Is there a shape for China?

I would like to use Visio's shapes for some mapping, but cannot seem to find
a shape for China. I see that Pitcaim Island even has a shape... how could
there be no shape for China??

Thanks!

because of border disputes between some of the countries, the maps are
unavailable.
al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
I would like to use Visio's shapes for some mapping, but cannot seem to
find
a shape for China. I see that Pitcaim Island even has a shape... how
could
there be no shape for China??

Thanks!

Al,

Thank you for the prompt reply!

If you don't mind, I have a follow-up. I can understand Microsoft's stance;
however, it has been years since China has been available as a shape, surely
somewhere, someone must have made their own shape for China. You can't just
leave it off the map. Does anyone have a third-party shape, or a download
available? It is unreasonable to not have some sort of solution, as I do not
see China and Taiwan, nor India and Pakistan solving their border disputes
during this current century!

Additionally, Microsoft's MapPoint, MSN Maps, and MSN Virtual Earth all show
China, India, and Pakistan. If Microsoft wanted to take a stand on an issue,
shouldn't it be applied consistently? Why is it okay to show countries with
disputable borders on some applications, but not others? It is rather
frustrating for the users of their products.

Thanks!

"Al Edlund" wrote:

because of border disputes between some of the countries, the maps are
unavailable.
al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
I would like to use Visio's shapes for some mapping, but cannot seem to
find
a shape for China. I see that Pitcaim Island even has a shape... how
could
there be no shape for China??

Thanks!

there is an urban-legend that says the chinese government threw a microsoft
employee in jail to prove how upset they were with MS.
they weren't joking and they didn't care who thought it might be
unreasonable,
al
ps look at what yahoo is going through right now...

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Al,

Thank you for the prompt reply!

If you don't mind, I have a follow-up. I can understand Microsoft's
stance;
however, it has been years since China has been available as a shape,
surely
somewhere, someone must have made their own shape for China. You can't
just
leave it off the map. Does anyone have a third-party shape, or a download
available? It is unreasonable to not have some sort of solution, as I do
not
see China and Taiwan, nor India and Pakistan solving their border disputes
during this current century!

Additionally, Microsoft's MapPoint, MSN Maps, and MSN Virtual Earth all
show
China, India, and Pakistan. If Microsoft wanted to take a stand on an
issue,
shouldn't it be applied consistently? Why is it okay to show countries
with
disputable borders on some applications, but not others? It is rather
frustrating for the users of their products.

Thanks!

"Al Edlund" wrote:

because of border disputes between some of the countries, the maps are
unavailable.
al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
I would like to use Visio's shapes for some mapping, but cannot seem to
find
a shape for China. I see that Pitcaim Island even has a shape... how
could
there be no shape for China??

Thanks!

Al, I appreciate the insight. Those developers for all the other Microsoft
applications that include China must be tough as nails then! [sarcasm] I
wonder why only Visio teams were initimidated? [/sarcasm]

Also, have you heard if anyone developed a workaround?


"Al Edlund" wrote:

there is an urban-legend that says the chinese government threw a microsoft
employee in jail to prove how upset they were with MS.
they weren't joking and they didn't care who thought it might be
unreasonable,
al
ps look at what yahoo is going through right now...

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Al,

Thank you for the prompt reply!

If you don't mind, I have a follow-up. I can understand Microsoft's
stance;
however, it has been years since China has been available as a shape,
surely
somewhere, someone must have made their own shape for China. You can't
just
leave it off the map. Does anyone have a third-party shape, or a download
available? It is unreasonable to not have some sort of solution, as I do
not
see China and Taiwan, nor India and Pakistan solving their border disputes
during this current century!

Additionally, Microsoft's MapPoint, MSN Maps, and MSN Virtual Earth all
show
China, India, and Pakistan. If Microsoft wanted to take a stand on an
issue,
shouldn't it be applied consistently? Why is it okay to show countries
with
disputable borders on some applications, but not others? It is rather
frustrating for the users of their products.

Thanks!

"Al Edlund" wrote:

because of border disputes between some of the countries, the maps are
unavailable.
al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
I would like to use Visio's shapes for some mapping, but cannot seem to
find
a shape for China. I see that Pitcaim Island even has a shape... how
could
there be no shape for China??

Thanks!

Well you could do a search on the web for map stencils. I suspect that it
probably was available in the v2000 (pre-ms) version, so you might check
around for a copy of that as well. Surprisingly it turns out that the
requests for maps of that area are pretty common.

al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Al, I appreciate the insight. Those developers for all the other
Microsoft
applications that include China must be tough as nails then! [sarcasm] I
wonder why only Visio teams were initimidated? [/sarcasm]

Also, have you heard if anyone developed a workaround?


"Al Edlund" wrote:

there is an urban-legend that says the chinese government threw a
microsoft
employee in jail to prove how upset they were with MS.
they weren't joking and they didn't care who thought it might be
unreasonable,
al
ps look at what yahoo is going through right now...

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Al,

Thank you for the prompt reply!

