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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
One trick to getting & keeping stable tables is to avoid setting font
characteristics in a table style. Use paragraph styles instead. Many technical documents have lots of tables that are quite different from each other and that require a lot of manual formatting. Table styles are great for quickly formatting them. But table style text settings tend to override manual formatting and paragraph styles. (Or the conflicting setting confuse Word.) Your best bet is to start fresh. Clear all formatting and then apply the unmodified table grid style. Create a new table style that is based on table grid and that does not have text formatting specified (font, size, color, horizontal alignment, etc.). Create your table paragraph styles. Three is often enough: table heading, table text, and table bullet. Now apply your new table style and table text paragraph style to the whole table, then apply the table heading and bullet styles appropriately. HTH, PamC C1ER wrote: Reapplying the table style doesn't work, either, unfortunately. Thanks for the article - this is helpful, and now I know I'm not crazy. I think we'll just go with the table style and accept the black text. Thanks for all your help! If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does that make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and then [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] help. TIA! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ables/200807/1 |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than
changing the font properties for the table style. And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText approach that I described in a previous message. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "PamC via OfficeKB.com" u43222@uwe wrote in message news:87f35714dd237@uwe... One trick to getting & keeping stable tables is to avoid setting font characteristics in a table style. Use paragraph styles instead. Many technical documents have lots of tables that are quite different from each other and that require a lot of manual formatting. Table styles are great for quickly formatting them. But table style text settings tend to override manual formatting and paragraph styles. (Or the conflicting setting confuse Word.) Your best bet is to start fresh. Clear all formatting and then apply the unmodified table grid style. Create a new table style that is based on table grid and that does not have text formatting specified (font, size, color, horizontal alignment, etc.). Create your table paragraph styles. Three is often enough: table heading, table text, and table bullet. Now apply your new table style and table text paragraph style to the whole table, then apply the table heading and bullet styles appropriately. HTH, PamC C1ER wrote: Reapplying the table style doesn't work, either, unfortunately. Thanks for the article - this is helpful, and now I know I'm not crazy. I think we'll just go with the table style and accept the black text. Thanks for all your help! If you *reapply* the copied table style to the relevant table(s), does that make a difference? You can use Ctrl+Alt+U to clear the formatting and then [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] help. TIA! -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ables/200807/1 |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
That's not the way I use table styles.
Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles on top? Regards, Klaus "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than changing the font properties for the table style. And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText approach that I described in a previous message. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
I guess I'm saying that since table styles are there (you cannot get rid of
them since each table has one applied) you might as well apply the settings that make sense (such as borders and shading) and leave the ones that don't (paragraph and font formatting) to paragraph styles. Personally I don't work them like that, however. Instead, I make use of AutoText if I need many tables in a document, and I use paragraph styles to format cell contents (see also the article at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Klaus Linke" wrote in message ... That's not the way I use table styles. Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles on top? Regards, Klaus "Stefan Blom" wrote: Indeed, using paragraph styles to format the text in cells is better than changing the font properties for the table style. And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText approach that I described in a previous message. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP |
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Font color won't change in header row of my Table style
I use table styles a great deal. I don't use auto text because I don't
create tables, I edit or format them. Usually no two tables are a like when it comes to the number of columns and rows, column widths. and column alignment. When they were first introduced, I quickly abandoned tables styles when I found that I could not have one column aligned on the decimal point without affecting the alignment of other columns and that the table font could not be made smaller than Normal (that may have changed--a lot of people fussed about it and refused to use table styles because of it). Instead I created paragraph styles for tables and manually applied setting to each one. Most of the formatters I've met do the same thing. About 10 months ago I read a book by Stephanie Krieger who recommended most of the methods I now use with table styles. The very next week I amazed myself with how quickly I got through about 20 tables from three different proposals, four different excel files, and from various Word files where the writers had gone wild with the colors and fonts. I had more time to look at content issues in the tables. My client was also pleased. I carry with me on my thumb drive a simple table style along with my editing add-on templates. But usually I create a custom table style with the rest of the template for a job. Stefan Blom wrote: I guess I'm saying that since table styles are there (you cannot get rid of them since each table has one applied) you might as well apply the settings that make sense (such as borders and shading) and leave the ones that don't (paragraph and font formatting) to paragraph styles. Personally I don't work them like that, however. Instead, I make use of AutoText if I need many tables in a document, and I use paragraph styles to format cell contents (see also the article at http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/tablestyles/index.html). That's not the way I use table styles. Why bother with table styles at all, if you have to apply paragraph styles [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] And, of course, the approach can be successfully combined with the AutoText approach that I described in a previous message. -- Message posted via OfficeKB.com http://www.officekb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...ables/200808/1 |
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