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  #31  
Old June 28th, 2004, 08:17 PM
clea
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

OK, using a combination of advices from here, I pared down the file until I
found just the one picture that is "phoning home". It does it when I open
the .ppt from the hard drive, does not rely on outlook at all. Apparently
when I opened the big file from the hard drive, it only displayed the first
page, and did not "run" any of the later pages, but when I opened it from
Outlook, it would "run" the later pages upon first opening it.
I think it is a .jpg. Can you embed automatic stuff inside a .jpg?
Anyhoo, I will email this to Steve, thanks for looking at it.


"clea" wrote in message
...
Ha!
Yes, always-on high speed connection, active all the time.
It is about 800K file, and yes proprietary.
Now that I know about sending it to myself and it still has it, i will

retry
the cut-it-in-half idea until I can localize which page(s) do this. I
will try to find a non-proprietary page, or delete the text or graphics,

and
send you the problem.
thanks
-----------------------
"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Clea wrote:
I saved the message as text, didn't notice anything. Then I took the

saved
file from my hard drive, created a new email, attached the file, sent

it
to
myself, and I still get the popup about web access! So now I think it

rules
out the email and points back to the .ppt !!?!!


Oh geez. If it gets any weirder, we're gonna have to arm you against

snarling
alien heads exploding out of your monitor. ;-)

But one thing: are you on an always-on net connection? Is the

connection
active both when you're opening the presentation from Outlook and when

you're
opening the PPT itself, standalone?



  #32  
Old June 28th, 2004, 09:06 PM
Echo S
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

I bet that JPG was copied from the web and the paste left some of those HTML tags.

(I think one of us mentioned something about that as a possibility in one of the posts in this thread.)

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com
presenter, PPT Live '04
Oct 10-13, San Diego http://www.powerpointlive.com



"clea" wrote:

OK, using a combination of advices from here, I pared down the file until I
found just the one picture that is "phoning home". It does it when I open
the .ppt from the hard drive, does not rely on outlook at all. Apparently
when I opened the big file from the hard drive, it only displayed the first
page, and did not "run" any of the later pages, but when I opened it from
Outlook, it would "run" the later pages upon first opening it.
I think it is a .jpg. Can you embed automatic stuff inside a .jpg?
Anyhoo, I will email this to Steve, thanks for looking at it.


"clea" wrote in message
...
Ha!
Yes, always-on high speed connection, active all the time.
It is about 800K file, and yes proprietary.
Now that I know about sending it to myself and it still has it, i will

retry
the cut-it-in-half idea until I can localize which page(s) do this. I
will try to find a non-proprietary page, or delete the text or graphics,

and
send you the problem.
thanks
-----------------------
"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Clea wrote:
I saved the message as text, didn't notice anything. Then I took the

saved
file from my hard drive, created a new email, attached the file, sent

it
to
myself, and I still get the popup about web access! So now I think it

rules
out the email and points back to the .ppt !!?!!

Oh geez. If it gets any weirder, we're gonna have to arm you against

snarling
alien heads exploding out of your monitor. ;-)

But one thing: are you on an always-on net connection? Is the

connection
active both when you're opening the presentation from Outlook and when

you're
opening the PPT itself, standalone?




  #33  
Old June 28th, 2004, 10:01 PM
Steve Rindsberg
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

In article , Clea wrote:
OK, using a combination of advices from here, I pared down the file until I
found just the one picture that is "phoning home". It does it when I open
the .ppt from the hard drive, does not rely on outlook at all.


Which I now have a copy of ... thanks. And to keep everyone posted on the fun,
the same file here doesn't phone home in any version of PPT I've tried so far,
2000, 2002 and 2003.

when I opened the big file from the hard drive, it only displayed the first
page, and did not "run" any of the later pages, but when I opened it from
Outlook, it would "run" the later pages upon first opening it.
I think it is a .jpg. Can you embed automatic stuff inside a .jpg?


Pictures can have links and I guess JPGs can have buffer overrun code that can
affect browsers; not sure what it'd do with PPT. Hmm. When you bring up the
PPT, it's not coming up in Internet Explorer ... it's opening IN PowerPoint,
right?


Anyhoo, I will email this to Steve, thanks for looking at it.

"clea" wrote in message
...
Ha!
Yes, always-on high speed connection, active all the time.
It is about 800K file, and yes proprietary.
Now that I know about sending it to myself and it still has it, i will

retry
the cut-it-in-half idea until I can localize which page(s) do this. I
will try to find a non-proprietary page, or delete the text or graphics,

and
send you the problem.
thanks
-----------------------
"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Clea wrote:
I saved the message as text, didn't notice anything. Then I took the

saved
file from my hard drive, created a new email, attached the file, sent

it
to
myself, and I still get the popup about web access! So now I think it

rules
out the email and points back to the .ppt !!?!!

Oh geez. If it gets any weirder, we're gonna have to arm you against

snarling
alien heads exploding out of your monitor. ;-)

But one thing: are you on an always-on net connection? Is the

connection
active both when you're opening the presentation from Outlook and when

you're
opening the PPT itself, standalone?



--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================

  #34  
Old June 28th, 2004, 10:01 PM
Steve Rindsberg
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

In article , Echo S wrote:
I bet that JPG was copied from the web and the paste left some of those HTML

tags.

