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  #1  
Old September 11th, 2008, 05:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Scott Burke
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Posts: 36
Default Pull down list empty but not empty.

I have a field that has a lookup at the table lievel.

Normaly when you clidk in the field you see a list:
List : EmpIN, Fname, Lname
Emplyoee Init, First name, Last Name

Every once in a while the pull donw list does NOT show a list BUT there is a
list in the pull down box. You can even select an iteam in the list. Of
course you dont know what you are selecting.

Most of the time Compact / repair fixes this but not this time.

Anyone else have this problem?

Scott Byrke
  #2  
Old September 11th, 2008, 09:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Duane Hookom
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Default Pull down list empty but not empty.

IMHO, don't ever use lookup fields in tables
http://www.mvps.org/access/lookupfields.htm.

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


"Scott Burke" wrote:

I have a field that has a lookup at the table lievel.

Normaly when you clidk in the field you see a list:
List : EmpIN, Fname, Lname
Emplyoee Init, First name, Last Name

Every once in a while the pull donw list does NOT show a list BUT there is a
list in the pull down box. You can even select an iteam in the list. Of
course you dont know what you are selecting.

Most of the time Compact / repair fixes this but not this time.

Anyone else have this problem?

Scott Byrke

  #3  
Old September 12th, 2008, 09:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Scott Burke
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Posts: 36
Default Pull down list empty but not empty.

Personaly. I agree.
I am maintaining a program that someone else wrote.

Scott Burke


"Duane Hookom" wrote:

IMHO, don't ever use lookup fields in tables
http://www.mvps.org/access/lookupfields.htm.

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


"Scott Burke" wrote:

I have a field that has a lookup at the table lievel.

Normaly when you clidk in the field you see a list:
List : EmpIN, Fname, Lname
Emplyoee Init, First name, Last Name

Every once in a while the pull donw list does NOT show a list BUT there is a
list in the pull down box. You can even select an iteam in the list. Of
course you dont know what you are selecting.

Most of the time Compact / repair fixes this but not this time.

Anyone else have this problem?

Scott Byrke

  #4  
Old September 12th, 2008, 11:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Larry Daugherty
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Default Pull down list empty but not empty.

Duane gave you a good reference for not using Lookup Fields in tables.
If you google on "John W. Vinson" and "Lookup" you may find his
concise algorithm for remediating those fields. Do it now and save
yourself tons of grief later.

Competent developers usually end up supporting their own creations so
long as they remain with that employer or client. The fact that
you're supporting that thing developed by someone else suggests that
s/he is not competent or is gone. Likely it's yours forever so you'll
get the best mileage by fixing it now. Explain to whomever in
management you need that you must do it now and that you must fix
everything that was built atop those tables before you can go ahead.

HTH
--
-Larry-
--

"Scott Burke" wrote in message
...
Personaly. I agree.
I am maintaining a program that someone else wrote.

Scott Burke


"Duane Hookom" wrote:

IMHO, don't ever use lookup fields in tables
http://www.mvps.org/access/lookupfields.htm.

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


"Scott Burke" wrote:

I have a field that has a lookup at the table lievel.

Normaly when you clidk in the field you see a list:
List : EmpIN, Fname, Lname
Emplyoee Init, First name, Last Name

Every once in a while the pull donw list does NOT show a list

BUT there is a
list in the pull down box. You can even select an iteam in the

list. Of
course you dont know what you are selecting.

Most of the time Compact / repair fixes this but not this time.

Anyone else have this problem?

Scott Byrke



  #5  
Old September 15th, 2008, 02:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Scott Burke
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Posts: 36
Default Pull down list empty but not empty.

Hi Larry,
I agree with you on every level. By luck this software is going
to be replaced by Oct 1. Rebuild is not worth the time. I was wondering if
this is a common problem with Access or did I find a bug M$ decied not to
deal with?

Scott Burke

"Larry Daugherty" wrote:

Duane gave you a good reference for not using Lookup Fields in tables.
If you google on "John W. Vinson" and "Lookup" you may find his
concise algorithm for remediating those fields. Do it now and save
yourself tons of grief later.

Competent developers usually end up supporting their own creations so
long as they remain with that employer or client. The fact that
you're supporting that thing developed by someone else suggests that
s/he is not competent or is gone. Likely it's yours forever so you'll
get the best mileage by fixing it now. Explain to whomever in
management you need that you must do it now and that you must fix
everything that was built atop those tables before you can go ahead.

HTH
--
-Larry-
--

"Scott Burke" wrote in message
...
Personaly. I agree.
I am maintaining a program that someone else wrote.

