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  #11  
Old December 4th, 2006, 10:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
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How much did you reduce your hardware acceleration?
Do you have the newest ATI drivers?
Is this on XP or Vista?

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"Programatix" wrote in message
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No changes at all. To explain further, this is what happened:
1) The slide shows up
2) Performance very slow. Everything moves is slow motion
3) After a few seconds (10 seconds or more, depending on the length of the
paragraph), everything goes back to normal.

Tried creating a new presentation on another computer. Same problem. One is
using ATI Radeon 9700 and another one is ATI Radeon X1300.

Thanks.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
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Try reducing your hardware acceleration.

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"Programatix" wrote in message
:

So far I'm getting slow performance for slides with by-word or by-letter
animation. It's like my computer is chocking for more power. No such
problem
with PowerPoint 2003.

"Bobby Z" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have any information on PPT2007? Pros & Cons. What are
some
of the neat new features? What was left out that should have been
included?



  #12  
Old December 4th, 2006, 12:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Programatix
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Reduced until none. Tried one by one. The ATI Radeon X1300 is using the
latest one and the ATI Radeon 9700 is using the previous version before the
latest (I really forget the version number). Both are using Windows XP.

Can you reproduce the problem? What I did is,
1) Create a new presentation
2) Type 2 paragraph of text.
3) Set custom animation on the paragraph. For this test, try choosing Whip
4) Set the Start With to "After Previous"
5) Run Slide

On my system, the performance for the preview (while choosing the animation)
is normal. On pressing F5, the animation got choked up for a while then
continue on as normal. If the paragraph is along, then it will be a very
long wait for the choking to go away. Well... very annoying.

Again, I tried the same thing using PowerPoint 2003, no problem at all. Even
with longer paragraph.

Thanks.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How much did you reduce your hardware acceleration?
Do you have the newest ATI drivers?
Is this on XP or Vista?

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
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"Programatix" wrote in message
:

No changes at all. To explain further, this is what happened:
1) The slide shows up
2) Performance very slow. Everything moves is slow motion
3) After a few seconds (10 seconds or more, depending on the length of
the
paragraph), everything goes back to normal.

Tried creating a new presentation on another computer. Same problem. One
is
using ATI Radeon 9700 and another one is ATI Radeon X1300.

Thanks.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Try reducing your hardware acceleration.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Programatix" wrote in message
:

So far I'm getting slow performance for slides with by-word or
by-letter
animation. It's like my computer is chocking for more power. No such
problem
with PowerPoint 2003.

"Bobby Z" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have any information on PPT2007? Pros & Cons. What are
some
of the neat new features? What was left out that should have been
included?





  #13  
Old December 4th, 2006, 04:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Echo S
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FWIW, I see the same thing here using your repro steps. Thank you for
posting those.

I think it's probably got to do with the new text engine in PPT 2007. I'd
save this animation effect for short pieces of text, since I find it
annoying on long blocks of text. And it seems to work better on mouse click
than if it starts With or After Previous, but it's still not perfectly
smooth. It also seems to run better the second time through. So if you can,
run your presentation one time to "cache" it. In fact, here, that's the only
way I can get the With/After Previous to run at all -- they just stall
partway through the animation if I don't arrow through the slide and then
back up and play it again (letting the animations start automatically this
time).

I do see the same delay you're describing even with a shorter block of text,
though.

When I do a true letter-by-letter animation (using an appear entrance
animation with Effect Options "animate text by letter"), the letters in the
first two words do seem a wee bit slower coming in. It's hard to tell,
though, because it's not a huge difference. I've tried adjusting the
"seconds delay between letters," but I still can't tell at 1 second and
below. It seems okay at 3 seconds and above, but at the faster speeds, it's
arguable either way.

Full disclosu I'm running PPT 2007 RTM on a virtual PC, and strange
display things have been known to happen on it in general. :-)

Sorry I don't have a better answer for you.

--
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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

"Programatix" wrote in message
...
Reduced until none. Tried one by one. The ATI Radeon X1300 is using the
latest one and the ATI Radeon 9700 is using the previous version before
the latest (I really forget the version number). Both are using Windows
XP.

Can you reproduce the problem? What I did is,
1) Create a new presentation
2) Type 2 paragraph of text.
3) Set custom animation on the paragraph. For this test, try choosing Whip
4) Set the Start With to "After Previous"
5) Run Slide

On my system, the performance for the preview (while choosing the
animation) is normal. On pressing F5, the animation got choked up for a
while then continue on as normal. If the paragraph is along, then it will
be a very long wait for the choking to go away. Well... very annoying.