(I think one of us mentioned something about that as a possibility in one of

the posts in this thread.)


I'm wondering the same, but why the heck won't it trigger an attempt to go over
the walls here?

--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================

  #35  
Old June 28th, 2004, 11:16 PM
clea
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

Correct, it opens IN powerpoint.
Glad I got you hooked, maybe you will figure it out!!!
I'm assuming you have a firewall that will alert you, and that you have not
already given powerpoint permission to access the 'net. I use Kerio, and it
has an admin page where i can delete items from having permission.


"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Clea wrote:


Pictures can have links and I guess JPGs can have buffer overrun code that

can
affect browsers; not sure what it'd do with PPT. Hmm. When you bring up

the
PPT, it's not coming up in Internet Explorer ... it's opening IN

PowerPoint,
right?




  #36  
Old June 29th, 2004, 02:56 PM
Steve Rindsberg
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

In article , Clea wrote:
Correct, it opens IN powerpoint.
Glad I got you hooked, maybe you will figure it out!!!
I'm assuming you have a firewall that will alert you, and that you have not
already given powerpoint permission to access the 'net. I use Kerio, and it
has an admin page where i can delete items from having permission.


Yep - I installed the free ZoneAlarm version on one of the PCs and verified
that it squawks when it's supposed to.



--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================

  #37  
Old June 29th, 2004, 03:25 PM
clea
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

Steve may be too humble to brag, but he found the link after a bit of super
sleuthing.
I can't explain the intracies of it, but he made a sort of demo on his
website to demonstrate how I got confused by this.
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00613.htm
The good news is that it appears accidental and innoccuous (not spying.)
The bad news is that I wasted several hours of Steve's time.
The good news is that maybe Steve learned something new.

You really should browse Steve's website. It appears quite simple on first
glance, but there is a WEALTH of information under the surface. The PPT
Advanced Search may help you find what you want on his site, it is a few
paragraphs down he
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/

Thanks Steve!

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Echo S

wrote:
I bet that JPG was copied from the web and the paste left some of those

HTML
tags.

(I think one of us mentioned something about that as a possibility in

one of
the posts in this thread.)


I'm wondering the same, but why the heck won't it trigger an attempt to go

over
the walls here?

--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================



  #38  
Old June 29th, 2004, 05:28 PM
Kathy J
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

Clea:
You have just learned one of the most important lessons in PPT: Steve's site
will have the answer. If it doesn't, he'll add it when he finds it. Doesn't
matter the problem, long as it is related to PPT he'll provide information
on it. He's my hero!

--
Kathryn Jacobs, Microsoft MVP PowerPoint and OneNote
Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint - Available now from Holy Macro! Books
Get PowerPoint answers at http://www.powerpointanswers.com
Featured Presenter at PPT 2004 - http://www.pptlive/com

I believe life is meant to be lived. But:
if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived

"clea" wrote in message
...
Steve may be too humble to brag, but he found the link after a bit of

super
sleuthing.
I can't explain the intracies of it, but he made a sort of demo on his
website to demonstrate how I got confused by this.
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00613.htm
The good news is that it appears accidental and innoccuous (not spying.)
The bad news is that I wasted several hours of Steve's time.
The good news is that maybe Steve learned something new.

You really should browse Steve's website. It appears quite simple on

first
glance, but there is a WEALTH of information under the surface. The PPT
Advanced Search may help you find what you want on his site, it is a few
paragraphs down he
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/

Thanks Steve!

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Echo S

wrote:
I bet that JPG was copied from the web and the paste left some of

those
HTML
tags.

(I think one of us mentioned something about that as a possibility in

one of
the posts in this thread.)


I'm wondering the same, but why the heck won't it trigger an attempt to

go
over
the walls here?

--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================





  #39  
Old June 29th, 2004, 05:39 PM
Steve Rindsberg
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00613.htm
The good news is that it appears accidental and innoccuous (not spying.)
The bad news is that I wasted several hours of Steve's time.
The good news is that maybe Steve learned something new.


Which negates the previous "bad news" so net, we're way ahead here. g

Further bit of info: I'm not positive of this yet but it seems that the
behavior here depends on which version of PPT you copy/paste into also.

As to the rest ... blushthanks/blush


"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
In article , Echo S

wrote:
I bet that JPG was copied from the web and the paste left some of those

HTML
tags.

(I think one of us mentioned something about that as a possibility in

one of
the posts in this thread.)


I'm wondering the same, but why the heck won't it trigger an attempt to go

over
the walls here?

--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================



--
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
================================================
Featured Presenter, PowerPoint Live 2004
October 10-13, San Diego, CA www.PowerPointLive.com
================================================

  #40  
Old June 29th, 2004, 11:26 PM
Steve Rindsberg
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Default Powerpoint file accesses the web, how, where, what, why ?

You have just learned one of the most important lessons in PPT: Steve's site
will have the answer. If it doesn't, he'll add it when he finds it. Doesn't
matter the problem, long as it is related to PPT he'll provide information
on it. He's my hero!


C'mon guys. I'm having enough trouble finding hats that fit as it is. ;-)

Besides, I steal all the best stuff from other sites g

 




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