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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
When millions of dollars are at stake.. you bet that they will rewrite the
code! They wont go back to the old way, but they will make this horrible ribbon more configurable. "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message ... I wish that were true but it's not going to happen. The basic problem is that there ware too many new and existing commands to fit within the "old" menu styles. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "John Jay Smith" - wrote in message ... The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option. It will change with the first service pack of Office2007 after they realize how stupid they were for doing this. "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message ... The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Keith" wrote in message ... I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious. -- Keith ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
I will stay with 2003.
you will not be alone.. 2007 will be a lesson to MS to not play bad tricks with the interfaces..... they can do what they want with functions and features .. but these horrible GUI ideas seems to come from someone who is too dumb to eat pretzels! "MARKINRO" wrote in message ... Sorry, MS but I have a rule in my applications. Don't change the interface. Office was fine the way it was. The only reason I can see for making such a drastic change ? There was a competitor software with a similar UI. The UI will work for first time users but tell me. How many of your customers are first time office users ?? Give users the option -- its not going to kill you guys. Make the option part of the install. This is beta TWO which means, its pretty much in stone. If I am forced to accept the new UI, I will stay with 2003. "Mark D. MacLachlan" wrote: This is just the beta remember. I'm told that in future versions you will be able to adjust the icon sizes within the ribbon so it will take up less real estate. I am struggling with learning where things are on the ribbon but do see some of the logic behind it. The concept is to bring context sensitive menus within easier reach. I know lots of people that resisted the new default location for the reading pane when they got Outlook 2003. Personally I can't imagine going back. I suggest giving it some time and making yourself familiar with wehre things are. For me the slow down in productivity is what drives a dislike for the ribbon, but as I learn where to find things I find it is faster to get to them than the traditional menus with sub menus and hence it is growing on me. "Keith" wrote: I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious. -- Keith ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
I didn't like at first, but in the Grey Vista color option it works, hated
the pale Blue look. Robert |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
If you double-click on the title of the ribbon, it will hide - then a
single-click on any of the titles will show that ribbon. Larry "Keith" wrote in message ... I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious. -- Keith ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
Hi Markinro,
Don't forget to use Microsoft's feedback tool for the 2007 Office system (send-a-smile/frown) to send feedback directly to Microsoft. http://sas.office.microsoft.com For background data, design information, questions and discussion on the User Interface (UI) you may also want to visit the Office UI team blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh ========= "MARKINRO" wrote in message ... Sorry, MS but I have a rule in my applications. Don't change the interface. Office was fine the way it was. The only reason I can see for making such a drastic change ? There was a competitor software with a similar UI. The UI will work for first time users but tell me. How many of your customers are first time office users ?? Give users the option -- its not going to kill you guys. Make the option part of the install. This is beta TWO which means, its pretty much in stone. If I am forced to accept the new UI, I will stay with 2003. -- I hope this helped you, Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends Read about it, try it, or watch the movie the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at http://microsoft.com/office/preview Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2? Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures) http://sas.office.microsoft.com/ |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
I believe you are incorrect, hundreds of thousands of MS users will NOT hate
the UI, the UI is very intuitive and easy to use so WHY should so many users hate it? This will not cause MS to commit financial suicide, no more than the release of Office 2003 did! Do you just have a problem with things that are different or something? "John Jay Smith" wrote: Exactly my words...you can tell all that to "Brendan S" who claims that this abomination is an improvment! Keith and you are not alone... hundreds of thousands of MS users will hate this GUI. I think MS wants to commit financial suicide! Perhaps they want to give linux a chance.... I see a lot of heads rolling over this design.... but there is still time to improve it.... if they are smart. "Keith" wrote in message ... I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious. -- Keith ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
You Sir are INCORRECT, the UI of Office 2007 is here to stay and I for one
applaud that! "John Jay Smith" wrote: The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option. It will change with the first service pack of Office2007 after they realize how stupid they were for doing this. "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message ... The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Keith" wrote in message ... I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious. -- Keith ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
There is an easy option for those who do not like change......do not upgrade!
It's so easy. Personally I am happy to see that Microsoft is finally making an innovative change to something that really hasn't changed in like 15 years. "Keith" wrote: I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious. -- Keith ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
Although I cannot see an easy way to customise the ribbon, you can right
click on an item in the ribbon and choose "Add to Quick Access toolbar". There are other ways, going into Word options (click on the office logo). You can minimise the ribbon by pressing the Ctrl key and F1 or double clicking on one of the tabs. Personally I think the new UI is such a massive improvement, I have found it easy to use straight away. A quick glance through each of the tabs was all I needed. I appreciate others are finding it not an improvement. If you need guidance on how to find something or achieve something with the new ribbon, then I am sure you will be able to get advice on that if you ask. Andy "Keith" wrote: I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious. -- Keith ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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I hate the ribbon -- bring the menus back!
I assume then, that you will be happy to refund me the wasted hours I have
already spent with this atrocious interface, or to buy the useless box labelled "Office 2007 Pro Upgrade" that just bounced off the office garbage bin, where I threw it in frustration. No? Sir or Madam. Will you take the personal liability for your statements. Either you must stop telling people that the new interface is great, incurring a huge waste of their time and money, or YOU pay for that investment. Are you willing to? I expect not. Office 2007 does not provide a smooth interface upgrade and a radical learning curve is required. Even if you defeat this, the extra menu steps and lack of customization only results in long-term longer times to access the commands previously put on a customized toolbar or menu. IT professionals are refusing to install the file compatibility add-in to older software 9untested, possible virus issues etc.). So now I have to save everything in the old format, taking extra keystrokes and time each time, plus getting rid of annoying pop-ups from MS selling the new format's "advantages." Don't mention that Excel crashes every time, and Outlook is too slow to load. That's minor. I have 17 years invested in kowing how to make office hop. Now I have to relearn. Whatever the benefits might be in the new interface they are FAR exceeded by my 17 year investment. Microsoft forgot that. Seriously bad move. It gets unloaded today but MS gained an evangelist: I'm telling everyone I can not to upgrade. It's cheaper to avoid wasting time and throw out Office 2007 than to keep using it. Piece of time-wastng junk. "GABTGURL" wrote: You Sir are INCORRECT, the UI of Office 2007 is here to stay and I for one applaud that! "John Jay Smith" wrote: The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option. It will change with the first service pack of Office2007 after they realize how stupid they were for doing this. "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message ... The ribbon will not change, nor is there a "classic" view option. -- JoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] "Keith" wrote in message ... I am a first-time Office 2007 user, and as such, I hate some of the changes I'm seeing. Perhaps that's a normal first reaction to Office 2007, and perhaps I'll grow to prefer it. But for now, it appears I'm forced to waste valuable screen real estate staring at the outrageous ribbon bar that often doesn't even have the functionality that I'm looking for. At least with Office 2003 with its regular menus I could click on one entry and hover my mouse around the others until I find what I'm looking for. And of course I could customize the toolbars to my liking, maximizing my available screen real estate. If I can do with the the ribbon, then it just isn't obvious. -- Keith ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ic.office.misc |
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