Font problems

I have seen the issue mentioned before in the group, but we are wondering
if/when there is going to be a change. When trying to modify the default
font type for the "Normal table", we are unable to. All of our forms must be
uniform as we deal with Insurance forms. Unfortunately, the "Normal table"
is NOT of the font type or size that we are using. It is set at Times New
Roman and seems to be at size 12 point. We can create other table types, but
they are based off the "Normal" table and sometimes when printing out of our
application, the font type changes back to TNR 12 point. Also, we are NOT
able to change to font size in any table to 10 point. We can select any
other size, but not the 10 point.

We are using Word 2003 as part of the MS Office 2003 Professional suite. Is
Microsoft ever going to allow us to change the "Normal table" like we can
change the "normal" font and even the "normal.dot". Is there any good work
around for this? Thanks.

Hi Kevin,

"Unformatted" text in a table is in the "Normal" paragraph style... That's
where the "Times New Roman 12 pt" comes from.

Because of a bug (caused by "Normal" being 10 pt in older versions) you
can't change the size to 10 pt.
The work-around is to change the "Normal" paragraph style to 10 pt.

And because of a rather questionable design decision, you can change the
font of "Normal" to some other font, but once you change the "Normal"
paragraph style, the corresponding setting (say the font in this case...
same with other formatting) of the table style will be ignored.

I usually try to not change "Normal" (except maybe change it to 10 pt), and
set the font and font size in the table style(s) "Table Grid", "Normal
Table"...

Regards,
Klaus


"Kevin" wrote:
I have seen the issue mentioned before in the group, but we are wondering
if/when there is going to be a change. When trying to modify the default
font type for the "Normal table", we are unable to. All of our forms must
be
uniform as we deal with Insurance forms. Unfortunately, the "Normal
table"
is NOT of the font type or size that we are using. It is set at Times New
Roman and seems to be at size 12 point. We can create other table types,
but
they are based off the "Normal" table and sometimes when printing out of
our
application, the font type changes back to TNR 12 point. Also, we are NOT
able to change to font size in any table to 10 point. We can select any
other size, but not the 10 point.

We are using Word 2003 as part of the MS Office 2003 Professional suite.
Is
Microsoft ever going to allow us to change the "Normal table" like we can
change the "normal" font and even the "normal.dot". Is there any good
work
around for this? Thanks.

Does anyone know if Microsoft is going to change this so we CAN modifty the
"Normal Table"?
Thanks.

"Klaus Linke" wrote:

Hi Kevin,

"Unformatted" text in a table is in the "Normal" paragraph style... That's
where the "Times New Roman 12 pt" comes from.

Because of a bug (caused by "Normal" being 10 pt in older versions) you
can't change the size to 10 pt.
The work-around is to change the "Normal" paragraph style to 10 pt.

And because of a rather questionable design decision, you can change the
font of "Normal" to some other font, but once you change the "Normal"
paragraph style, the corresponding setting (say the font in this case...
same with other formatting) of the table style will be ignored.

I usually try to not change "Normal" (except maybe change it to 10 pt), and
set the font and font size in the table style(s) "Table Grid", "Normal
Table"...

Regards,
Klaus


"Kevin" wrote:
I have seen the issue mentioned before in the group, but we are wondering
if/when there is going to be a change. When trying to modify the default
font type for the "Normal table", we are unable to. All of our forms must
be
uniform as we deal with Insurance forms. Unfortunately, the "Normal
table"
is NOT of the font type or size that we are using. It is set at Times New
Roman and seems to be at size 12 point. We can create other table types,
but
they are based off the "Normal" table and sometimes when printing out of
our
application, the font type changes back to TNR 12 point. Also, we are NOT
able to change to font size in any table to 10 point. We can select any
other size, but not the 10 point.

We are using Word 2003 as part of the MS Office 2003 Professional suite.
Is
Microsoft ever going to allow us to change the "Normal table" like we can
change the "normal" font and even the "normal.dot". Is there any good
work
around for this? Thanks.

Sorry, no, I don't think so. You could post a suggestion on the web
interface to these newsgroups, maybe that could help to get it on the radar
for MS.
The more complaints the better...

:-/ Klaus




"Kevin" wrote:
Does anyone know if Microsoft is going to change this so we CAN modifty
the
"Normal Table"?
Thanks.