Scott Burke


"Duane Hookom" wrote:

IMHO, don't ever use lookup fields in tables
http://www.mvps.org/access/lookupfields.htm.

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


"Scott Burke" wrote:

I have a field that has a lookup at the table lievel.

Normaly when you clidk in the field you see a list:
List : EmpIN, Fname, Lname
Emplyoee Init, First name, Last Name

Every once in a while the pull donw list does NOT show a list

BUT there is a
list in the pull down box. You can even select an iteam in the

list. Of
course you dont know what you are selecting.

Most of the time Compact / repair fixes this but not this time.

Anyone else have this problem?

Scott Byrke




  #6  
Old September 16th, 2008, 07:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Curis[_2_]
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Posts: 23
Default Pull down list empty but not empty.

Did you try compacting a repairing the database?

Before I saw the light with regard to the evils of lookup fields, I came
across similar problems. Usually, a quick C&R did the trick.

- Jeff

"Scott Burke" wrote:

Hi Larry,
I agree with you on every level. By luck this software is going
to be replaced by Oct 1. Rebuild is not worth the time. I was wondering if
this is a common problem with Access or did I find a bug M$ decied not to
deal with?

Scott Burke

"Larry Daugherty" wrote:

Duane gave you a good reference for not using Lookup Fields in tables.
If you google on "John W. Vinson" and "Lookup" you may find his
concise algorithm for remediating those fields. Do it now and save
yourself tons of grief later.

Competent developers usually end up supporting their own creations so
long as they remain with that employer or client. The fact that
you're supporting that thing developed by someone else suggests that
s/he is not competent or is gone. Likely it's yours forever so you'll
get the best mileage by fixing it now. Explain to whomever in
management you need that you must do it now and that you must fix
everything that was built atop those tables before you can go ahead.

HTH
--
-Larry-
--

"Scott Burke" wrote in message
...
Personaly. I agree.
I am maintaining a program that someone else wrote.

Scott Burke


"Duane Hookom" wrote:

IMHO, don't ever use lookup fields in tables
http://www.mvps.org/access/lookupfields.htm.

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


"Scott Burke" wrote:

I have a field that has a lookup at the table lievel.

Normaly when you clidk in the field you see a list:
List : EmpIN, Fname, Lname
Emplyoee Init, First name, Last Name

Every once in a while the pull donw list does NOT show a list

BUT there is a
list in the pull down box. You can even select an iteam in the

list. Of
course you dont know what you are selecting.

Most of the time Compact / repair fixes this but not this time.

Anyone else have this problem?

Scott Byrke




  #7  
Old September 18th, 2008, 09:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Scott Burke
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Posts: 36
Default Pull down list empty but not empty.

Hi Curis,
This time C&R worked. The last time it did not work. Had to
restore from tape. Lost 1 day worth of work.

Scott Burke

"Curis" wrote:

Did you try compacting a repairing the database?

Before I saw the light with regard to the evils of lookup fields, I came
across similar problems. Usually, a quick C&R did the trick.

- Jeff

"Scott Burke" wrote:

Hi Larry,
I agree with you on every level. By luck this software is going
to be replaced by Oct 1. Rebuild is not worth the time. I was wondering if
this is a common problem with Access or did I find a bug M$ decied not to
deal with?

Scott Burke

"Larry Daugherty" wrote:

Duane gave you a good reference for not using Lookup Fields in tables.
If you google on "John W. Vinson" and "Lookup" you may find his
concise algorithm for remediating those fields. Do it now and save
yourself tons of grief later.

Competent developers usually end up supporting their own creations so
long as they remain with that employer or client. The fact that
you're supporting that thing developed by someone else suggests that
s/he is not competent or is gone. Likely it's yours forever so you'll
get the best mileage by fixing it now. Explain to whomever in
management you need that you must do it now and that you must fix
everything that was built atop those tables before you can go ahead.

HTH
--
-Larry-
--

"Scott Burke" wrote in message
...
Personaly. I agree.
I am maintaining a program that someone else wrote.

Scott Burke


"Duane Hookom" wrote:

IMHO, don't ever use lookup fields in tables
http://www.mvps.org/access/lookupfields.htm.

--
Duane Hookom
Microsoft Access MVP


"Scott Burke" wrote:

I have a field that has a lookup at the table lievel.

Normaly when you clidk in the field you see a list:
List : EmpIN, Fname, Lname
Emplyoee Init, First name, Last Name

Every once in a while the pull donw list does NOT show a list
BUT there is a
list in the pull down box. You can even select an iteam in the
list. Of
course you dont know what you are selecting.

Most of the time Compact / repair fixes this but not this time.

Anyone else have this problem?

Scott Byrke



 




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