powerpoint 2007 needs hardware graphic acceleration like 2002

You are probably right but I can say that this will definitely slow down to a
crawl the corporate adoption of this update. I 'd wished that the beta was
more usable to allow for faster familiarizaton but I will give it a good try
and see how long will it take me to get accustomed to the new interface.
Somehow, I think that MS forgot an important rule: give people choices of how
they want to work (old style menus vs. new style menus).

I was amazed how upset people became in my company of a recent very moderate
update (Lotus Notes 5 to 6); Although by no means a revolutionary change, the
differences were enough for a number of people to try hard to avoid
upgrading!!!!!

"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi ADR,

Microsoft is well aware of the training issues, but do not expect to see
any old style menus. Those are dead for good and no matter how much
users will wish them back, they won't come back.
It takes a lot of time to get used to. It took me around a month to get
comfortable with it and now I definitely wouldn't want to go back. 2007
is a lot easier and better to use than 2003, once you get over the
learning issues.

Patrick

"ADR" wrote in message
:

Hi Patrick

I found out how to manipulate the template. It works well. Not very
intuitive but it will do. Yes, this new interface will take some getting
used to. The best way forward would be for Microsoft to allow old style
menus. I foresee a lot of training issues with this version.

"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi ADR,

Which template are you referring to? Do you mean editing the master
slide or actually modifying the theme/template that you base new
presentations on? (The terminology and what does what is a little bit
confusing in 2007). Microsoft has greatly enhanced what you can do in
this area, but it does take some time to get used to it and it is not
easy to get ones head around completely. If you are looking for a good
explanation, I suggest to start a new thread clearly labeled as
templates/themes and 2007. I know there are people frequenting this
newsgroup who have experimented successfully with those features (I
haven't yet).
If you are just looking to edit the master slide, you can get to it via
View, Slide Master.

Patrick Schmid
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http://pschmid.net


"ADR" wrote in message
:

Patrick,

Thank you for the suggestion. I may try it. To be honest, I gave
Powerpoint 2007 a good try and I completed a rather complex presentation on
it. I have to say that I was underwhelmed. In fact, I found that tasks that
were easy to accomplish with Powerpoint 2003, became difficult with this
version. Microsoft believes that people are happier selecting a template
instead of building their own but in corporate America (instead of small
business America), this is never true. One needs to work with corporate
templates and one has to find a way occassionally to modify them ever so
slightly as to fit specific jobs. Anyway, this is not easy to accomplish
with PowerPoint 2007. Somehow, modifying the template was eliminated as part
of the "new, idiot-proof" interface. Although I may tinker with the hardware
acceleration, MS should really work hard on speeding this clanker and
allowing people to access complicated menus more easily.

"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi ADR,

It could be worse. Beta 2 is rather fast compared to the earlier
(non-public) beta versions. You might want to try to decrease your
hardware acceleration. As weird as this sounds, this might actually give
you better performance in PowerPoint. To do this, go into Control Panel,
Display, Settings, Advanced, Troubleshoot and reduce the setting of the
slider there.
This has been a proven measure to deal with performance problems in
PowerPoint, and not just 2007. I have myself a top-of-the-line graphics
card, but PPT 2007 is faster for me if I reduce hardware acceleration by
one or two notches.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"ADR" wrote in message
:

I do not know if it needs graphics acceleration, but the present version is
undeniably very slow and difficult to work with. I think that "live preview"
certainly affects performance.

"Matt" wrote:

2007 graphics is slow unlike 2002

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You are probably right but I can say that this will definitely slow
down to a
crawl the corporate adoption of this update. I 'd wished that the beta was
more usable to allow for faster familiarizaton but I will give it a good try
and see how long will it take me to get accustomed to the new interface.
Somehow, I think that MS forgot an important rule: give people choices of how
they want to work (old style menus vs. new style menus).
To be blunt: Microsoft does give you a choice. It's called Office 2003.
It's simply unrealistic to demand that MS maintains two UIs for the same
program. MS spent millions on developing the new UI. It's really a huge
effort (2+ years, something like 40-50 people if I remember correctly?).
If Microsoft would give you old-style menus in 2007, then a very small
number of users would only use the new ribbon (humans are by nature
averse to change). How would they be able to justify the investment into
the UI then? Even though Microsoft has a lot of money, they are not in
the business of bad business.

