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  #21  
Old March 6th, 2008, 01:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
JAmes
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 904
Default Copy paste !



Havent insulted a soul...
its hard lesson..but thats life, the best kind
I have no problem with a b or even c for that matter, cause i am woring on
my skill
i think you better than a 2nd look around...this ISNT the place to ruffle
your feathers
its for rolling up your sleves.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

All I can say is that I hope you are still young enough to learn (a)
courtesy, (b) humility and (c) a more realistic assessment of your skills,
not to mention the reality that insulting people is rarely the way to
motivate them to help you.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
OK look, like i said before ..this is not the first time i encountered
these
kinda games
and SORRY IAM NOT interesting in PLAYING .... (got better things to do)

ALSO said.. instructing ISNT for everone, Its a skill like anything eles,
unfortunatly many try it anyways,so dont take it personal.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Either you don't understand English at all, or you are a troll. In either
case, I'm done here. If you can restate the question you intended to ask
(since you don't seem satisfied with attempts to answer the question you
did
ask or willing to provide the additional information requested), I'll try
again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...


WHy would you adress that?
and how does that answer my question?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you not the same "james" who posted this question?

I have learnt how to insert a page in Ms Word 2002 (alt + enter)
now i went to copy from another Ms word 2002 document and paste it
into
the
inserted page i made in the 1st document...
trouble is , it loses all its formating, yet it does Not lose its
formatting
when i paste it into a newly opened document.
How can i paste it into the added page without loseig formatting?

My answer addresses the problems you are having with text losing
formatting
when it is copied and pasted into a different document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Mm thats all nice and stuff but doesnt have to do with my question

Are you replying to some1 eles question


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Do you deny that you wrote the post that says, "whats thats
mean..force
something to a new page?"

To go back to your original question, however, Alt+Enter does not
insert
a
page break, so I'm not sure what it's doing for you. Perhaps you
can
describe in what way your copy/pasted material is changing when you
paste
it
into an existing document?

Note that text will reflow if the margins in the target document
are
different from those in the source document. Moreover, if you paste
text
in
a given style into a document with a different definition of the
same
style,
the formatting will change (as Shauna's articles describe). There
are
other
possible changes based on section/document-level formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
NO..i asked about copying and pasting....
WHATS so hard about my question everytime i come on here?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You asked about the meaning of forcing text to the next page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Ok i dont know what this all is for
SOmehow we went in another direction here.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

When you insert a page break, you are forcing the text
following
it
to
appear on the next page. If that's your intent, there are
often
better
(less
irrevocable) ways of doing it.

1. If you are positive you always want the text to start a
new
page
(beginning of a chapter or section, for example), you can
insert
a
manual
page break, but often it is better to format the heading that
begins
the
new
part as "Page break before" (Format | Paragraph | Line and
Page
Breaks).
The
reason for this is that a manual page break takes on the
formatting
of
the
following paragraph (the heading), which can cause problems
if
the
heading
style includes shading.

2. If you're just trying to keep text together, and there's a
possibility
that the text will need to reflow when upstream text is
edited,
it's
better
to keep it together using the "Keep with next" and (if
necessary)
"Keep
lines together" check boxes in Format | Paragraph | Line and
Page
Breaks.
This will allow the text to flow as a block but will not
prevent
it
from
flowing back onto a previous page if there's room for it.

Where you can really get into trouble with manual page breaks
is
when
text
is reformatted for a different printer. If a page ending in a
manual
page
break is just one line too long to fit within the margins
enforced
by
the
printer, then one or two lines may be forced to the next
page;
because
of
the manual page break, there will be just the one line (or
probably
two,
thanks to widow/orphan control) on that page; the whole
document
will
alternate (almost) filled pages and two-line pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


















  #22  
Old March 6th, 2008, 02:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 31,786
Default Copy paste !

In that case, I suppose we could have saved a lot of time and grief here by
posting merely "Please refer to the replies to your similar question in the
word.newusers NG."

