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Old January 7th, 2010, 01:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
KADL
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Default Expand/Collaspe feature in Access2007

What causes the expand + to appear on a form or subform? I created a routine
form with a table subform using one of the wizards. Through no no effort on
my part, the subform rows had the + to drill down to related records and I
was pleased to have that.

After adding some more tables and updating the relationships in my database,
the Expand + is no longer visible on that subform's data rows.

I don't know how that happened or how to get that feature back. It never
happened again when I created additional forms for other data from related
tables.

Help! Thanks!


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Old January 7th, 2010, 02:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
KADL
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Default Expand/Collaspe feature in Access2007

I should have also said that when I open the table itself, the expand + is
there, so that tells me I didn't mess up the relationships.

Thanks.

"KADL" wrote:

What causes the expand + to appear on a form or subform? I created a routine
form with a table subform using one of the wizards. Through no no effort on
my part, the subform rows had the + to drill down to related records and I
was pleased to have that.

After adding some more tables and updating the relationships in my database,
the Expand + is no longer visible on that subform's data rows.

I don't know how that happened or how to get that feature back. It never
happened again when I created additional forms for other data from related
tables.

Help! Thanks!


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Old January 7th, 2010, 02:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
KADL
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Default Expand/Collaspe feature in Access2007

Uh-Oh! The other thing I did in the interim was to separate the front and
back ends and link the tables. When I open the table in the backend, the
expand + is there but when I open the table in the front-end it is NOT there.
I compared the relationship window in both and they are identical.

Tanks for your help.

"KADL" wrote:

What causes the expand + to appear on a form or subform? I created a routine
form with a table subform using one of the wizards. Through no no effort on
my part, the subform rows had the + to drill down to related records and I
was pleased to have that.

After adding some more tables and updating the relationships in my database,
the Expand + is no longer visible on that subform's data rows.

I don't know how that happened or how to get that feature back. It never
happened again when I created additional forms for other data from related
tables.

Help! Thanks!


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Old January 7th, 2010, 02:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
John W. Vinson
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Default Expand/Collaspe feature in Access2007

On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:44:01 -0800, KADL
wrote:

What causes the expand + to appear on a form or subform? I created a routine
form with a table subform using one of the wizards. Through no no effort on
my part, the subform rows had the + to drill down to related records and I
was pleased to have that.

After adding some more tables and updating the relationships in my database,
the Expand + is no longer visible on that subform's data rows.

I don't know how that happened or how to get that feature back. It never
happened again when I created additional forms for other data from related
tables.

Help! Thanks!


This (mis)feature is called a Subdatasheet. It's a terrible drag on
performance; it's confusing; it's hard to control; and it's unnecessary, since
you can duplicate its functionality with another subform.

And yes, it's not available in linked tables.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]
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Old January 7th, 2010, 05:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.access.forms
KADL
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Default Expand/Collaspe feature in Access2007

Thanks, John. My users like it, but you I'll do the extra subform instead
and explain to them why it is necessary.

"John W. Vinson" wrote:

On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:44:01 -0800, KADL
wrote:

What causes the expand + to appear on a form or subform? I created a routine
form with a table subform using one of the wizards. Through no no effort on
my part, the subform rows had the + to drill down to related records and I
was pleased to have that.

After adding some more tables and updating the relationships in my database,
the Expand + is no longer visible on that subform's data rows.

I don't know how that happened or how to get that feature back. It never
happened again when I created additional forms for other data from related
tables.

Help! Thanks!


This (mis)feature is called a Subdatasheet. It's a terrible drag on
performance; it's confusing; it's hard to control; and it's unnecessary, since
you can duplicate its functionality with another subform.

And yes, it's not available in linked tables.
--

John W. Vinson [MVP]
.

 




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