Patrick Schmid
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http://pschmid.net

Hi,

I do not know if you saw my answer to Patrick, but I found out everything.

Yes, I saw that. Glad things are falling into place at least somewhat.

The only thing that I did not manage to do was to have drop shadows on fonts.
However, I may find it in a hidden dialog somewhere.

That's one area where Office 2007 has some very nice improvements.
Select the text placeholder or text block you want to edit
On the Drawing Tools/Format tab look for the Word Art "chunk"
On the right side, there are three dropdown gadgets. You want the bottommost.
From it you can pick various shadow effects and all manner of other eye candy.
Or ... easier, I think,:
Rightclick the text shape, choose Format Shape and click Shadow in the list on the left toget
access to custom shadow controls.

I have kept my Office
2003 installation and I can easily utilize my older version of Powerpoint, if
the going gets tough. I would like to be honest and say that I did not find
anything particularly new that I would like to use in this version of
Powerpoint. It certainly does not appear compelling enough to upgrade.
Certainly, the speed issue will make it difficult to work with this version
before the official release (composing slides is slow and unresponsive,
although Patrick suggested some solutions).

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

Somehow, modifying the template was eliminated as part
of the "new, idiot-proof" interface.

I don't quite follow you.

I click the View tab, click Slide Master and can edit the slide masters there.

In fact, you can still Shift+Click the "Normal view" icon (the one that used to be at the
left/bottom of your screen and has now moved to the lower right, next to the zoom slider.
One of the features that doesn't take more clicks to accomplish than in the last
version. ;-)

Oh, and while it's not apparent from the UI, MS has tried to retain the previous
version's keystroke combos. Alt + VMS (View, Master, Slide Master) takes you there as
well.

Assuming you did that, what did you find that you were unable to change?








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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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In article , Patrick Schmid wrote:
You are probably right but I can say that this will definitely slow
down to a
crawl the corporate adoption of this update. I 'd wished that the beta was
more usable to allow for faster familiarizaton but I will give it a good try
and see how long will it take me to get accustomed to the new interface.
Somehow, I think that MS forgot an important rule: give people choices of how
they want to work (old style menus vs. new style menus).

To be blunt: Microsoft does give you a choice. It's called Office 2003.

For a while, yes. But how long do you expect to see 2003 on the shelves once
2007 is released?

And as I understand it, for some corporate users there's no choice. They're
required to accept all upgrades in order to maintain their support contracts.

Start learning those keyboard shortcuts! ;-)

For a while, yes. But how long do you expect to see 2003 on the
shelves once
2007 is released?
Probably not for long...but I have several copies of it laying around

And as I understand it, for some corporate users there's no choice. They're
required to accept all upgrades in order to maintain their support contracts.
Really? I thought the way those subscriptions work is that you always
get the newest license with them, but that you can use any older version
as well. I thought most corporations were on the "every other version"
implementation cycle, so basically a new Office every 4 years instead of
2.


Start learning those keyboard shortcuts! ;-)
HAHA....True.

And as I understand it, for some corporate users there's no choice. They're
required to accept all upgrades in order to maintain their support contracts.
Really? I thought the way those subscriptions work is that you always
get the newest license with them, but that you can use any older version
as well. I thought most corporations were on the "every other version"
implementation cycle, so basically a new Office every 4 years instead of
2.

I don't really know how they work; maybe someone who knows the details can fill
us in. That'd be interesting.