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

RIGHT, thats me, i posted in "new useres" and someone simply and quickly
answered my question there,.it may be of some value to note for referance
in
future btw.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I've been fairly incredulous myself; the OP someone else using the name
of
"james" posted a similar question in microsoft.public.word.newusers. In
his
first post, he wrote: "Now each time i come on here, in whatever
catigory,
it seems iam quickly able to stump number of people or something... i
dont
know why that is..." It seems he expected not to get an answer, but he
seems
to have been satisfied with an explanation of the Paste Options button.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot com wrote in message
...
I have watched this exchange with growing incredulity. Suzanne is very
helpful, very patient, and a good teacher. You, on the other hand,
appear
rude and ignorant; I shall be sure to ignore any further postings you
make.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"james" wrote in message
...
OK look, like i said before ..this is not the first time i encountered
these
kinda games
and SORRY IAM NOT interesting in PLAYING .... (got better things to
do)

ALSO said.. instructing ISNT for everone, Its a skill like anything
eles,
unfortunatly many try it anyways,so dont take it personal.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Either you don't understand English at all, or you are a troll. In
either
case, I'm done here. If you can restate the question you intended to
ask
(since you don't seem satisfied with attempts to answer the question
you
did
ask or willing to provide the additional information requested), I'll
try
again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...


WHy would you adress that?
and how does that answer my question?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you not the same "james" who posted this question?

I have learnt how to insert a page in Ms Word 2002 (alt + enter)
now i went to copy from another Ms word 2002 document and paste it
into
the
inserted page i made in the 1st document...
trouble is , it loses all its formating, yet it does Not lose its
formatting
when i paste it into a newly opened document.
How can i paste it into the added page without loseig formatting?

My answer addresses the problems you are having with text losing
formatting
when it is copied and pasted into a different document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Mm thats all nice and stuff but doesnt have to do with my
question

Are you replying to some1 eles question


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Do you deny that you wrote the post that says, "whats thats
mean..force
something to a new page?"

To go back to your original question, however, Alt+Enter does
not
insert
a
page break, so I'm not sure what it's doing for you. Perhaps
you
can
describe in what way your copy/pasted material is changing when
you
paste
it
into an existing document?

Note that text will reflow if the margins in the target
document
are
different from those in the source document. Moreover, if you
paste
text
in
a given style into a document with a different definition of
the
same
style,
the formatting will change (as Shauna's articles describe).
There
are
other
possible changes based on section/document-level formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
NO..i asked about copying and pasting....
WHATS so hard about my question everytime i come on here?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You asked about the meaning of forcing text to the next
page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Ok i dont know what this all is for
SOmehow we went in another direction here.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

When you insert a page break, you are forcing the text
following
it
to
appear on the next page. If that's your intent, there are
often
better
(less
irrevocable) ways of doing it.

1. If you are positive you always want the text to start
a
new
page
(beginning of a chapter or section, for example), you can
insert
a
manual
page break, but often it is better to format the heading
that
begins
the
new
part as "Page break before" (Format | Paragraph | Line
and
Page
Breaks).
The
reason for this is that a manual page break takes on the
formatting
of
the
following paragraph (the heading), which can cause
problems
if
the
heading
style includes shading.

2. If you're just trying to keep text together, and
there's
a
possibility
that the text will need to reflow when upstream text is
edited,
it's
better
to keep it together using the "Keep with next" and (if
necessary)
"Keep
lines together" check boxes in Format | Paragraph | Line
and
Page
Breaks.
This will allow the text to flow as a block but will not
prevent
it
from
flowing back onto a previous page if there's room for it.

Where you can really get into trouble with manual page
breaks is
when
text
is reformatted for a different printer. If a page ending
in
a
manual
page
break is just one line too long to fit within the margins
enforced
by
the
printer, then one or two lines may be forced to the next
page;
because
of
the manual page break, there will be just the one line
(or
probably
two,
thanks to widow/orphan control) on that page; the whole
document
will
alternate (almost) filled pages and two-line pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA





















  #23  
Old March 6th, 2008, 07:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Dan Freeman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 212
Default Copy paste !

