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  #11  
Old July 24th, 2009, 08:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Gina Whipp
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Posts: 3,500
Default Table/Forms Design Question

Not stalking... not sure where you get that from. Here I am here now and I
see you provided the tables I would thank you but you would probably find a
way to twist that around...

--
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II

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"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
You are too busy to answer the OP but not to busy to stalk me! Go
figure???

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
I am a little busy right now BUT if no one gets back to you by the time I
get UNbusy I will review your tables.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type Table
so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to get
the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys to
fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted by
the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data table
when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this. I
took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me better.
(Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers
etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers,
#ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating
Foreman,Workman &
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has different
Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of worker)
in a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All names
for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row. I
can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be able
to view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to
make it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I am
looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name each
workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I cant. I
can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change
the values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]







  #12  
Old July 24th, 2009, 08:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Damian
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Posts: 141
Default Table/Forms Design Question

Great advice. I renamed the tables and I think You are right. It will avoid
confusion.
So far I have this:
( http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1...ellsample2.png )
Image for easier view and review.

What my goal is:
To create a form for a user which has Defined fields for WorkerType,
Underneeth Worker Name, and across CrewName all there because there are only
handfull of guys for each WorkerType.

The User will input only a number of CrewName he/she had for that day.. So
if WorkenName had 1 Formen, 2 Workers and 4 Laborers under him/her. She would
only enter 1 , 2 , 4 under her row for each CrewName. Then have fields for
totaling each thing automatically. Is this all passible with a form or do I
have to do the totals as a querie and then create a summary report?

Am I making sense? The first excell image I think explains it very nice what
I mean.

Thanks Guys for helping me with this.

"Steve" wrote:

Hello Damian,

Your tables are still incorrect. To start, how about for clarity naming the
people Workers. The naming a group of workers Crew.

TblWorkerType
WorkerTypeID
WorkerType

TblWorker
WorkerID
WorkerFName
WorkerLName
WorkerTypeID

TblCrew
CrewID
CrewName for identifying different crews

TblCrewWorker
CrewWorkerID
CrewID
WorkerID

You can count the types of workers in a crew in a totals query that includes
all the above tables on the fly.


Steve




"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type Table so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to get
the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys to
fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted by
the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data table
when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this. I
took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me better.
(Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers, #ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating Foreman,Workman
&
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has different
Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of worker) in
a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All names
for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row. I
can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be able to
view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to make
it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I am
looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name each
workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I cant. I
can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change the
values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]




  #13  
Old July 24th, 2009, 09:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Damian
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Posts: 141
Default Table/Forms Design Question

Here are my Relationships so far
( http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4...ellsample3.png )
I had to change few fields in tables from "text" to "number" in order to
link them. You probably know that.

In order to to the totals should TblWorkerCrew be linked to TblWorker Type?
So these 3 fields will be together in a form I would create for a user? or
its not necessary?

Thanks



"Damian" wrote:

Great advice. I renamed the tables and I think You are right. It will avoid
confusion.
So far I have this:
( http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1...ellsample2.png )
Image for easier view and review.

What my goal is:
To create a form for a user which has Defined fields for WorkerType,
Underneeth Worker Name, and across CrewName all there because there are only
handfull of guys for each WorkerType.

The User will input only a number of CrewName he/she had for that day.. So
if WorkenName had 1 Formen, 2 Workers and 4 Laborers under him/her. She would
only enter 1 , 2 , 4 under her row for each CrewName. Then have fields for
totaling each thing automatically. Is this all passible with a form or do I
have to do the totals as a querie and then create a summary report?

Am I making sense? The first excell image I think explains it very nice what
I mean.

Thanks Guys for helping me with this.

"Steve" wrote:

Hello Damian,

Your tables are still incorrect. To start, how about for clarity naming the
people Workers. The naming a group of workers Crew.

TblWorkerType
WorkerTypeID
WorkerType

TblWorker
WorkerID
WorkerFName
WorkerLName
WorkerTypeID

TblCrew
CrewID
CrewName for identifying different crews

TblCrewWorker
CrewWorkerID
CrewID
WorkerID

You can count the types of workers in a crew in a totals query that includes
all the above tables on the fly.


