Do you use OpenOffice and do you find it is not compatible withOffice Word?

On Apr 6, 10:37*pm, owl wrote:
In comp.os.linux.advocacy RayLopez99 wrote:

Can you define "complex"?

Easy. *Complex is a feature that your opponent in a negotiation has in
their word processing document, that you cannot reproduce because you
are using OO rather than Word.

Got it? *And that means you lose the negotiation, lose the sale, lose
the job, lose your job.

Could you outline a scenario where lack of a document feature would
cause loss of a negotiation, sale, or job?

Easy. But you're smart enough to do that owl.

I've been involved in multibillion dollar negotiations, teetering on a
knife edge (buyer/seller last minute remorse), where having the wrong
font (offensive to the other side) was almost the straw that broke the
camel's back. If you read Barbarians at the Gate there's a scene in
there about how a certain aroma of tobacco smoke in a smoke filled
room was deemed offensive. Imagine now sending a file in OO rather
than Office that breaks. Hell, that's cause for terminating a
negotiation even in the best of times, much less when people are on
the edge of their seat.

RL

On Apr 6, 11:39*pm, Richard Rasker wrote:

Not to mention the fact that only non-savvy idiots use an editable document
format to share information with outsiders, instead of PDF.


Or poor folks like you. In fact, most professionals insist on an
editable format document, so PDF is out by definition.

Go save some lives or do some of the superman things you claim to do
with Linux, Reichard.

RL

In comp.os.linux.advocacy RayLopez99 wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:37*pm, owl wrote:
In comp.os.linux.advocacy RayLopez99 wrote:

Can you define "complex"?

Easy. *Complex is a feature that your opponent in a negotiation has in
their word processing document, that you cannot reproduce because you
are using OO rather than Word.

Got it? *And that means you lose the negotiation, lose the sale, lose
the job, lose your job.

Could you outline a scenario where lack of a document feature would
cause loss of a negotiation, sale, or job?

Easy. But you're smart enough to do that owl.

I've been involved in multibillion dollar negotiations, teetering on a
knife edge (buyer/seller last minute remorse), where having the wrong
font (offensive to the other side) was almost the straw that broke the
camel's back. If you read Barbarians at the Gate there's a scene in
there about how a certain aroma of tobacco smoke in a smoke filled
room was deemed offensive. Imagine now sending a file in OO rather
than Office that breaks. Hell, that's cause for terminating a
negotiation even in the best of times, much less when people are on
the edge of their seat.


Sounds like people who don't want to do business with each other to me.

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On Apr 6, 10:37 pm, owl wrote:
In comp.os.linux.advocacy RayLopez99 wrote:

Can you define "complex"?

Easy. Complex is a feature that your opponent in a negotiation has in
their word processing document, that you cannot reproduce because you
are using OO rather than Word.

Got it? And that means you lose the negotiation, lose the sale, lose
the job, lose your job.

Could you outline a scenario where lack of a document feature would
cause loss of a negotiation, sale, or job?

Easy. But you're smart enough to do that owl.

I've been involved in multibillion dollar negotiations, teetering on a
knife edge (buyer/seller last minute remorse), where having the wrong
font (offensive to the other side) was almost the straw that broke the
camel's back. If you read Barbarians at the Gate there's a scene in
there about how a certain aroma of tobacco smoke in a smoke filled
room was deemed offensive. Imagine now sending a file in OO rather
than Office that breaks. Hell, that's cause for terminating a
negotiation even in the best of times, much less when people are on
the edge of their seat.

RL

You don't save the OO document as an .odt but you do a SaveAs a Word 97-2003
document. When that is done anything that is compatible with Word will be
saved. With the newest version of OO it will even handle most of the Word
2007 files.

Now if you are negotiating a multi-million dollar project I would think that
someone would get off of a few hundred dollars and purchase Office to ensure
compatibility.