If you're this rude to everyone who extends a helping hand you'll soon find
the number of those extended hands dwindling.

james wrote:
YOU,who EVer you are, dont have a clue what your talking about,
noones been rude
eccept for your insults here...i would advise you to DO JUST THAT,
stay apart from what doesnt concern ya

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

I have watched this exchange with growing incredulity. Suzanne is
very helpful, very patient, and a good teacher. You, on the other
hand, appear rude and ignorant; I shall be sure to ignore any
further postings you make.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"james" wrote in message
...
OK look, like i said before ..this is not the first time i
encountered these
kinda games
and SORRY IAM NOT interesting in PLAYING .... (got better things to
do)

ALSO said.. instructing ISNT for everone, Its a skill like anything
eles, unfortunatly many try it anyways,so dont take it personal.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Either you don't understand English at all, or you are a troll. In
either case, I'm done here. If you can restate the question you
intended to ask (since you don't seem satisfied with attempts to
answer the question you did
ask or willing to provide the additional information requested),
I'll try again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...


WHy would you adress that?
and how does that answer my question?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you not the same "james" who posted this question?

I have learnt how to insert a page in Ms Word 2002 (alt +
enter) now i went to copy from another Ms word 2002 document and
paste it into
the
inserted page i made in the 1st document...
trouble is , it loses all its formating, yet it does Not lose its
formatting
when i paste it into a newly opened document.
How can i paste it into the added page without loseig formatting?

My answer addresses the problems you are having with text losing
formatting
when it is copied and pasted into a different document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Mm thats all nice and stuff but doesnt have to do with my
question

Are you replying to some1 eles question


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Do you deny that you wrote the post that says, "whats thats
mean..force
something to a new page?"

To go back to your original question, however, Alt+Enter does
not insert
a
page break, so I'm not sure what it's doing for you. Perhaps
you can
describe in what way your copy/pasted material is changing
when you paste
it
into an existing document?

Note that text will reflow if the margins in the target
document are
different from those in the source document. Moreover, if you
paste text
in
a given style into a document with a different definition of
the same
style,
the formatting will change (as Shauna's articles describe).
There are
other
possible changes based on section/document-level formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
NO..i asked about copying and pasting....
WHATS so hard about my question everytime i come on here?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You asked about the meaning of forcing text to the next page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Ok i dont know what this all is for
SOmehow we went in another direction here.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

When you insert a page break, you are forcing the text
following
it
to
appear on the next page. If that's your intent, there are
often
better
(less
irrevocable) ways of doing it.

1. If you are positive you always want the text to start a
new
page
(beginning of a chapter or section, for example), you can
insert
a
manual
page break, but often it is better to format the heading
that begins
the
new
part as "Page break before" (Format | Paragraph | Line and
Page
Breaks).
The
reason for this is that a manual page break takes on the
formatting
of
the
following paragraph (the heading), which can cause problems
if
the
heading
style includes shading.

2. If you're just trying to keep text together, and
there's a possibility
that the text will need to reflow when upstream text is
edited,
it's
better
to keep it together using the "Keep with next" and (if
necessary)
"Keep
lines together" check boxes in Format | Paragraph | Line
and Page
Breaks.
This will allow the text to flow as a block but will not
prevent
it
from
flowing back onto a previous page if there's room for it.

Where you can really get into trouble with manual page
breaks is
when
text
is reformatted for a different printer. If a page ending
in a manual
page
break is just one line too long to fit within the margins
enforced
by
the
printer, then one or two lines may be forced to the next
page;
because
of
the manual page break, there will be just the one line (or
probably
two,
thanks to widow/orphan control) on that page; the whole
document
will
alternate (almost) filled pages and two-line pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



  #24  
Old March 6th, 2008, 09:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 31,786
Default Copy paste !

