Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

Clea,
Check in your temp files. Or, do a search for the file name, but make sure
that you are searching hidden files and system files. I am guessing that it
is in the Internet Temp space for your system.

(I've been following along in the background with interest. haven't had
anything to add, but am hoping to hear what the answer turns out to be for
future reference...)

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"clea" wrote in message
...
I saved as html, and this is all it saved. It must be referencing the
actual material from somewhere else, because this html file is only 3k,
but
the attachment is close to 1M.
How does it know where to find the 2004 NSM Breakout v2b.htm file? that
might shed some light on this.

=======================
html

head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
meta name=ProgId content=PowerPoint.Slide
meta name=Generator content="Microsoft PowerPoint 9"
link id=Main-File rel=Main-File
href="../2004%20NSM%20Breakout%20v2b.htm"
link rel=Preview href=preview.wmf
titleTitle Here/title
![if !ppt]script src=script.js/scriptscript
!--
var gNavLoaded = gOtlNavLoaded = gOtlLoaded = false;
function Load()
{
str=document.location.hash,idx=str.indexOf('#')
if(idx=0) str=str.substr(1);
if(str) PPTSld.location.replace(str);
}
//--
/script![endif]
/head

frameset rows="*,25" frameborder=0
frameset cols="20%,80%" id=PPTHorizAdjust framespacing=2
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtl
frameset rows="100%,*" id=PPTVertAdjust framespacing=2 frameborder=1
onload="Load()"
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTSld
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTNts
/frameset
/frameset
frameset cols="20%,80%" framespacing=2 frameborder=0
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtlNav scrolling=no noresize
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTNav scrolling=no noresize
/frameset
/frameset

/html
=====================

"Echo S" wrote in message
...

I'd probably save the file as HTML and then view it in IE to see if the
source info has any oddball URLs in them.

I'd probably try the same thing with the Outlook email itself. Save as a
TXT file and then see if there's anything in the HTML code which points to
the competitor site. I don't know much about this, but there are 1-pixel
tracking gifs and things like that which may be the source of the problem.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com

Hm. the full link seems to be missing in this information, so I'd check in your temporary internet files folder as Kathy suggested. That may shed some light.

I'd also check the HTML of the Outlook email itself. Double-click to open the message in Outlook, then File/Save as/HTML. Open the HTML in IE and use View/Source to see if there are any hidden URLs in there.

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http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com



"clea" wrote:

I saved as html, and this is all it saved. It must be referencing the
actual material from somewhere else, because this html file is only 3k, but
the attachment is close to 1M.
How does it know where to find the 2004 NSM Breakout v2b.htm file? that
might shed some light on this.

=======================
html

head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
meta name=ProgId content=PowerPoint.Slide
meta name=Generator content="Microsoft PowerPoint 9"
link id=Main-File rel=Main-File href="../2004%20NSM%20Breakout%20v2b.htm"
link rel=Preview href=preview.wmf
titleTitle Here/title
![if !ppt]script src=script.js/scriptscript
!--
var gNavLoaded = gOtlNavLoaded = gOtlLoaded = false;
function Load()
{
str=document.location.hash,idx=str.indexOf('#')
if(idx=0) str=str.substr(1);
if(str) PPTSld.location.replace(str);
}
//--
/script![endif]
/head

frameset rows="*,25" frameborder=0
frameset cols="20%,80%" id=PPTHorizAdjust framespacing=2
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtl
frameset rows="100%,*" id=PPTVertAdjust framespacing=2 frameborder=1
onload="Load()"
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTSld
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTNts
/frameset
/frameset
frameset cols="20%,80%" framespacing=2 frameborder=0
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtlNav scrolling=no noresize
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTNav scrolling=no noresize
/frameset
/frameset

/html
=====================

"Echo S" wrote in message
...

I'd probably save the file as HTML and then view it in IE to see if the
source info has any oddball URLs in them.

I'd probably try the same thing with the Outlook email itself. Save as a
TXT file and then see if there's anything in the HTML code which points to
the competitor site. I don't know much about this, but there are 1-pixel
tracking gifs and things like that which may be the source of the problem.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com

Well, i didn't find the reference on my hard drive as kathy suggested, but i
found a folder that must have been created when i saved as html as you
suggested. There is a lot of .html .jpg .png, a few .xml, and a few strange
ones: preview.wmf, oledata.mso, editdata.mso, image.wmz, and slide.emz
are any of these suspicious?

"clea" wrote in message
...
I saved as html, and this is all it saved. It must be referencing the
actual material from somewhere else, because this html file is only 3k,
but
the attachment is close to 1M.
How does it know where to find the 2004 NSM Breakout v2b.htm file? that
might shed some light on this.