Steve




"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type Table so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to get
the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys to
fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted by
the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data table
when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this. I
took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me better.
(Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers, #ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating Foreman,Workman
&
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has different
Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of worker) in
a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All names
for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row. I
can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be able to
view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to make
it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I am
looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name each
workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I cant. I
can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change the
values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]




  #14  
Old July 24th, 2009, 09:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Steve[_72_]
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Posts: 190
Default Table/Forms Design Question

It certainly is stalking when you track my responses to OPs and interject
false statements. Stalking is a criminal act!!!

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Not stalking... not sure where you get that from. Here I am here now and
I see you provided the tables I would thank you but you would probably
find a way to twist that around...

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
You are too busy to answer the OP but not to busy to stalk me! Go
figure???

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
I am a little busy right now BUT if no one gets back to you by the time I
get UNbusy I will review your tables.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type Table
so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to
get the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys to
fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted by
the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data table
when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this. I
took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me
better. (Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers
etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers,
#ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating
Foreman,Workman &
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has different
Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of worker)
in a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All names
for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row. I
can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be able
to view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to
make it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I am
looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name each
workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I cant.
I can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change
the values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]









  #15  
Old July 24th, 2009, 10:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Steve[_72_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 190
Default Table/Forms Design Question

You added more to the description of your database and now It seems you need
to modify your tables again! Consider:

TblForeman
ForemanID
ForemanFName
ForemanLName
other foreman fields you might need

TblDailyJob
DailyJobID
DailyJobDate
DailyJobDescription
ForemanID
other job fields you might need

TblDailyJobWorker
DailyJobWorkerID
DailyJobID
WorkerID

Keep previous TblWorkerType and TblWorker. Delete TblCrew and TblCrewWorker.
You can get the names in a "crew" by getting all the workers on a specific
daily job.

Steve


"Damian" wrote in message
...
Great advice. I renamed the tables and I think You are right. It will
avoid
confusion.
So far I have this:
( http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1...ellsample2.png )
Image for easier view and review.

What my goal is:
To create a form for a user which has Defined fields for WorkerType,
Underneeth Worker Name, and across CrewName all there because there are
only
handfull of guys for each WorkerType.

The User will input only a number of CrewName he/she had for that day.. So
if WorkenName had 1 Formen, 2 Workers and 4 Laborers under him/her. She
would
only enter 1 , 2 , 4 under her row for each CrewName. Then have fields for
totaling each thing automatically. Is this all passible with a form or do
I
have to do the totals as a querie and then create a summary report?

Am I making sense? The first excell image I think explains it very nice
what
I mean.

Thanks Guys for helping me with this.

"Steve" wrote:

Hello Damian,

Your tables are still incorrect. To start, how about for clarity naming
the
people Workers. The naming a group of workers Crew.

TblWorkerType
WorkerTypeID
WorkerType

TblWorker
WorkerID
WorkerFName
WorkerLName
WorkerTypeID

TblCrew
CrewID
CrewName for identifying different crews

TblCrewWorker
CrewWorkerID
CrewID
WorkerID

You can count the types of workers in a crew in a totals query that
includes
all the above tables on the fly.


Steve




"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type Table
so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to
get
the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys to
fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted by
the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data table
when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this. I
took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me
better.
(Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers
etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers,
#ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating
Foreman,Workman
&
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has different
Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of worker)
in
a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All names
for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row. I
can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be able
to
view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to
make
it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I am
looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name each
workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I cant.
I
can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change
the
values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]






  #16  
Old July 24th, 2009, 10:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Gina Whipp
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,500
Default Table/Forms Design Question

Steve,

I do track your responses, along with others, but yours because you keep
offering fee-based services in a FREE newsgroup and I feel the OP has a
right to get their question answered for FREE in this FREE forum. I do not
interject false statements and certainly not where it concerns you. I am
not *stalking* you or anyone else, perhaps you should look up the word in
the dictionary.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
It certainly is stalking when you track my responses to OPs and interject
false statements. Stalking is a criminal act!!!

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Not stalking... not sure where you get that from. Here I am here now and
I see you provided the tables I would thank you but you would probably
find a way to twist that around...

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
You are too busy to answer the OP but not to busy to stalk me! Go
figure???