He'd certainly need to change his name before I'd try again, but I think I'd
recognize his style nonetheless. g

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Dan Freeman" wrote in message
...
If you're this rude to everyone who extends a helping hand you'll soon
find the number of those extended hands dwindling.

james wrote:
YOU,who EVer you are, dont have a clue what your talking about,
noones been rude
eccept for your insults here...i would advise you to DO JUST THAT,
stay apart from what doesnt concern ya

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

I have watched this exchange with growing incredulity. Suzanne is
very helpful, very patient, and a good teacher. You, on the other
hand, appear rude and ignorant; I shall be sure to ignore any
further postings you make.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"james" wrote in message
...
OK look, like i said before ..this is not the first time i
encountered these
kinda games
and SORRY IAM NOT interesting in PLAYING .... (got better things to
do)

ALSO said.. instructing ISNT for everone, Its a skill like anything
eles, unfortunatly many try it anyways,so dont take it personal.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Either you don't understand English at all, or you are a troll. In
either case, I'm done here. If you can restate the question you
intended to ask (since you don't seem satisfied with attempts to
answer the question you did
ask or willing to provide the additional information requested),
I'll try again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...


WHy would you adress that?
and how does that answer my question?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you not the same "james" who posted this question?

I have learnt how to insert a page in Ms Word 2002 (alt +
enter) now i went to copy from another Ms word 2002 document and
paste it into
the
inserted page i made in the 1st document...
trouble is , it loses all its formating, yet it does Not lose its
formatting
when i paste it into a newly opened document.
How can i paste it into the added page without loseig formatting?

My answer addresses the problems you are having with text losing
formatting
when it is copied and pasted into a different document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Mm thats all nice and stuff but doesnt have to do with my
question

Are you replying to some1 eles question


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Do you deny that you wrote the post that says, "whats thats
mean..force
something to a new page?"

To go back to your original question, however, Alt+Enter does
not insert
a
page break, so I'm not sure what it's doing for you. Perhaps
you can
describe in what way your copy/pasted material is changing
when you paste
it
into an existing document?

Note that text will reflow if the margins in the target
document are
different from those in the source document. Moreover, if you
paste text
in
a given style into a document with a different definition of
the same
style,
the formatting will change (as Shauna's articles describe).
There are
other
possible changes based on section/document-level formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
NO..i asked about copying and pasting....
WHATS so hard about my question everytime i come on here?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You asked about the meaning of forcing text to the next page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Ok i dont know what this all is for
SOmehow we went in another direction here.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

When you insert a page break, you are forcing the text
following
it
to
appear on the next page. If that's your intent, there are
often
better
(less
irrevocable) ways of doing it.

1. If you are positive you always want the text to start a
new
page
(beginning of a chapter or section, for example), you can
insert
a
manual
page break, but often it is better to format the heading
that begins
the
new
part as "Page break before" (Format | Paragraph | Line and
Page
Breaks).
The
reason for this is that a manual page break takes on the
formatting
of
the
following paragraph (the heading), which can cause problems
if
the
heading
style includes shading.

2. If you're just trying to keep text together, and
there's a possibility
that the text will need to reflow when upstream text is
edited,
it's
better
to keep it together using the "Keep with next" and (if
necessary)
"Keep
lines together" check boxes in Format | Paragraph | Line
and Page
Breaks.
This will allow the text to flow as a block but will not
prevent
it
from
flowing back onto a previous page if there's room for it.

Where you can really get into trouble with manual page
breaks is
when
text
is reformatted for a different printer. If a page ending
in a manual
page
break is just one line too long to fit within the margins
enforced
by
the
printer, then one or two lines may be forced to the next
page;
because
of
the manual page break, there will be just the one line (or
probably
two,
thanks to widow/orphan control) on that page; the whole
document
will
alternate (almost) filled pages and two-line pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA





  #25  
Old March 8th, 2008, 11:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
JAmes
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 904
Default Copy paste !

Same goes to you... if your aparty to this game playing and feather ruffling
nonscence, then dont reply to me or you will get the same reality check.
Id advise YOU to also check the "new useres" area, to see how this thread
properly progressed into succession without any extra issues.

have a nice day

"Dan Freeman" wrote:

If you're this rude to everyone who extends a helping hand you'll soon find
the number of those extended hands dwindling.

james wrote:
YOU,who EVer you are, dont have a clue what your talking about,
noones been rude
eccept for your insults here...i would advise you to DO JUST THAT,
stay apart from what doesnt concern ya

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

I have watched this exchange with growing incredulity. Suzanne is
very helpful, very patient, and a good teacher. You, on the other
hand, appear rude and ignorant; I shall be sure to ignore any
further postings you make.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"james" wrote in message
...
OK look, like i said before ..this is not the first time i
encountered these
kinda games
and SORRY IAM NOT interesting in PLAYING .... (got better things to
do)

ALSO said.. instructing ISNT for everone, Its a skill like anything
eles, unfortunatly many try it anyways,so dont take it personal.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Either you don't understand English at all, or you are a troll. In
either case, I'm done here. If you can restate the question you
intended to ask (since you don't seem satisfied with attempts to
answer the question you did
ask or willing to provide the additional information requested),
I'll try again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...