=======================
html

head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
meta name=ProgId content=PowerPoint.Slide
meta name=Generator content="Microsoft PowerPoint 9"
link id=Main-File rel=Main-File
href="../2004%20NSM%20Breakout%20v2b.htm"
link rel=Preview href=preview.wmf
titleTitle Here/title
![if !ppt]script src=script.js/scriptscript
!--
var gNavLoaded = gOtlNavLoaded = gOtlLoaded = false;
function Load()
{
str=document.location.hash,idx=str.indexOf('#')
if(idx=0) str=str.substr(1);
if(str) PPTSld.location.replace(str);
}
//--
/script![endif]
/head

frameset rows="*,25" frameborder=0
frameset cols="20%,80%" id=PPTHorizAdjust framespacing=2
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtl
frameset rows="100%,*" id=PPTVertAdjust framespacing=2 frameborder=1
onload="Load()"
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTSld
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTNts
/frameset
/frameset
frameset cols="20%,80%" framespacing=2 frameborder=0
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtlNav scrolling=no noresize
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTNav scrolling=no noresize
/frameset
/frameset

/html
=====================

"Echo S" wrote in message
...

I'd probably save the file as HTML and then view it in IE to see if the
source info has any oddball URLs in them.

I'd probably try the same thing with the Outlook email itself. Save as a
TXT file and then see if there's anything in the HTML code which points to
the competitor site. I don't know much about this, but there are 1-pixel
tracking gifs and things like that which may be the source of the problem.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com

That would be the PPT file saved as HTML? Echo meant to save the message the
file was attached to as TXT. That may shed more light.



In article , Clea wrote:
I saved as html, and this is all it saved. It must be referencing the
actual material from somewhere else, because this html file is only 3k, but
the attachment is close to 1M.
How does it know where to find the 2004 NSM Breakout v2b.htm file? that
might shed some light on this.

=======================
html

head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
meta name=ProgId content=PowerPoint.Slide
meta name=Generator content="Microsoft PowerPoint 9"
link id=Main-File rel=Main-File href="../2004%20NSM%20Breakout%20v2b.htm"
link rel=Preview href=preview.wmf
titleTitle Here/title
![if !ppt]script src=script.js/scriptscript
!--
var gNavLoaded = gOtlNavLoaded = gOtlLoaded = false;
function Load()
{
str=document.location.hash,idx=str.indexOf('#')
if(idx=0) str=str.substr(1);
if(str) PPTSld.location.replace(str);
}
//--
/script![endif]
/head

frameset rows="*,25" frameborder=0
frameset cols="20%,80%" id=PPTHorizAdjust framespacing=2
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtl
frameset rows="100%,*" id=PPTVertAdjust framespacing=2 frameborder=1
onload="Load()"
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTSld
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTNts
/frameset
/frameset
frameset cols="20%,80%" framespacing=2 frameborder=0
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtlNav scrolling=no noresize
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTNav scrolling=no noresize
/frameset
/frameset

/html
=====================

"Echo S" wrote in message
...

I'd probably save the file as HTML and then view it in IE to see if the
source info has any oddball URLs in them.

I'd probably try the same thing with the Outlook email itself. Save as a
TXT file and then see if there's anything in the HTML code which points to
the competitor site. I don't know much about this, but there are 1-pixel
tracking gifs and things like that which may be the source of the problem.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com


--
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PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
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October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================

In article , Clea wrote:
Well, i didn't find the reference on my hard drive as kathy suggested, but i
found a folder that must have been created when i saved as html as you
suggested. There is a lot of .html .jpg .png, a few .xml, and a few strange
ones: preview.wmf, oledata.mso, editdata.mso, image.wmz, and slide.emz
are any of these suspicious?

I don't think so but I wouldn't expect them to be. What you're looking at is,
taken as a whole, the HTML version of the original PPT file.

Since the original PPT file on its own doesn't trigger the attempt to connect
to the net, I wouldn't expect any of this stuff to do so either.

Back to Outlook, I think ...

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PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
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October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

In article , Clea wrote:
Well, i didn't find the reference on my hard drive as kathy suggested, but i
found a folder that must have been created when i saved as html as you
suggested. There is a lot of .html .jpg .png, a few .xml, and a few strange
ones: preview.wmf, oledata.mso, editdata.mso, image.wmz, and slide.emz
are any of these suspicious?

I don't think so but I wouldn't expect them to be. What you're looking at is,
taken as a whole, the HTML version of the original PPT file.

Since the original PPT file on its own doesn't trigger the attempt to connect
to the net, I wouldn't expect any of this stuff to do so either.

Back to Outlook, I think ...

Yes. I meant for Joey to save the actual Outlook message. I was thinking maybe there's a tracking GIF in there or something...

