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Old May 26th, 2006, 06:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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Default I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!

I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious.

-- Keith

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Old May 26th, 2006, 06:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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Exactly my words...you can tell all that to "Brendan S" who claims that this
abomination is an improvment!

Keith and you are not alone... hundreds of thousands of MS users will hate
this GUI.

I think MS wants to commit financial suicide! Perhaps they want to give
linux a chance....


I see a lot of heads rolling over this design.... but there is still time to
improve it.... if they are smart.





"Keith" wrote in message
...
I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to
waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that
often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
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suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

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Old May 26th, 2006, 07:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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I sort of agree...it looks like clutter and eye sore...takes forever to weed
through the stuff...prefer the old tidier look. Took me a while to find the
regular file/open...should have been clear to see. really not user friendly

Less eye candy and more efficiency please.

Bill

"Keith" wrote in message
...
I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to
waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that
often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

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Old May 26th, 2006, 07:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Keith" wrote in message
...
I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to
waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that
often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

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Old May 26th, 2006, 07:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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I dont expect it will JoAnn.

But you know I remember when Firefox first hit the market and took off with
the excitement of tab browsing, I will never forget Steve Balmer saying who
needs tabbed browsing, there is no point to it, whats the purpose, its just
like another window(which was a silly remark) blah blah blah...well we know
how IE7 is playing catch up with a poor tab browsing feature as compared to
FF

In any event I am a long time user of MS products and my office XP pro is
still doing well, but it really gets frustrating that MS seems not to pay
attention and we get such autocratic responses most of the time..

But as they say add/remove still works and thankfully we had a beta to look
at :-)

Cheers
Bill



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
...
The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Keith" wrote in message
...
I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the
changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to
waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that
often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover
my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course
I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

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Old May 26th, 2006, 08:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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Default I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!

The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.

It will change with the first service pack of Office2007 after they realize
how stupid they were for doing this.



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
...
The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Keith" wrote in message
...
I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the
changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to
waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that
often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover
my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course
I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc





  #7  
Old May 26th, 2006, 08:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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Default I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!

I too am a long time user but there's no way I'd run the beta on my regular
system. I can't risk losing anything - not even if it is just long enough to
grab my back-up.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Bill" wrote in message
...
I dont expect it will JoAnn.

But you know I remember when Firefox first hit the market and took off
with the excitement of tab browsing, I will never forget Steve Balmer
saying who needs tabbed browsing, there is no point to it, whats the
purpose, its just like another window(which was a silly remark) blah blah
blah...well we know how IE7 is playing catch up with a poor tab browsing
feature as compared to FF

In any event I am a long time user of MS products and my office XP pro is
still doing well, but it really gets frustrating that MS seems not to pay
attention and we get such autocratic responses most of the time..

But as they say add/remove still works and thankfully we had a beta to
look at :-)

Cheers
Bill



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
...
The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Keith" wrote in message
...
I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the
changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to
waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that
often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover
my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course
I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available
screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't
obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc







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Old May 26th, 2006, 08:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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This is just the beta remember. I'm told that in future versions you will be
able to adjust the icon sizes within the ribbon so it will take up less real
estate.

I am struggling with learning where things are on the ribbon but do see some
of the logic behind it. The concept is to bring context sensitive menus
within easier reach.

I know lots of people that resisted the new default location for the reading
pane when they got Outlook 2003. Personally I can't imagine going back. I
suggest giving it some time and making yourself familiar with wehre things
are. For me the slow down in productivity is what drives a dislike for the
ribbon, but as I learn where to find things I find it is faster to get to
them than the traditional menus with sub menus and hence it is growing on me.

"Keith" wrote:

I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc

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Old May 26th, 2006, 09:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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Sorry, MS but I have a rule in my applications. Don't change the interface.
Office was fine the way it was. The only reason I can see for making such a
drastic change ? There was a competitor software with a similar UI. The UI
will work for first time users but tell me. How many of your customers are
first time office users ?? Give users the option -- its not going to kill
you guys. Make the option part of the install. This is beta TWO which
means, its pretty much in stone. If I am forced to accept the new UI, I
will stay with 2003.

"Mark D. MacLachlan" wrote:

This is just the beta remember. I'm told that in future versions you will be
able to adjust the icon sizes within the ribbon so it will take up less real
estate.

I am struggling with learning where things are on the ribbon but do see some
of the logic behind it. The concept is to bring context sensitive menus
within easier reach.

I know lots of people that resisted the new default location for the reading
pane when they got Outlook 2003. Personally I can't imagine going back. I
suggest giving it some time and making yourself familiar with wehre things
are. For me the slow down in productivity is what drives a dislike for the
ribbon, but as I learn where to find things I find it is faster to get to
them than the traditional menus with sub menus and hence it is growing on me.

"Keith" wrote:

I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc

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Old May 26th, 2006, 09:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.office.misc
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I wish that were true but it's not going to happen. The basic problem is
that there ware too many new and existing commands to fit within the "old"
menu styles.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"John Jay Smith" - wrote in message
...
The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.


It will change with the first service pack of Office2007 after they
realize how stupid they were for doing this.



"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
...
The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Keith" wrote in message
...
I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the
changes
I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and
perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to
waste
valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that
often
doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with
Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover
my
mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course
I
could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available
screen
real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't
obvious.

-- Keith

----------------
This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
"I
Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
this
link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
then
click "I Agree" in the message pane.

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