WHy would you adress that?
and how does that answer my question?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you not the same "james" who posted this question?

I have learnt how to insert a page in Ms Word 2002 (alt +
enter) now i went to copy from another Ms word 2002 document and
paste it into
the
inserted page i made in the 1st document...
trouble is , it loses all its formating, yet it does Not lose its
formatting
when i paste it into a newly opened document.
How can i paste it into the added page without loseig formatting?

My answer addresses the problems you are having with text losing
formatting
when it is copied and pasted into a different document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Mm thats all nice and stuff but doesnt have to do with my
question

Are you replying to some1 eles question


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Do you deny that you wrote the post that says, "whats thats
mean..force
something to a new page?"

To go back to your original question, however, Alt+Enter does
not insert
a
page break, so I'm not sure what it's doing for you. Perhaps
you can
describe in what way your copy/pasted material is changing
when you paste
it
into an existing document?

Note that text will reflow if the margins in the target
document are
different from those in the source document. Moreover, if you
paste text
in
a given style into a document with a different definition of
the same
style,
the formatting will change (as Shauna's articles describe).
There are
other
possible changes based on section/document-level formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
NO..i asked about copying and pasting....
WHATS so hard about my question everytime i come on here?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You asked about the meaning of forcing text to the next page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Ok i dont know what this all is for
SOmehow we went in another direction here.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

When you insert a page break, you are forcing the text
following
it
to
appear on the next page. If that's your intent, there are
often
better
(less
irrevocable) ways of doing it.

1. If you are positive you always want the text to start a
new
page
(beginning of a chapter or section, for example), you can
insert
a
manual
page break, but often it is better to format the heading
that begins
the
new
part as "Page break before" (Format | Paragraph | Line and
Page
Breaks).
The
reason for this is that a manual page break takes on the
formatting
of
the
following paragraph (the heading), which can cause problems
if
the
heading
style includes shading.

2. If you're just trying to keep text together, and
there's a possibility
that the text will need to reflow when upstream text is
edited,
it's
better
to keep it together using the "Keep with next" and (if
necessary)
"Keep
lines together" check boxes in Format | Paragraph | Line
and Page
Breaks.
This will allow the text to flow as a block but will not
prevent
it
from
flowing back onto a previous page if there's room for it.

Where you can really get into trouble with manual page
breaks is
when
text
is reformatted for a different printer. If a page ending
in a manual
page
break is just one line too long to fit within the margins
enforced
by
the
printer, then one or two lines may be forced to the next
page;
because
of
the manual page break, there will be just the one line (or
probably
two,
thanks to widow/orphan control) on that page; the whole
document
will
alternate (almost) filled pages and two-line pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA




  #26  
Old March 9th, 2008, 12:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 31,786
Default Copy paste !

I still don't understand why you think we're playing games. You asked a
question. We attempted to answer it. You asked another question suggested by
the first attempt at an answer. We attempted to answer that. Everyone here
is just trying to help, and you have alienated all of us with your
belligerent attitude.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
Same goes to you... if your aparty to this game playing and feather
ruffling
nonscence, then dont reply to me or you will get the same reality check.
Id advise YOU to also check the "new useres" area, to see how this
thread
properly progressed into succession without any extra issues.

have a nice day

"Dan Freeman" wrote:

If you're this rude to everyone who extends a helping hand you'll soon
find
the number of those extended hands dwindling.

james wrote:
YOU,who EVer you are, dont have a clue what your talking about,
noones been rude
eccept for your insults here...i would advise you to DO JUST THAT,
stay apart from what doesnt concern ya