Echo

I saved the message as text, didn't notice anything. Then I took the saved
file from my hard drive, created a new email, attached the file, sent it to
myself, and I still get the popup about web access! So now I think it rules
out the email and points back to the .ppt !!?!!
On both the original email, and my newly created email (I use Outlook) if I
double click on the message to open it in it's own window, I don't get the
paperclip icon in the upper right, it displays the attachment in a frame
down at the bottom of the email. When I click on the attachment down there,
I do NOT get the web access popups. (Also, reminder, opening the .ppt from
the hard drive does not give a popup.)
The only way I get the popups is if I am in Outlook, viewing the email in
the preview window/frame, and there is a paperclip, I click on the
paperclip, then click on the filename, then I get the web access popups.
How could .ppt know how it was being opened?
I got zero responses from the microsoft.public.outlook newsgroup. Maybe I
should try a new post with a more sensational headline...
I sure appreciate all your suggestions.
thanks

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
That would be the PPT file saved as HTML? Echo meant to save the message
the
file was attached to as TXT. That may shed more light.



In article , Clea wrote:
I saved as html, and this is all it saved. It must be referencing the
actual material from somewhere else, because this html file is only 3k,
but
the attachment is close to 1M.
How does it know where to find the 2004 NSM Breakout v2b.htm file? that
might shed some light on this.

=======================
html

head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
meta name=ProgId content=PowerPoint.Slide
meta name=Generator content="Microsoft PowerPoint 9"
link id=Main-File rel=Main-File
href="../2004%20NSM%20Breakout%20v2b.htm"
link rel=Preview href=preview.wmf
titleTitle Here/title
![if !ppt]script src=script.js/scriptscript
!--
var gNavLoaded = gOtlNavLoaded = gOtlLoaded = false;
function Load()
{
str=document.location.hash,idx=str.indexOf('#')
if(idx=0) str=str.substr(1);
if(str) PPTSld.location.replace(str);
}
//--
/script![endif]
/head

frameset rows="*,25" frameborder=0
frameset cols="20%,80%" id=PPTHorizAdjust framespacing=2
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtl
frameset rows="100%,*" id=PPTVertAdjust framespacing=2 frameborder=1
onload="Load()"
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTSld
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTNts
/frameset
/frameset
frameset cols="20%,80%" framespacing=2 frameborder=0
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtlNav scrolling=no noresize
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTNav scrolling=no noresize
/frameset
/frameset

/html
=====================

"Echo S" wrote in message
...

I'd probably save the file as HTML and then view it in IE to see if
the
source info has any oddball URLs in them.

I'd probably try the same thing with the Outlook email itself. Save as
a
TXT file and then see if there's anything in the HTML code which points
to
the competitor site. I don't know much about this, but there are 1-pixel
tracking gifs and things like that which may be the source of the
problem.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com


--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================

In article , Clea wrote:
I saved the message as text, didn't notice anything. Then I took the saved
file from my hard drive, created a new email, attached the file, sent it to
myself, and I still get the popup about web access! So now I think it rules
out the email and points back to the .ppt !!?!!

Oh geez. If it gets any weirder, we're gonna have to arm you against snarling
alien heads exploding out of your monitor. ;-)

But one thing: are you on an always-on net connection? Is the connection
active both when you're opening the presentation from Outlook and when you're
opening the PPT itself, standalone?

Is the PPT file/email big or proprietary? If not, and if you'd like to forward
it to me to have a look, go for it: steve at-sign pptools dot com

On both the original email, and my newly created email (I use Outlook) if I
double click on the message to open it in it's own window, I don't get the
paperclip icon in the upper right, it displays the attachment in a frame
down at the bottom of the email. When I click on the attachment down there,
I do NOT get the web access popups. (Also, reminder, opening the .ppt from
the hard drive does not give a popup.)
The only way I get the popups is if I am in Outlook, viewing the email in
the preview window/frame, and there is a paperclip, I click on the
paperclip, then click on the filename, then I get the web access popups.
How could .ppt know how it was being opened?
I got zero responses from the microsoft.public.outlook newsgroup. Maybe I
should try a new post with a more sensational headline...

Something about aliens coming out of the monitor, maybe? ;-)

I sure appreciate all your suggestions.
thanks

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
That would be the PPT file saved as HTML? Echo meant to save the message
the
file was attached to as TXT. That may shed more light.



In article , Clea wrote:
I saved as html, and this is all it saved. It must be referencing the
actual material from somewhere else, because this html file is only 3k,
but
the attachment is close to 1M.
How does it know where to find the 2004 NSM Breakout v2b.htm file? that
might shed some light on this.