If you don't mind, I have a follow-up. I can understand Microsoft's
stance;
however, it has been years since China has been available as a shape,
surely
somewhere, someone must have made their own shape for China. You can't
just
leave it off the map. Does anyone have a third-party shape, or a
download
available? It is unreasonable to not have some sort of solution, as I
do
not
see China and Taiwan, nor India and Pakistan solving their border
disputes
during this current century!

Additionally, Microsoft's MapPoint, MSN Maps, and MSN Virtual Earth all
show
China, India, and Pakistan. If Microsoft wanted to take a stand on an
issue,
shouldn't it be applied consistently? Why is it okay to show countries
with
disputable borders on some applications, but not others? It is rather
frustrating for the users of their products.

Thanks!

"Al Edlund" wrote:

because of border disputes between some of the countries, the maps are
unavailable.
al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
I would like to use Visio's shapes for some mapping, but cannot seem
to
find
a shape for China. I see that Pitcaim Island even has a shape...
how
could
there be no shape for China??

Thanks!

Michael,

Al is right, Visio 2K pre-MS came with those stencils.
"Explaining" your e-Mail address should solve your problem...

Frank


Al Edlund schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
...
Well you could do a search on the web for map stencils. I suspect that it
probably was available in the v2000 (pre-ms) version, so you might check
around for a copy of that as well. Surprisingly it turns out that the
requests for maps of that area are pretty common.

al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Al, I appreciate the insight. Those developers for all the other
Microsoft
applications that include China must be tough as nails then! [sarcasm]
I
wonder why only Visio teams were initimidated? [/sarcasm]

Also, have you heard if anyone developed a workaround?


"Al Edlund" wrote:

there is an urban-legend that says the chinese government threw a
microsoft
employee in jail to prove how upset they were with MS.
they weren't joking and they didn't care who thought it might be
unreasonable,
al
ps look at what yahoo is going through right now...

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Al,

Thank you for the prompt reply!

If you don't mind, I have a follow-up. I can understand Microsoft's
stance;
however, it has been years since China has been available as a shape,
surely
somewhere, someone must have made their own shape for China. You
can't
just
leave it off the map. Does anyone have a third-party shape, or a
download
available? It is unreasonable to not have some sort of solution, as
I
do
not
see China and Taiwan, nor India and Pakistan solving their border
disputes
during this current century!

Additionally, Microsoft's MapPoint, MSN Maps, and MSN Virtual Earth
all
show
China, India, and Pakistan. If Microsoft wanted to take a stand on
an
issue,
shouldn't it be applied consistently? Why is it okay to show
countries
with
disputable borders on some applications, but not others? It is
rather
frustrating for the users of their products.

Thanks!

"Al Edlund" wrote:

because of border disputes between some of the countries, the maps
are
unavailable.
al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
I would like to use Visio's shapes for some mapping, but cannot
seem
to
find
a shape for China. I see that Pitcaim Island even has a shape...
how
could
there be no shape for China??

Thanks!

Frank,

Ah, blasted. I have Visio 2000, but it is after the Microsoft purchase. If
you have further information, please feel free to email me at
. The email on this discussion is not mine, just
auto-created I guess.

-Michael

"Frank Wuenschel" wrote:

Michael,

Al is right, Visio 2K pre-MS came with those stencils.
"Explaining" your e-Mail address should solve your problem...

Frank


Al Edlund schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
...
Well you could do a search on the web for map stencils. I suspect that it
probably was available in the v2000 (pre-ms) version, so you might check
around for a copy of that as well. Surprisingly it turns out that the
requests for maps of that area are pretty common.

al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Al, I appreciate the insight. Those developers for all the other
Microsoft
applications that include China must be tough as nails then! [sarcasm]
I
wonder why only Visio teams were initimidated? [/sarcasm]

Also, have you heard if anyone developed a workaround?


"Al Edlund" wrote:

there is an urban-legend that says the chinese government threw a
microsoft
employee in jail to prove how upset they were with MS.
they weren't joking and they didn't care who thought it might be
unreasonable,
al
ps look at what yahoo is going through right now...

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Al,

Thank you for the prompt reply!

If you don't mind, I have a follow-up. I can understand Microsoft's
stance;
however, it has been years since China has been available as a shape,
surely
somewhere, someone must have made their own shape for China. You
can't
just
leave it off the map. Does anyone have a third-party shape, or a
download
available? It is unreasonable to not have some sort of solution, as
I
do
not
see China and Taiwan, nor India and Pakistan solving their border
disputes
during this current century!

Additionally, Microsoft's MapPoint, MSN Maps, and MSN Virtual Earth
all
show
China, India, and Pakistan. If Microsoft wanted to take a stand on
an
issue,
shouldn't it be applied consistently? Why is it okay to show
countries
with
disputable borders on some applications, but not others? It is
rather
frustrating for the users of their products.

Thanks!

"Al Edlund" wrote:

because of border disputes between some of the countries, the maps
are
unavailable.
al

"Michael" wrote in message
...
I would like to use Visio's shapes for some mapping, but cannot
seem
to
find
a shape for China. I see that Pitcaim Island even has a shape...
how
could
there be no shape for China??

Thanks!