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

I have watched this exchange with growing incredulity. Suzanne is
very helpful, very patient, and a good teacher. You, on the other
hand, appear rude and ignorant; I shall be sure to ignore any
further postings you make.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"james" wrote in message
...
OK look, like i said before ..this is not the first time i
encountered these
kinda games
and SORRY IAM NOT interesting in PLAYING .... (got better things to
do)

ALSO said.. instructing ISNT for everone, Its a skill like anything
eles, unfortunatly many try it anyways,so dont take it personal.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Either you don't understand English at all, or you are a troll. In
either case, I'm done here. If you can restate the question you
intended to ask (since you don't seem satisfied with attempts to
answer the question you did
ask or willing to provide the additional information requested),
I'll try again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...


WHy would you adress that?
and how does that answer my question?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you not the same "james" who posted this question?

I have learnt how to insert a page in Ms Word 2002 (alt +
enter) now i went to copy from another Ms word 2002 document and
paste it into
the
inserted page i made in the 1st document...
trouble is , it loses all its formating, yet it does Not lose its
formatting
when i paste it into a newly opened document.
How can i paste it into the added page without loseig formatting?

My answer addresses the problems you are having with text losing
formatting
when it is copied and pasted into a different document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Mm thats all nice and stuff but doesnt have to do with my
question

Are you replying to some1 eles question


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Do you deny that you wrote the post that says, "whats thats
mean..force
something to a new page?"

To go back to your original question, however, Alt+Enter does
not insert
a
page break, so I'm not sure what it's doing for you. Perhaps
you can
describe in what way your copy/pasted material is changing
when you paste
it
into an existing document?

Note that text will reflow if the margins in the target
document are
different from those in the source document. Moreover, if you
paste text
in
a given style into a document with a different definition of
the same
style,
the formatting will change (as Shauna's articles describe).
There are
other
possible changes based on section/document-level formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
NO..i asked about copying and pasting....
WHATS so hard about my question everytime i come on here?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You asked about the meaning of forcing text to the next page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Ok i dont know what this all is for
SOmehow we went in another direction here.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

When you insert a page break, you are forcing the text
following
it
to
appear on the next page. If that's your intent, there are
often
better
(less
irrevocable) ways of doing it.

1. If you are positive you always want the text to start a
new
page
(beginning of a chapter or section, for example), you can
insert
a
manual
page break, but often it is better to format the heading
that begins
the
new
part as "Page break before" (Format | Paragraph | Line and
Page
Breaks).
The
reason for this is that a manual page break takes on the
formatting
of
the
following paragraph (the heading), which can cause problems
if
the
heading
style includes shading.

2. If you're just trying to keep text together, and
there's a possibility
that the text will need to reflow when upstream text is
edited,
it's
better
to keep it together using the "Keep with next" and (if
necessary)
"Keep
lines together" check boxes in Format | Paragraph | Line
and Page
Breaks.
This will allow the text to flow as a block but will not
prevent
it
from
flowing back onto a previous page if there's room for it.

Where you can really get into trouble with manual page
breaks is
when
text
is reformatted for a different printer. If a page ending
in a manual
page
break is just one line too long to fit within the margins
enforced
by
the
printer, then one or two lines may be forced to the next
page;
because
of
the manual page break, there will be just the one line (or
probably
two,
thanks to widow/orphan control) on that page; the whole
document
will
alternate (almost) filled pages and two-line pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA






  #27  
Old March 9th, 2008, 04:17 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Dan Freeman
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 212
Default Copy paste !

Walk away.

Take a deep breath. Let it out slowly.

Sometimes it's all you can do. sigh

Dan


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
I still don't understand why you think we're playing games. You asked
a question. We attempted to answer it. You asked another question
suggested by the first attempt at an answer. We attempted to answer
that. Everyone here is just trying to help, and you have alienated
all of us with your belligerent attitude.