=======================
html

head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
meta name=ProgId content=PowerPoint.Slide
meta name=Generator content="Microsoft PowerPoint 9"
link id=Main-File rel=Main-File
href="../2004%20NSM%20Breakout%20v2b.htm"
link rel=Preview href=preview.wmf
titleTitle Here/title
![if !ppt]script src=script.js/scriptscript
!--
var gNavLoaded = gOtlNavLoaded = gOtlLoaded = false;
function Load()
{
str=document.location.hash,idx=str.indexOf('#')
if(idx=0) str=str.substr(1);
if(str) PPTSld.location.replace(str);
}
//--
/script![endif]
/head

frameset rows="*,25" frameborder=0
frameset cols="20%,80%" id=PPTHorizAdjust framespacing=2
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtl
frameset rows="100%,*" id=PPTVertAdjust framespacing=2 frameborder=1
onload="Load()"
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTSld
frame src=slide0001.htm name=PPTNts
/frameset
/frameset
frameset cols="20%,80%" framespacing=2 frameborder=0
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTOtlNav scrolling=no noresize
frame src=outline.htm name=PPTNav scrolling=no noresize
/frameset
/frameset

/html
=====================

"Echo S" wrote in message
...

I'd probably save the file as HTML and then view it in IE to see if
the
source info has any oddball URLs in them.

I'd probably try the same thing with the Outlook email itself. Save as
a
TXT file and then see if there's anything in the HTML code which points
to
the competitor site. I don't know much about this, but there are 1-pixel
tracking gifs and things like that which may be the source of the
problem.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com


--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================



--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================

Ha!
Yes, always-on high speed connection, active all the time.
It is about 800K file, and yes proprietary.
Now that I know about sending it to myself and it still has it, i will retry
the cut-it-in-half idea until I can localize which page(s) do this. I
will try to find a non-proprietary page, or delete the text or graphics, and
send you the problem.
thanks
-----------------------
"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Clea wrote:
I saved the message as text, didn't notice anything. Then I took the
saved
file from my hard drive, created a new email, attached the file, sent it
to
myself, and I still get the popup about web access! So now I think it
rules
out the email and points back to the .ppt !!?!!

Oh geez. If it gets any weirder, we're gonna have to arm you against
snarling
alien heads exploding out of your monitor. ;-)

But one thing: are you on an always-on net connection? Is the connection
active both when you're opening the presentation from Outlook and when
you're
opening the PPT itself, standalone?

Is the PPT file/email big or proprietary? If not, and if you'd like to
forward
it to me to have a look, go for it: steve at-sign pptools dot com

On both the original email, and my newly created email (I use Outlook)
if I
double click on the message to open it in it's own window, I don't get
the
paperclip icon in the upper right, it displays the attachment in a frame
down at the bottom of the email. When I click on the attachment down
there,
I do NOT get the web access popups. (Also, reminder, opening the .ppt
from
the hard drive does not give a popup.)
The only way I get the popups is if I am in Outlook, viewing the email
in
the preview window/frame, and there is a paperclip, I click on the
paperclip, then click on the filename, then I get the web access popups.
How could .ppt know how it was being opened?
I got zero responses from the microsoft.public.outlook newsgroup. Maybe
I
should try a new post with a more sensational headline...

Something about aliens coming out of the monitor, maybe? ;-)

I sure appreciate all your suggestions.
thanks

In article , Clea wrote:
Ha!
Yes, always-on high speed connection, active all the time.
It is about 800K file, and yes proprietary.
Now that I know about sending it to myself and it still has it, i will retry
the cut-it-in-half idea until I can localize which page(s) do this. I
will try to find a non-proprietary page, or delete the text or graphics, and
send you the problem.

Great ... 800k's no problem, so once you delete the proprietary stuff, shoot it
along.

thanks
-----------------------
"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Clea wrote:
I saved the message as text, didn't notice anything. Then I took the
saved
file from my hard drive, created a new email, attached the file, sent it
to
myself, and I still get the popup about web access! So now I think it
rules
out the email and points back to the .ppt !!?!!

Oh geez. If it gets any weirder, we're gonna have to arm you against
snarling
alien heads exploding out of your monitor. ;-)

But one thing: are you on an always-on net connection? Is the connection
active both when you're opening the presentation from Outlook and when
you're
opening the PPT itself, standalone?

Is the PPT file/email big or proprietary? If not, and if you'd like to
forward
it to me to have a look, go for it: steve at-sign pptools dot com

On both the original email, and my newly created email (I use Outlook)
if I
double click on the message to open it in it's own window, I don't get
the
paperclip icon in the upper right, it displays the attachment in a frame
down at the bottom of the email. When I click on the attachment down
there,
I do NOT get the web access popups. (Also, reminder, opening the .ppt
from
the hard drive does not give a popup.)
The only way I get the popups is if I am in Outlook, viewing the email
in
the preview window/frame, and there is a paperclip, I click on the
paperclip, then click on the filename, then I get the web access popups.
How could .ppt know how it was being opened?
I got zero responses from the microsoft.public.outlook newsgroup. Maybe
I
should try a new post with a more sensational headline...

Something about aliens coming out of the monitor, maybe? ;-)

I sure appreciate all your suggestions.
thanks



--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================