Font Smoothing & Image Scaling

Hi Echo,

I think you'd better -- assuming you want to continue the neighborly
atmosphere here, that is.

Aaargh!

As the cringe factor spirals upwardly out of control we have to ask
ourselves "Has it been worth it?".
After much reflection and soul searching, the answer has to be a resounding
"yes dammit, it's been good fun.
"Time consuming, reputation destroying, bandwidth eating, storage wasting
and almost totally pointless but fun nevertheless".

As Winston Churchill may have said, " Never, has so much been said, by so
many, on so little".

It's taken a long time to type all this nonsense mainly due to the fact that
I have arthritic fingers and have to press the keys with my nose. It's
funny, you can see all the dust between the keys from here and the static
from the screen makes your hair stand on end. I'll be glad to give it a rest
as I'm getting typists neck and a blunt conk.

So, hay ho, I'll trot off and try to leave the newsgroup in the stable state
that I found it and leave you to field the questions coming in. And there a
quite a bit. You've been saddled with me long enough so I'll rein it in,
retire back to my little corner of the shire and tell the kids tall tails.
Whither or not you'll miss me is another question. Let's have a show of
hands for ppt 'cos in the mane it does what is says on the tin.

With a tug of the forelock I'll go before I get gelded.

Adios

Zig
"Echo S" wrote in message
...
"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
Could have been, didn't get to see his licence but it might have had Mr
(E.
D)obbin on the door.

I can hear the groans from here.

What a way for two groan men to be spending their time, eh?

Whinnyver you're ready, we can stop.

I think you'd better -- assuming you want to continue the neighborly
atmosphere here, that is.

A fellow Pooh fan! So glad to see the refined combination of great punster
and reader of great books!
(I'm actually serious about that. There is so much many adults could learn
by reading some of the great children's books out there. But that's taking
thread drift a little further than even I usually do.)

If you are going to stop by with food, don't tell Mikey... I promise the
thread will really drift then

--
Kathryn Jacobs, Microsoft MVP PowerPoint and OneNote
Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint - Available now from Holy Macro! Books
Get PowerPoint answers at http://www.powerpointanswers.com
I believe life is meant to be lived. But:
if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived

"Zigzag" wrote in message
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Hi Kathy,

Winnie the Pooh would love it if you would stop - especially if you are
going to stop by with some honey....

What a sweet way to tell someone to shut up.

Only a lady of quality and refinement could express an unpleasant task in
such a pleasantly delicate way.

Dear Pooh, you silly old bear,
T.i.g.g.e.r, Eeyore, P-P-Piglet, Owl, Rabbit, Kanga, Roo and miself
greatfuly acsept yor kynd invitashun on condishun that Alice will let us
come.
We will bring plenty of Hunny and some milk for Roo and some haycorns for
Piglet and some thistles for Eeyore and some malt extract for T.i.g.g.e.r
('cos you know he hates Hunny) and some vegetables for Rabbit.
And we can lissen to storys from Owl, and play poohsticks with Roo and
bownse with T.i.g.g.e.r and you can rede some of yor poems and we can sing
some songs. And we can play 'pin the tail on the donkey' and then may be
even Eeyore will chere up. And we can invite Zig's cat 'cos she's fun and
allways muddy but not Zig 'cos he's old and weeard.

Your bestest frend
Christopher Robin

And they had a party at Pooh's house and it was the best party ever.

End of story, book closed.

Live happily ever after

Cat (and Zig)

"Zigzag" wrote in message
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Hi Echo,

I think you'd better -- assuming you want to continue the neighborly
atmosphere here, that is.

Aaargh!

As the cringe factor spirals upwardly out of control we have to ask
ourselves "Has it been worth it?".
After much reflection and soul searching, the answer has to be a
resounding
"yes dammit, it's been good fun.
"Time consuming, reputation destroying, bandwidth eating, storage wasting
and almost totally pointless but fun nevertheless".

As Winston Churchill may have said, " Never, has so much been said, by so
many, on so little".

hehe. Usually our bad pun threads revolve (devolve?) around food --
especially fish and sea creatures. This has been a nice change of pace.
(horse pun intended g)

It's taken a long time to type all this nonsense mainly due to the fact
that
I have arthritic fingers and have to press the keys with my nose. It's
funny, you can see all the dust between the keys from here and the static
from the screen makes your hair stand on end. I'll be glad to give it a
rest
as I'm getting typists neck and a blunt conk.