"james" wrote in message
...
Same goes to you... if your aparty to this game playing and feather
ruffling
nonscence, then dont reply to me or you will get the same reality
check. Id advise YOU to also check the "new useres" area, to see how
this thread
properly progressed into succession without any extra issues.

have a nice day

"Dan Freeman" wrote:

If you're this rude to everyone who extends a helping hand you'll
soon find
the number of those extended hands dwindling.

james wrote:
YOU,who EVer you are, dont have a clue what your talking about,
noones been rude
eccept for your insults here...i would advise you to DO JUST THAT,
stay apart from what doesnt concern ya

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

I have watched this exchange with growing incredulity. Suzanne is
very helpful, very patient, and a good teacher. You, on the other
hand, appear rude and ignorant; I shall be sure to ignore any
further postings you make.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"james" wrote in message
...
OK look, like i said before ..this is not the first time i
encountered these
kinda games
and SORRY IAM NOT interesting in PLAYING .... (got better things
to do)

ALSO said.. instructing ISNT for everone, Its a skill like
anything eles, unfortunatly many try it anyways,so dont take it
personal. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Either you don't understand English at all, or you are a troll.
In either case, I'm done here. If you can restate the question
you intended to ask (since you don't seem satisfied with
attempts to answer the question you did
ask or willing to provide the additional information requested),
I'll try again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...


WHy would you adress that?
and how does that answer my question?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you not the same "james" who posted this question?

I have learnt how to insert a page in Ms Word 2002 (alt +
enter) now i went to copy from another Ms word 2002 document
and paste it into
the
inserted page i made in the 1st document...
trouble is , it loses all its formating, yet it does Not lose
its formatting
when i paste it into a newly opened document.
How can i paste it into the added page without loseig
formatting? My answer addresses the problems you are having with
text
losing formatting
when it is copied and pasted into a different document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Mm thats all nice and stuff but doesnt have to do with my
question

Are you replying to some1 eles question


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Do you deny that you wrote the post that says, "whats thats
mean..force
something to a new page?"

To go back to your original question, however, Alt+Enter
does not insert
a
page break, so I'm not sure what it's doing for you. Perhaps
you can
describe in what way your copy/pasted material is changing
when you paste
it
into an existing document?

Note that text will reflow if the margins in the target
document are
different from those in the source document. Moreover, if
you paste text
in
a given style into a document with a different definition of
the same
style,
the formatting will change (as Shauna's articles describe).
There are
other
possible changes based on section/document-level formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
NO..i asked about copying and pasting....
WHATS so hard about my question everytime i come on here?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You asked about the meaning of forcing text to the next
page. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Ok i dont know what this all is for
SOmehow we went in another direction here.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

When you insert a page break, you are forcing the text
following
it
to
appear on the next page. If that's your intent, there
are often
better
(less
irrevocable) ways of doing it.

1. If you are positive you always want the text to
start a new
page
(beginning of a chapter or section, for example), you
can insert
a
manual
page break, but often it is better to format the heading
that begins
the
new
part as "Page break before" (Format | Paragraph | Line
and Page
Breaks).
The
reason for this is that a manual page break takes on the
formatting
of
the
following paragraph (the heading), which can cause
problems if
the
heading
style includes shading.

2. If you're just trying to keep text together, and
there's a possibility
that the text will need to reflow when upstream text is
edited,
it's
better
to keep it together using the "Keep with next" and (if
necessary)
"Keep
lines together" check boxes in Format | Paragraph | Line
and Page
Breaks.
This will allow the text to flow as a block but will not
prevent
it
from
flowing back onto a previous page if there's room for
it. Where you can really get into trouble with manual page
breaks is
when
text
is reformatted for a different printer. If a page ending
in a manual
page
break is just one line too long to fit within the
margins enforced
by
the
printer, then one or two lines may be forced to the next
page;
because
of
the manual page break, there will be just the one line
(or probably
two,
thanks to widow/orphan control) on that page; the whole
document
will
alternate (almost) filled pages and two-line pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



  #28  
Old March 9th, 2008, 04:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 31,786
Default Copy paste !

Apparently.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"Dan Freeman" wrote in message
...
Walk away.

Take a deep breath. Let it out slowly.

Sometimes it's all you can do. sigh

Dan


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
I still don't understand why you think we're playing games. You asked
a question. We attempted to answer it. You asked another question
suggested by the first attempt at an answer. We attempted to answer
that. Everyone here is just trying to help, and you have alienated
all of us with your belligerent attitude.


