how do i enable the old menu bar

This is addressed to the folks who have created the 3rd-party add-ins to
restore the menu/toolbar functionality of Word 2000/2003.

Does your add-in allow for the creation of custom menus??

I'm currently using Word 2000 and have a customized menu setup for all the
various legal documents/pleadings I use everyday, with various sub-menus for
motions, notices, orders, objections and so forth as well as documents used
solely within our office.

It works off of one menu button with a number of items, each of which opens
onto several cascading sub-menus of individual documents (most all of which
are merge documents, if that matters). It's ridiculously easy to use:
1. click the menu button
2. mouse-over to what you want to open
3. click that document name.

For me to use your product, and recommend it to the rest of the firm (since
I'm the one who sets all this stuff up on individual machines), I need to be
able to add/remove individual items as necessary.

A speedy response would be GREATLY welcome, as I'd rather not *have* to add
Office 2000 on our pre-installed Office 2007 machines.

Thanks for your time.

Hi Legalbear,

FWIW, the MS hosted discussion groups are generally peer support rather than MS support.

If you have a template with your custom toolbar(s) (not modifications to Word's built in toolbars) and you load that template as a
global template under Word 2007 either by placing it in the startup folder for Word or using the template dialog (Alt, T, I) your
toolbar choices, although looking a bit different as far as layout) will appear in an 'Add-Ins' tab on the ribbon. You can modify
your template through an older version of Word to change the choices, but you won't be able to change the choices in the 'Add-Ins'
tab as shown.

One of the 3rd party add-ins, http://toolbartoggle.com does allow a bit more flexibility in using and modifying floating menus.

Customization of the ribbon is also possible with a bit of a learning curve in XML.

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"Legalbear" wrote in message ...
This is addressed to the folks who have created the 3rd-party add-ins to
restore the menu/toolbar functionality of Word 2000/2003.

Does your add-in allow for the creation of custom menus??

I'm currently using Word 2000 and have a customized menu setup for all the
various legal documents/pleadings I use everyday, with various sub-menus for
motions, notices, orders, objections and so forth as well as documents used
solely within our office.

It works off of one menu button with a number of items, each of which opens
onto several cascading sub-menus of individual documents (most all of which
are merge documents, if that matters). It's ridiculously easy to use:
1. click the menu button
2. mouse-over to what you want to open
3. click that document name.

For me to use your product, and recommend it to the rest of the firm (since
I'm the one who sets all this stuff up on individual machines), I need to be
able to add/remove individual items as necessary.

A speedy response would be GREATLY welcome, as I'd rather not *have* to add
Office 2000 on our pre-installed Office 2007 machines.

Thanks for your time.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Note, however, that Legalbear was addressing not Microsoft but those who
have created third-party add-ins for Word/Office 2007. Not that they post
here, either.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote
in message ...
Hi Legalbear,

FWIW, the MS hosted discussion groups are generally peer support rather
than MS support.

If you have a template with your custom toolbar(s) (not modifications to
Word's built in toolbars) and you load that template as a
global template under Word 2007 either by placing it in the startup folder
for Word or using the template dialog (Alt, T, I) your
toolbar choices, although looking a bit different as far as layout) will
appear in an 'Add-Ins' tab on the ribbon. You can modify
your template through an older version of Word to change the choices, but
you won't be able to change the choices in the 'Add-Ins'
tab as shown.

One of the 3rd party add-ins, http://toolbartoggle.com does allow a bit
more flexibility in using and modifying floating menus.

Customization of the ribbon is also possible with a bit of a learning
curve in XML.

=============
"Legalbear" wrote in message
...
This is addressed to the folks who have created the 3rd-party add-ins to
restore the menu/toolbar functionality of Word 2000/2003.

Does your add-in allow for the creation of custom menus??

I'm currently using Word 2000 and have a customized menu setup for all the
various legal documents/pleadings I use everyday, with various sub-menus
for
motions, notices, orders, objections and so forth as well as documents
used
solely within our office.

It works off of one menu button with a number of items, each of which
opens
onto several cascading sub-menus of individual documents (most all of
which
are merge documents, if that matters). It's ridiculously easy to use:
1. click the menu button
2. mouse-over to what you want to open
3. click that document name.

For me to use your product, and recommend it to the rest of the firm
(since
I'm the one who sets all this stuff up on individual machines), I need to
be
able to add/remove individual items as necessary.

A speedy response would be GREATLY welcome, as I'd rather not *have* to
add
Office 2000 on our pre-installed Office 2007 machines.

Thanks for your time.
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Let's get down to the truth.

Microsoft knew this was going to be a BIG problem with their installed user
base. All their efforts to play this change up validate that assumption.

However, Microsoft has a huge incentive to force the userbase to use the
ribbon. They have legal protection on the ribbon desgin and are in fact
licensing it to other companies. If they get all Office users to adapt to
this new format, there is a huge payoff for Microsoft.