On 4/6/2010 4:17 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:10 pm, wrote:
On 4/6/2010 3:59 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:

I've heard that Open Office is at best "99%" the same as Office Word,
but I'm concerned with it being 100%, since many of my Word documents
are complex.

Anybody have experience in OpenOffice with complex documents? Is it
true that somethings just won't translate properly to and from Office
Word?

Can you define "complex"?

Easy. Complex is a feature that your opponent in a negotiation has in
their word processing document, that you cannot reproduce because you
are using OO rather than Word.

Got it? And that means you lose the negotiation, lose the sale, lose
the job, lose your job.

RL

Well, what I meant was, what sort of formatting or font would cause that?

On 4/6/2010 4:37 PM, owl wrote:
In comp.os.linux.advocacy wrote:
On Apr 6, 10:10 pm, wrote:
On 4/6/2010 3:59 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:

I've heard that Open Office is at best "99%" the same as Office Word,
but I'm concerned with it being 100%, since many of my Word documents
are complex.

Anybody have experience in OpenOffice with complex documents? Is it
true that somethings just won't translate properly to and from Office
Word?

Can you define "complex"?

Easy. Complex is a feature that your opponent in a negotiation has in
their word processing document, that you cannot reproduce because you
are using OO rather than Word.

Got it? And that means you lose the negotiation, lose the sale, lose
the job, lose your job.


Could you outline a scenario where lack of a document feature would
cause loss of a negotiation, sale, or job?


Yes I too am wondering what specific thing would be missing that would
be so critical?

On 4/6/2010 4:46 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

It also helps in cross-pollination if you have the Windows fonts available.

To my mind, the professional thing to do is to ensure that your
documents are cross-compatible. After all, one doesn't always know whom
one is dealing with, does one?

If the program is needed by your business, then I suppose you can simply
write off the expense as a business expense, yes?

I am trying to picture exactly what sort of document a person must avoid
to avoid compatibility problems. I don't think that the solution is to
simply have everybody everywhere use Microsoft Office. Even the many
versions of Microsoft Office aren't 100% compatible with each other.

On 4/6/2010 6:03 PM, 7 wrote:

Open office is the only thing that now opens older
micoshaft format documents because micoshaft don't supply
any software that works.

That looks like a point for Open Office.

On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:08:58 -0700, RayLopez99 wrote:

On Apr 6, 10:37Â*pm, owl wrote:
In comp.os.linux.advocacy RayLopez99 wrote:

Can you define "complex"?

Easy. Â*Complex is a feature that your opponent in a negotiation has
in their word processing document, that you cannot reproduce because
you are using OO rather than Word.

Got it? Â*And that means you lose the negotiation, lose the sale, lose
the job, lose your job.

Could you outline a scenario where lack of a document feature would
cause loss of a negotiation, sale, or job?

Easy. But you're smart enough to do that owl.

I've been involved in multibillion dollar negotiations, teetering on a
knife edge (buyer/seller last minute remorse), where having the wrong
font (offensive to the other side) was almost the straw that broke the
camel's back. If you read Barbarians at the Gate there's a scene in
there about how a certain aroma of tobacco smoke in a smoke filled room
was deemed offensive. Imagine now sending a file in OO rather than
Office that breaks. Hell, that's cause for terminating a negotiation
even in the best of times, much less when people are on the edge of
their seat.

RL

You are mentally ill. Please seek help.



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Interesting, my experience is that OO changes colors and formatting, I
can create a spreadsheet in Excel 2007 shoot it off to a colleague and
when it returns the formatting and all of the color in the thing has
changed and looks like hell. I would not hand a spreadsheet to a client
in the shape it is returned to me from OO.

I can't comment on OO document formating compatibilty with Word though.
After seeing what it does with spreadsheets, I have no interest in
finding out if it can hold the formating of a complex document from
Word.

Oh and the colleague was not aware of the changes in formatting in the
spreadsheets. It seems the original formatting was never correctly
viewed by OO software.


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AndreaK