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
I am a little busy right now BUT if no one gets back to you by the time
I get UNbusy I will review your tables.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type Table
so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to
get the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys
to fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data
Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted
by the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data table
when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have
all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this.
I took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me
better. (Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers
etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers,
#ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating
Foreman,Workman &
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has different
Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of
worker) in a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All
names for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row.
I can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be
able to view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to
make it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I am
looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name each
workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I cant.
I can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change
the values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]











  #17  
Old July 24th, 2009, 10:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
John... Visio MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 900
Default Table/Forms Design Question

stevie, you really have problems.

have you considered that if you were not harrassing the posters to these
newsgroups for unreasonable work at imodest prices that Gina andthe rest of
us would not be on your case?

John... Visio MVP
"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
It certainly is stalking when you track my responses to OPs and interject
false statements. Stalking is a criminal act!!!

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Not stalking... not sure where you get that from. Here I am here now and
I see you provided the tables I would thank you but you would probably
find a way to twist that around...

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
You are too busy to answer the OP but not to busy to stalk me! Go
figure???

Steve



  #18  
Old July 24th, 2009, 10:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
John... Visio MVP
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 900
Default Table/Forms Design Question

Steve has a special dictionary. It appears that the letter "R" is missing
and he confuses Free for Fee. Actually, he is just confused.
John... VIsio MVP

PS: Thanks for STALKING the posters to these newsgroups and providing
helpful answers to their questions.

"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Steve,

I do track your responses, along with others, but yours because you keep
offering fee-based services in a FREE newsgroup and I feel the OP has a
right to get their question answered for FREE in this FREE forum. I do
not interject false statements and certainly not where it concerns you. I
am not *stalking* you or anyone else, perhaps you should look up the word
in the dictionary.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
It certainly is stalking when you track my responses to OPs and interject
false statements. Stalking is a criminal act!!!

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Not stalking... not sure where you get that from. Here I am here now
and I see you provided the tables I would thank you but you would
probably find a way to twist that around...

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
You are too busy to answer the OP but not to busy to stalk me! Go
figure???

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
I am a little busy right now BUT if no one gets back to you by the time
I get UNbusy I will review your tables.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type
Table so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to
get the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys
to fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data
Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted
by the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data
table when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have
all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this.
I took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me
better. (Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers
etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers,
#ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating
Foreman,Workman &
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has
different Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of
worker) in a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All
names for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row.
I can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be
able to view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to
make it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I
am looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name
each workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I
cant. I can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change
the values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]













  #19  
Old July 24th, 2009, 10:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Gina Whipp
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,500
Default Table/Forms Design Question

And thank you... for the P.S. part... as for Steve well, he's just special.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"John... Visio MVP" wrote in message
...
Steve has a special dictionary. It appears that the letter "R" is missing
and he confuses Free for Fee. Actually, he is just confused.
John... VIsio MVP

PS: Thanks for STALKING the posters to these newsgroups and providing
helpful answers to their questions.

"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Steve,

I do track your responses, along with others, but yours because you keep
offering fee-based services in a FREE newsgroup and I feel the OP has a
right to get their question answered for FREE in this FREE forum. I do
not interject false statements and certainly not where it concerns you.
I am not *stalking* you or anyone else, perhaps you should look up the
word in the dictionary.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
It certainly is stalking when you track my responses to OPs and
interject false statements. Stalking is a criminal act!!!

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Not stalking... not sure where you get that from. Here I am here now
and I see you provided the tables I would thank you but you would
probably find a way to twist that around...

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote
in message m...
You are too busy to answer the OP but not to busy to stalk me! Go
figure???

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
I am a little busy right now BUT if no one gets back to you by the
time I get UNbusy I will review your tables.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type
Table so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to
get the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys
to fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data
Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted
by the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data
table when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have
all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do
this. I took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me
better. (Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors,
Ironworkers etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers,
#ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating
Foreman,Workman &
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has
different Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of
worker) in a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as
separate fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All
names for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each
row. I can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table
seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be
able to view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem
to make it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I
am looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name
each workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I
cant. I can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I
change the values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]















  #20  
Old July 25th, 2009, 01:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.tablesdbdesign
Steve[_72_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 190
Default Table/Forms Design Question

I do track your responses

I am not *stalking* you

You're a hypocrtite who speaks out of both sides of your mouth.

Perhaps you should look up the word stalking in the dictionary.

Stalking is a criminal act and I am recording each time you interject
anything destructive to one of my posts.