They don't really care about how easy the program is for you to use. They
care about their stock options!

My two cents.

"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

LegalBear:

Put your custom menu on a custom Toolbar in Word 2000. Attach the toolbar to
a document, any doument, and save it. Open the document in Word 2007 and your
custom toolbar that includes your custom menu will appear on the Add-Ins tab
of the ribbon. Right-click on the custom toolbar and choose to add it to the
Quick Access Toolbar. Now you will have easy access to it 100% of the time in
all documents. If you have several custom toolbars, you can add the entire
Custom Toolbars group to the QAT for nested access.

The ribbon will improve your productivity so much that it pays for itself in
the first month. I will be playing golf this afternoon while the rest of you
are still fooling around creating documents with the old toolbar
interface.The ribbon is a far better approach, much better organized, and
easier to use.

HTH,

=Mac=


"Legalbear" wrote:

This is addressed to the folks who have created the 3rd-party add-ins to
restore the menu/toolbar functionality of Word 2000/2003.

Does your add-in allow for the creation of custom menus??

I'm currently using Word 2000 and have a customized menu setup for all the
various legal documents/pleadings I use everyday, with various sub-menus for
motions, notices, orders, objections and so forth as well as documents used
solely within our office.

It works off of one menu button with a number of items, each of which opens
onto several cascading sub-menus of individual documents (most all of which
are merge documents, if that matters). It's ridiculously easy to use:
1. click the menu button
2. mouse-over to what you want to open
3. click that document name.

For me to use your product, and recommend it to the rest of the firm (since
I'm the one who sets all this stuff up on individual machines), I need to be
able to add/remove individual items as necessary.

A speedy response would be GREATLY welcome, as I'd rather not *have* to add
Office 2000 on our pre-installed Office 2007 machines.

Thanks for your time.

Hey everybody. I found this message board because I am trying to turn ON the
ribbon for Outlook 2007. I've been using the ribbon for Excel 2007 for a
couple months now and I like it, but for some reason, when I upgraded it
didn't give me the ribbon for Outlook. This makes me think there IS a way to
turn it on and off. I've looked everywhere for a way to turn it on, but right
now I still have the File, Edit, etc menu's in Outlook 2007 and no ribbon.
Help!

"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

Kim:

Sorry to break your heart, but there is NO RIBBON for the UI in Outlook
2007, except in the message editor. Start a new message or reply to one and
you will see the Ribbon. Other than that, the ribbon is NOT part of the
Outlook interface.

HTH,

=Mac=


"Kim" wrote:

Hey everybody. I found this message board because I am trying to turn ON the
ribbon for Outlook 2007. I've been using the ribbon for Excel 2007 for a
couple months now and I like it, but for some reason, when I upgraded it
didn't give me the ribbon for Outlook. This makes me think there IS a way to
turn it on and off. I've looked everywhere for a way to turn it on, but right
now I still have the File, Edit, etc menu's in Outlook 2007 and no ribbon.
Help!

"Tom B" wrote:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

I have Office 07, installed from CD right out of the box. But I have only
the raditional menu bar and tool bar, NOT the Office button and not the
Ribbon. I know that this format/view supposedly does not exist in 07, but
this is what I have. Any thoughts on how to find/turn on the ribbon?



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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http://pschmid.net
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007 will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be retrained.

It appears that whatever CD was in the box was not Office 2007. Since you
have a traditional menu bar, go to Help | About Microsoft Word. What is the
version number given?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave in Chicago" Dave in wrote in
message ...
I have Office 07, installed from CD right out of the box. But I have only
the raditional menu bar and tool bar, NOT the Office button and not the
Ribbon. I know that this format/view supposedly does not exist in 07, but
this is what I have. Any thoughts on how to find/turn on the ribbon?



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.

Thanks for your reply; I also am confounded. Following is what is on my
"About" windos: MSO Outlook 2007 (12.0.6316.5000) SP 1 MSO (12.0.6320.5000)

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

It appears that whatever CD was in the box was not Office 2007. Since you
have a traditional menu bar, go to Help | About Microsoft Word. What is the
version number given?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Dave in Chicago" Dave in wrote in
message ...
I have Office 07, installed from CD right out of the box. But I have only
the raditional menu bar and tool bar, NOT the Office button and not the
Ribbon. I know that this format/view supposedly does not exist in 07, but
this is what I have. Any thoughts on how to find/turn on the ribbon?



"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote:

There is no old menu bar in Office 2007. Your employees will have to
learn the Ribbon UI if you upgrade to 2007.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Tom B" wrote in message
:

How do we turn on the old menu bar in word 2007? Without it office 2007
will
cost far to much to implement because employee's will need to be
retrained.