"james" wrote in message
...
Same goes to you... if your aparty to this game playing and feather
ruffling
nonscence, then dont reply to me or you will get the same reality
check. Id advise YOU to also check the "new useres" area, to see how
this thread
properly progressed into succession without any extra issues.

have a nice day

"Dan Freeman" wrote:

If you're this rude to everyone who extends a helping hand you'll
soon find
the number of those extended hands dwindling.

james wrote:
YOU,who EVer you are, dont have a clue what your talking about,
noones been rude
eccept for your insults here...i would advise you to DO JUST THAT,
stay apart from what doesnt concern ya

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

I have watched this exchange with growing incredulity. Suzanne is
very helpful, very patient, and a good teacher. You, on the other
hand, appear rude and ignorant; I shall be sure to ignore any
further postings you make.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"james" wrote in message
...
OK look, like i said before ..this is not the first time i
encountered these
kinda games
and SORRY IAM NOT interesting in PLAYING .... (got better things
to do)

ALSO said.. instructing ISNT for everone, Its a skill like
anything eles, unfortunatly many try it anyways,so dont take it
personal. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Either you don't understand English at all, or you are a troll.
In either case, I'm done here. If you can restate the question
you intended to ask (since you don't seem satisfied with
attempts to answer the question you did
ask or willing to provide the additional information requested),
I'll try again.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...


WHy would you adress that?
and how does that answer my question?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Are you not the same "james" who posted this question?

I have learnt how to insert a page in Ms Word 2002 (alt +
enter) now i went to copy from another Ms word 2002 document
and paste it into
the
inserted page i made in the 1st document...
trouble is , it loses all its formating, yet it does Not lose
its formatting
when i paste it into a newly opened document.
How can i paste it into the added page without loseig
formatting? My answer addresses the problems you are having with
text
losing formatting
when it is copied and pasted into a different document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Mm thats all nice and stuff but doesnt have to do with my
question

Are you replying to some1 eles question


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Do you deny that you wrote the post that says, "whats thats
mean..force
something to a new page?"

To go back to your original question, however, Alt+Enter
does not insert
a
page break, so I'm not sure what it's doing for you. Perhaps
you can
describe in what way your copy/pasted material is changing
when you paste
it
into an existing document?

Note that text will reflow if the margins in the target
document are
different from those in the source document. Moreover, if
you paste text
in
a given style into a document with a different definition of
the same
style,
the formatting will change (as Shauna's articles describe).
There are
other
possible changes based on section/document-level formatting.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...
NO..i asked about copying and pasting....
WHATS so hard about my question everytime i come on here?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You asked about the meaning of forcing text to the next
page. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"james" wrote in message
...

Ok i dont know what this all is for
SOmehow we went in another direction here.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

When you insert a page break, you are forcing the text
following
it
to
appear on the next page. If that's your intent, there
are often
better
(less
irrevocable) ways of doing it.

1. If you are positive you always want the text to
start a new
page
(beginning of a chapter or section, for example), you
can insert
a
manual
page break, but often it is better to format the heading
that begins
the
new
part as "Page break before" (Format | Paragraph | Line
and Page
Breaks).
The
reason for this is that a manual page break takes on the
formatting
of
the
following paragraph (the heading), which can cause
problems if
the
heading
style includes shading.

2. If you're just trying to keep text together, and
there's a possibility
that the text will need to reflow when upstream text is
edited,
it's
better
to keep it together using the "Keep with next" and (if
necessary)
"Keep
lines together" check boxes in Format | Paragraph | Line
and Page
Breaks.
This will allow the text to flow as a block but will not
prevent
it
from
flowing back onto a previous page if there's room for
it. Where you can really get into trouble with manual page
breaks is
when
text
is reformatted for a different printer. If a page ending
in a manual
page
break is just one line too long to fit within the
margins enforced
by
the
printer, then one or two lines may be forced to the next
page;
because
of
the manual page break, there will be just the one line
(or probably
two,
thanks to widow/orphan control) on that page; the whole
document
will
alternate (almost) filled pages and two-line pages.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA





 




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