornness but it also
kept the issue fresh in my mind so I could mention it every chance I got.
;-)

It also has many of the webnews features, such as the ratings, voting, etc
so you can log on and see them if you want. I was using them until it kept
eating my posts. Very frustrating to discover several days worth of posts
missing!

The Reading Pane can be displayed on the right like Outlook. I scroll a lot
less now, especially for the bottom postings. There's a few other new
features but I don't use any of them for the newsgroups.

And, of course, it appears it quotes replies property.

The one thing I don't like is my munged Reply To email address isn't used on
posts, as it is in OE, but I resolved that by using a munged email address
instead.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton
Microsoft Office MVP
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Melton
What is a Microsoft MVP? http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

Guides for the Office 2007 Interface:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/tr...295841033.aspx

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
What does it have that OE doesn't have?


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
Then maybe it's time to make the switch to Windows Live Mail. g,d &r
Seriously though, you can install it on Windows XP and provided you don't
use the WebNews options (mainly due to the issue of posts getting eaten)
it's almost identical to OE.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
My settings are identical to yours. Note below that there are the same
number of in grammatim's reply to my post and my reply to him.


"Beth Melton" wrote in message
...
It quotes correctly for me if I reply to grammatim. I'm using Windows
Live Mail but it shouldn't be different from Outlook Express. What do
you have set for your News Sending Options under Tools/Options/Send? I
have: Plain Text and for Plain Text Settings: MIME, Encode using
"None", wrap at 76, and the Indent Original text with "" option
selected.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, I use Outlook Express, and all other replies are quoted correctly;
yours (and perhaps others from Google Groups) are the exception.

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
That must be something going on at your end, because I get the 's
(the correct number of them) whenever I do Reply. Have you tried
google groups?

On Feb 18, 12:33 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Worse still, when I reply to one of your messages, the quoted text
isn't
indicated by , so it's not practical to reply "inline."