Steve

"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Steve,

I do track your responses, along with others, but yours because you keep
offering fee-based services in a FREE newsgroup and I feel the OP has a
right to get their question answered for FREE in this FREE forum. I do
not interject false statements and certainly not where it concerns you. I
am not *stalking* you or anyone else, perhaps you should look up the word
in the dictionary.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" - Tremors
II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
It certainly is stalking when you track my responses to OPs and interject
false statements. Stalking is a criminal act!!!

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
Not stalking... not sure where you get that from. Here I am here now
and I see you provided the tables I would thank you but you would
probably find a way to twist that around...

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Steve" help_available_at_very_reasonable_rates@contactme .com wrote in
message m...
You are too busy to answer the OP but not to busy to stalk me! Go
figure???

Steve


"Gina Whipp" wrote in message
...
I am a little busy right now BUT if no one gets back to you by the time
I get UNbusy I will review your tables.

--
Gina Whipp

"I feel I have been denied critical, need to know, information!" -
Tremors II

http://www.regina-whipp.com/index_files/TipList.htm

"Damian" wrote in message
...
Made a mistake. Is there an Edit button here? hmm

Correction on the Tables:
So Far I have 3 Tables:

Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborers - Linked to Crews Type
Table so
you can choose from drop down menu.

Crews Data
t_CrewDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

Crews Type
t_CrewDetailID autoNumber
t_CrewDetailType will be Carpenter, Surveyor, Laborman

Sorry


"Damian" wrote:

Great Help, thanks to all for info and great links. I'm starting to
get the
Big Picture now.
The only thing I am confused is how will I buld a Form for the guys
to fill
out.
Maybe I should explain what I want to accomplish here.

So Far I have 2 Tables:
Crews Neme
t_CrewID autoNumber PK
t_CrewFname first name
t_CrewLname last name
t_CrewType Workman - Foreman or Laborer Linked from Crews Data
Table

Crews Data
t_CrewsDataID autoNumber PK
t_CrewsDataType will be Foreman, Workman, Laborer

(Now the data Value that you mentioned 1 , 3 , 2 is the amount of
Foreman/Workman/Laborer each Crew had. This field is to be inserted
by the
user. so should I still have a DataValue field in my Crews Data
table when it
will be different for every t_CrewID and every T_CrewsID will have
all
t_CrewsDataTypes?)
I have an excell for this but I want to create a databaseto do this.
I took
a screenshot of the excell so you can understand it and help me
better. (Hope
is ok to post links here like these, if not I am sorry)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6924/excellsample.png)

Thanks Again




"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:01 -0700, Damian

wrote:

I am Trying to create Daily Reports for my company.
I created tables for Carpenters, Laborers, Surveyors, Ironworkers
etc.
Each of these has fields *_Name, #ofForeman, #ofWorkers,
#ofLaborers.
ex.
"Carpenters Table
CarpentersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Joe 2 1 5
Bill 1 5 2
"
"Laborers Table
LaborersName Foreman Worekman Laborer
Frank 1 1 0
"
And so on (you get the picture)

Now are those tables Normalized? I know I am repeating
Foreman,Workman &
Laborer in each one of them but each of these tables has
different Names and
different quantaties of people.

I'd change your design completely. Putting data (the type of
worker) in a
tablename or a fieldname is simply WRONG DESIGN.

Workers
WorkerID Primary Key, perhaps an autonumber
WorkerName (I'd actually use LastName and FirstName as separate
fields
WorkerType e.g. Carpenter, Laborer, Surveyor, ...

WorkerData
WorkerID link to Workers
DataType e.g. "Foreman", "Laborer"
DataValue your 2, 1, 5 etc., whatever they mean


I created a form for Carpenters - A tabular form so I see All
names for each
Carpenter in seperate box and next to them their
Foreman/Workman/Laborer.
I also included a total column at the end which adds up each row.
I can edit
the fields each day and the total is changing. (thats good)

The problem is I have to create a Form for Each Table seperately.
Can I put Table CArpenter/ Laborer/ etc.. into one form and be
able to view
it and edit like I can the single Carpenters Form? I cant seem to
make it
work.

Im reading all these access books and I cant find the answers I
am looking
for anywhere.

I also created a Querie that sum up all Foreman for each Name
each workman
for each name and so on. Plus a final total Column which sums up
everyone. It
works great, BUT when I try to make it show up on the Form I
cant. I can do
it as a footer but it does not automatically update when I change
the values.
I have to close it and come back in. Why is that?

I know I am asking a lot and I hope you guys can help me.
Thank you


Get your table design right first and then work on the forms.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]













 




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