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Old March 6th, 2010, 06:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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No, they are not. There is no ´ (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is used
for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and it is
part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key, when
shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is present at
all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be an accent over a
letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes to separate items in
display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but I see no practical use of
the ` at all except as part of the setup key for letters with a grave
accent.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
So you are saying that ´ and ` aren't "dead" keys on a standard US/UK
keyboard layout?

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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But that's still an international keyboard layout. With the standard
US/UK layout, we have to use the built-in keyboard shortcut: Ctrl+`, e.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are different
depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish keyboard, I will have to
type Shift+´ to accomplish `.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's Ctrl-`, e
(same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or l.c.).

On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be: è.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"deb" wrote in message

news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in Beef
Jardinie`re-









  #12  
Old March 6th, 2010, 06:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Stefan Blom[_3_]
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Interesting.

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"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
No, they are not. There is no ´ (acute accent) key per se; the ' key is
used for apostrophes/single quotes and (when shifted) double quotes, and
it is part of the setup key for letters with an acute accent. The ` key,
when shifted, gives ~. It's actually rather a mystery why this key is
present at all. I do use a tilde (so-called, though it's too low to be an
accent over a letter) instead of an en dash or round bullet sometimes to
separate items in display text, and of course it's used in URLs, but I see
no practical use of the ` at all except as part of the setup key for
letters with a grave accent.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
So you are saying that ´ and ` aren't "dead" keys on a standard US/UK
keyboard layout?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
But that's still an international keyboard layout. With the standard
US/UK layout, we have to use the built-in keyboard shortcut: Ctrl+`, e.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are different
depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish keyboard, I will have
to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's Ctrl-`, e
(same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or l.c.).

On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be: è.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"deb" wrote in message

news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in Beef
Jardinie`re-











  #13  
Old March 7th, 2010, 06:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Ian Rastall
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:16:04 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I see no practical use of the ` at all


It's a left-single quote, which can be used for that purpose in any
software that recognizes it as such. TeX is one application that uses
it.

Ian
  #14  
Old March 7th, 2010, 01:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default over score over a letter

It is *not* a left single quote in Word (which is what this NG is about); it
is a grave accent [U0060]. It can be used in the shortcut Ctrl+`, ` to
insert a left single quote if Word's AutoFormat As You Type doesn't do so
correctly, but it does not insert the left single quote character [U2018].

It is also an unwarranted intrusion in many contexts. I was frustrated for
years with one Web site to which I posted regularly that converted the '
character [U0027] to `, making, for example, "don't" appear as "don`t"--very
disconcerting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Ian Rastall" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:16:04 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I see no practical use of the ` at all


It's a left-single quote, which can be used for that purpose in any
software that recognizes it as such. TeX is one application that uses
it.

Ian


  #15  
Old March 7th, 2010, 10:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Twayne[_3_]
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Default over score over a letter

In ,
Peter T. Daniels typed:
? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.).

On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be:
è.


But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed. Unfortunately there
is no overscore on many keyboards so to use the keyboard, the language first
has to be worked out. It's like no one can READ these days.

Twayne


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"deb" wrote in message

news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-




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through personal experience does not become a
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  #16  
Old March 7th, 2010, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Twayne[_3_]
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Default over score over a letter

In ,
Stefan Blom typed:
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are
different depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish
keyboard, I will have to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.


And how would you do an overscore?



On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be:
è. --
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"deb" wrote in message

news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-




--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

  #17  
Old March 7th, 2010, 10:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Twayne[_3_]
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Default over score over a letter

In ,
Suzanne S. Barnhill typed:
But that's still an international keyboard layout. With the
standard US/UK layout, we have to use the built-in keyboard
shortcut: Ctrl+`, e.

"Stefan Blom" wrote
in message ...
I just wrote ` because the actual keystrokes required are
different depending on your keyboard layout. On my Swedish
keyboard, I will have to type Shift+´ to accomplish `.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.). On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will
be: è.


No, not for an overscore.


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"deb" wrote in message

news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-




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Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

  #18  
Old March 7th, 2010, 10:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Twayne[_3_]
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Default over score over a letter

In ,
Suzanne S. Barnhill typed:
It is *not* a left single quote in Word (which is what this
NG is about); it is a grave accent [U0060]. It can be used
in the shortcut Ctrl+`, ` to insert a left single quote if
Word's AutoFormat As You Type doesn't do so correctly, but
it does not insert the left single quote character [U2018].


And it's NOT what the OP asked for either! HOW do you do the overscore?
Jeez, talk about ignoring the OP!

Twayne



It is also an unwarranted intrusion in many contexts. I was
frustrated for years with one Web site to which I posted
regularly that converted the ' character [U0027] to `,
making, for example, "don't" appear as "don`t"--very
disconcerting.


"Ian Rastall" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:16:04 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I see no practical use of the ` at all


It's a left-single quote, which can be used for that
purpose in any software that recognizes it as such. TeX is
one application that uses it.

Ian




--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.
  #19  
Old March 7th, 2010, 11:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default over score over a letter

Did you actually read the original post? Although the subject line says
"over score," the actual message says:

how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in Beef Jardinie`re

From this it is clear that what the OP is looking for is an e with a grave
accent (regardless of what he calls it). I did refer to the
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm article in another post, but
that is NOT what the OP was asking for.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
Suzanne S. Barnhill typed:
It is *not* a left single quote in Word (which is what this
NG is about); it is a grave accent [U0060]. It can be used
in the shortcut Ctrl+`, ` to insert a left single quote if
Word's AutoFormat As You Type doesn't do so correctly, but
it does not insert the left single quote character [U2018].


And it's NOT what the OP asked for either! HOW do you do the overscore?
Jeez, talk about ignoring the OP!

Twayne



It is also an unwarranted intrusion in many contexts. I was
frustrated for years with one Web site to which I posted
regularly that converted the ' character [U0027] to `,
making, for example, "don't" appear as "don`t"--very
disconcerting. "Ian Rastall" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:16:04 -0600, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I see no practical use of the ` at all

It's a left-single quote, which can be used for that
purpose in any software that recognizes it as such. TeX is
one application that uses it.

Ian




--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.


  #20  
Old March 8th, 2010, 05:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels
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Default over score over a letter

Looking at the order in which you posted your four messages in this
thread, it's clear that you didn't read the messages you replied to.

On Mar 7, 5:02*pm, "Twayne" wrote:
,
Peter T. Daniels typed:

? Is that on a French keyboard? On "English (US)," it's
Ctrl-`, e (same for each vowel with grave accent, cap or
l.c.).


On Mar 5, 11:47 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
First type ` and then type the letter; the result will be:
.


But that's not an overscore, which is what the OP aksed. Unfortunately there
is no overscore on many keyboards so to use the keyboard, the language first
has to be worked out. It's like no one can READ these days.

Twayne



--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"deb" wrote in message


news


how do i put ` mark over top of the letter e such as in
Beef Jardinie`re-

 




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