Again, I tried the same thing using PowerPoint 2003, no problem at all.
Even with longer paragraph.

Thanks.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
How much did you reduce your hardware acceleration?
Do you have the newest ATI drivers?
Is this on XP or Vista?

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Programatix" wrote in message
:

No changes at all. To explain further, this is what happened:
1) The slide shows up
2) Performance very slow. Everything moves is slow motion
3) After a few seconds (10 seconds or more, depending on the length of
the
paragraph), everything goes back to normal.

Tried creating a new presentation on another computer. Same problem. One
is
using ATI Radeon 9700 and another one is ATI Radeon X1300.

Thanks.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Try reducing your hardware acceleration.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In:
http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

"Programatix" wrote in message
:

So far I'm getting slow performance for slides with by-word or
by-letter
animation. It's like my computer is chocking for more power. No such
problem
with PowerPoint 2003.

"Bobby Z" wrote in message
...
Does anyone have any information on PPT2007? Pros & Cons. What
are
some
of the neat new features? What was left out that should have been
included?







  #14  
Old December 4th, 2006, 05:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
TAJ Simmons
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PPT 2007 RTM
In case anyone reading this is not familiar with RTM....

That's 'Released To Manufacturers' (as in the finished product)

TS


  #15  
Old December 4th, 2006, 06:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Programatix
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Hmmm... I didn't get it... really... not joking.

"TAJ Simmons" wrote in message
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PPT 2007 RTM

In case anyone reading this is not familiar with RTM....

That's 'Released To Manufacturers' (as in the finished product)

TS



  #16  
Old December 4th, 2006, 06:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Echo S
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TAJ was explaining that I was saying I'm using the final (released to
manufacturing) version of PPT 2007. That's what RTM means. (Thanks, TAJ!)

This is as opposed to one of the beta versions that Microsoft also made
available, and which many are still using. The point is, I can repro the
problems in the final version, so it's not just a beta bug.

--
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What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

"Programatix" wrote in message
...
Hmmm... I didn't get it... really... not joking.

"TAJ Simmons" wrote in message
...
PPT 2007 RTM

In case anyone reading this is not familiar with RTM....

That's 'Released To Manufacturers' (as in the finished product)

TS





  #17  
Old December 4th, 2006, 06:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Programatix
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Oh ok. This mean that it's a bug right? Hmmm, hope Microsoft gets someone to
fix it up asap.

"Echo S" wrote in message
...
TAJ was explaining that I was saying I'm using the final (released to
manufacturing) version of PPT 2007. That's what RTM means. (Thanks, TAJ!)

This is as opposed to one of the beta versions that Microsoft also made
available, and which many are still using. The point is, I can repro the
problems in the final version, so it's not just a beta bug.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/

"Programatix" wrote in message
...
Hmmm... I didn't get it... really... not joking.

"TAJ Simmons" wrote in message
...
PPT 2007 RTM
In case anyone reading this is not familiar with RTM....

That's 'Released To Manufacturers' (as in the finished product)

TS







  #18  
Old December 4th, 2006, 08:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Patrick Schmid [MVP]
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Oh ok. This mean that it's a bug right? Hmmm, hope Microsoft gets
someone to
fix it up asap.

This is not how Microsoft works. Immediate patches are only done for
critical issues, that means mainly security related ones.
I wouldn't be surprised if this won't be addressed until the first
service pack, which is several months (at best) away.

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--------------
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Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
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  #19  
Old December 4th, 2006, 08:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Echo S
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"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...

I wouldn't be surprised if this won't be addressed until the first service
pack, which is several months (at best) away.


I wouldn't be surprised if it's not addressed until the next version of
Office....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/


  #20  
Old December 4th, 2006, 08:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.powerpoint
Programatix
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I once reported a bug in .NetFramework regarding the dataset to Microsoft.
Damn, they treated me as an idiot. Anyway, I managed to get their attention
and a patch is released for it (on request, something about only use this
patch if only you faced the stated problem).

"Echo S" wrote in message
...

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" wrote in message
...

I wouldn't be surprised if this won't be addressed until the first
service pack, which is several months (at best) away.


I wouldn't be surprised if it's not addressed until the next version of
Office....

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/




 




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