So, hay ho, I'll trot off and try to leave the newsgroup in the stable
state
that I found it and leave you to field the questions coming in. And there
a
quite a bit. You've been saddled with me long enough so I'll rein it in,
retire back to my little corner of the shire and tell the kids tall tails.
Whither or not you'll miss me is another question. Let's have a show of
hands for ppt 'cos in the mane it does what is says on the tin.

With a tug of the forelock I'll go before I get gelded.

H U G E G R O A N!

(and a big fat grin!)

Echo

With a tug of the forelock I'll go before I get gelded.

Make that gilded, and c'mon back any old time, Zig me old zag.

Zigzag -
Did you ever get this system information together and send it to me? I
haven't received it if you did....

Can you also let me know if your background is a graphic or flat color?

--
Kathryn Jacobs, Microsoft MVP PowerPoint and OneNote
Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint - Available now from Holy Macro! Books
Get PowerPoint answers at http://www.powerpointanswers.com
I believe life is meant to be lived. But:
if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived

"Zigzag" wrote in message
...
Hi Kath,

Just a courtesy post.

I wasn't sure how you would take to me referring to your article in this
way even though no offence was intended. It's nice to know it was taken in
the spirit intended. IT can be interesting but dry at times; one has to
keep a sense of proportion don't you think ;-)

Now on to your problem, the reason you didn't find anything on it when
you searched is because very few people realize that font smoothing is
the same thing as "fuzzy text" or "scruffy text" or any of a number of
not nearly as printable things.

Innocent me.

If you want to try something tricky....

I'll give this a go when I have a bit more time. Thanks for the tip.

Okay, now my turn to ask you a couple of questions:

I'll see what you need, get the information together and mail you if
that's ok. I haven't tried it on another machine yet.

I believe life is meant to be lived. But:
if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we
lived

We always make a difference, for good or ill depending on the cut of your
gib. More often than not we don't know it.

Regards

Zig

PS

Cat says "hi".

Hi Kathy,

Sorry for the delay, I've been an bit busy trying to get some vba and custom
animation working as you might of noticed on another (longwinded) thread.
I'll get the stuff off to you, promise.

As a workaround I have noticed that putting shadowing on the text,
particularly the colour coded automatic shadows, does a lot to smooth any
jaggedness.

Regards

Zig et chat

Interesting idea Zig - Do you think it really affects the jaggies, or does
it just distract the eye from noticing it?

--
Kathryn Jacobs, Microsoft MVP PowerPoint and OneNote
Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint - Available now from Holy Macro! Books
Get PowerPoint answers at http://www.powerpointanswers.com
I believe life is meant to be lived. But:
if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived

"Zigzag" wrote in message
...
Hi Kathy,

Sorry for the delay, I've been an bit busy trying to get some vba and
custom animation working as you might of noticed on another (longwinded)
thread.
I'll get the stuff off to you, promise.

As a workaround I have noticed that putting shadowing on the text,
particularly the colour coded automatic shadows, does a lot to smooth any
jaggedness.

Regards

Zig et chat

Hi Kathy,

Let me just do a comparison.

Zig

Hi Kathy,

Interesting idea Zig - Do you think it really affects the jaggies, or does
it just distract the eye from noticing it?

Mmm, probably the latter. Scrap the automatic bit, they look better when the
shadow colour is close to the font colour (I'm using a gold font with a
light brown shadow on a red gradient background , better than the automatic
grey shadow).
And the shadows look appalling on smaller font sizes.
However the text definitely looks better in bold probably because the
jaggies, as you call them, are a lesser percentage of each character than
those not in bold.

I've also been comparing the jaggies using exactly the same font, size and
colour for animated and non-animated text boxes and they're both the same.
Looks like a retraction is called for from a previous post.

Whatever I use I can still see red anti-alias 'splodges' on the outside of
the characters.

Zig

Hi Kathy,

This is getting worse. I've shut down ppt and started it up again, created a
non-animated textbox on a new slide and there's nothing wrong with it.
I copied the textbox and put a motion path on the copy and that is
definitely worse than the original box.

I've turned hardware acceleration on and off in ppt and there's no
noticeable difference.

I have an NVidia GeForce4 Ti4200 8xAGP graphics card and have changed the
anti-aliasing from application-controlled to manual settings and have found
no difference in the quality of the text.

Zig