Hello Patrick,

Sorry for taking too long to reply to this, but I did try to reduce hardware
acceleration. It had no discernible effect and, in fact, it created problem
in other applications. So entering text and composing slides in Powerpoint
2007 is just too slow, with letters appearing with a significant lag after
keys are pressed. The whole experience is very disappointing. I hope that
the final release is not as bad.

On the other hand, I also observed that these applications retain the
"Vista" look and do not adapt to the XP Pro environment in terms of their
window specifics. So, they seem to be geared for a different graphics
environment than the one in XP. I hope that this changes in the final
release because not everybody will be buying Vista.

"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi ADR,

It could be worse. Beta 2 is rather fast compared to the earlier
(non-public) beta versions. You might want to try to decrease your
hardware acceleration. As weird as this sounds, this might actually give
you better performance in PowerPoint. To do this, go into Control Panel,
Display, Settings, Advanced, Troubleshoot and reduce the setting of the
slider there.
This has been a proven measure to deal with performance problems in
PowerPoint, and not just 2007. I have myself a top-of-the-line graphics
card, but PPT 2007 is faster for me if I reduce hardware acceleration by
one or two notches.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"ADR" wrote in message
:

I do not know if it needs graphics acceleration, but the present version is
undeniably very slow and difficult to work with. I think that "live preview"
certainly affects performance.

"Matt" wrote:

2007 graphics is slow unlike 2002

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"Steve Rindsberg" wrote in message
...
And as I understand it, for some corporate users there's no choice.
They're
required to accept all upgrades in order to maintain their support
contracts.
Really? I thought the way those subscriptions work is that you always
get the newest license with them, but that you can use any older version
as well. I thought most corporations were on the "every other version"
implementation cycle, so basically a new Office every 4 years instead of
2.

I don't really know how they work; maybe someone who knows the details can
fill
us in. That'd be interesting.


From what I can see, all the old shourt cut keystrokes work as they always
have.


Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

Provider of PFCMedia http://www.pfcmedia.com

On the other hand, I also observed that these applications retain the
"Vista" look and do not adapt to the XP Pro environment in terms of their
window specifics. So, they seem to be geared for a different graphics
environment than the one in XP. I hope that this changes in the final
release because not everybody will be buying Vista.


MS has the Windows Presentation Foundation upgrade (as a service pack) in
the works for older versions of Windows. In fact it's available as a beta
for XP now. I think once the rough spots are worked out you and other XP
users will really like the results.



Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

Provider of PFCMedia http://www.pfcmedia.com

On the other hand, I also observed that these applications retain the
"Vista" look and do not adapt to the XP Pro environment in terms of their
window specifics. So, they seem to be geared for a different graphics
environment than the one in XP. I hope that this changes in the final
release because not everybody will be buying Vista.
If you mean the general look of the window not adapting to the WinXP
system look, then no, this won't change. That's the final look.
I don't think it is geared towards a different graphics environment. I
downloaded Vista B2, but haven't installed it yet. Once I have it
installed and running, I'll see how PPT does there, but I doubt it'll be
much of a difference.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net




"Patrick Schmid" wrote:

Hi ADR,

It could be worse. Beta 2 is rather fast compared to the earlier
(non-public) beta versions. You might want to try to decrease your
hardware acceleration. As weird as this sounds, this might actually give
you better performance in PowerPoint. To do this, go into Control Panel,
Display, Settings, Advanced, Troubleshoot and reduce the setting of the
slider there.
This has been a proven measure to deal with performance problems in
PowerPoint, and not just 2007. I have myself a top-of-the-line graphics
card, but PPT 2007 is faster for me if I reduce hardware acceleration by
one or two notches.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

"ADR" wrote in message
:

I do not know if it needs graphics acceleration, but the present version is
undeniably very slow and difficult to work with. I think that "live preview"
certainly affects performance.

"Matt" wrote:

2007 graphics is slow unlike 2002

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