"Klaus Linke" wrote:

Hi Kevin,

"Unformatted" text in a table is in the "Normal" paragraph style...
That's
where the "Times New Roman 12 pt" comes from.

Because of a bug (caused by "Normal" being 10 pt in older versions) you
can't change the size to 10 pt.
The work-around is to change the "Normal" paragraph style to 10 pt.

And because of a rather questionable design decision, you can change the
font of "Normal" to some other font, but once you change the "Normal"
paragraph style, the corresponding setting (say the font in this case...
same with other formatting) of the table style will be ignored.

I usually try to not change "Normal" (except maybe change it to 10 pt),
and
set the font and font size in the table style(s) "Table Grid", "Normal
Table"...

Regards,
Klaus


"Kevin" wrote:
I have seen the issue mentioned before in the group, but we are
wondering
if/when there is going to be a change. When trying to modify the
default
font type for the "Normal table", we are unable to. All of our forms
must
be
uniform as we deal with Insurance forms. Unfortunately, the "Normal
table"
is NOT of the font type or size that we are using. It is set at Times
New
Roman and seems to be at size 12 point. We can create other table
types,
but
they are based off the "Normal" table and sometimes when printing out
of
our
application, the font type changes back to TNR 12 point. Also, we are
NOT
able to change to font size in any table to 10 point. We can select
any
other size, but not the 10 point.

We are using Word 2003 as part of the MS Office 2003 Professional
suite.
Is
Microsoft ever going to allow us to change the "Normal table" like we
can
change the "normal" font and even the "normal.dot". Is there any good
work
around for this? Thanks.

How do I go about doing that? I am going through the web I thought...Thanks.


"Klaus Linke" wrote:

Sorry, no, I don't think so. You could post a suggestion on the web
interface to these newsgroups, maybe that could help to get it on the radar
for MS.
The more complaints the better...

:-/ Klaus




"Kevin" wrote:
Does anyone know if Microsoft is going to change this so we CAN modifty
the
"Normal Table"?
Thanks.

"Klaus Linke" wrote:

Hi Kevin,

"Unformatted" text in a table is in the "Normal" paragraph style...
That's
where the "Times New Roman 12 pt" comes from.

Because of a bug (caused by "Normal" being 10 pt in older versions) you
can't change the size to 10 pt.
The work-around is to change the "Normal" paragraph style to 10 pt.

And because of a rather questionable design decision, you can change the
font of "Normal" to some other font, but once you change the "Normal"
paragraph style, the corresponding setting (say the font in this case...
same with other formatting) of the table style will be ignored.

I usually try to not change "Normal" (except maybe change it to 10 pt),
and
set the font and font size in the table style(s) "Table Grid", "Normal
Table"...

Regards,
Klaus


"Kevin" wrote:
I have seen the issue mentioned before in the group, but we are
wondering
if/when there is going to be a change. When trying to modify the
default
font type for the "Normal table", we are unable to. All of our forms
must
be
uniform as we deal with Insurance forms. Unfortunately, the "Normal
table"
is NOT of the font type or size that we are using. It is set at Times
New
Roman and seems to be at size 12 point. We can create other table
types,
but
they are based off the "Normal" table and sometimes when printing out
of
our
application, the font type changes back to TNR 12 point. Also, we are
NOT
able to change to font size in any table to 10 point. We can select
any
other size, but not the 10 point.

We are using Word 2003 as part of the MS Office 2003 Professional
suite.
Is
Microsoft ever going to allow us to change the "Normal table" like we
can
change the "normal" font and even the "normal.dot". Is there any good
work
around for this? Thanks.

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"Kevin" wrote in message
...
How do I go about doing that? I am going through the web I
thought...Thanks.


"Klaus Linke" wrote:

Sorry, no, I don't think so. You could post a suggestion on the web
interface to these newsgroups, maybe that could help to get it on the
radar
for MS.
The more complaints the better...

:-/ Klaus




"Kevin" wrote:
Does anyone know if Microsoft is going to change this so we CAN
modifty
the
"Normal Table"?
Thanks.

"Klaus Linke" wrote:

Hi Kevin,

"Unformatted" text in a table is in the "Normal" paragraph style...
That's
where the "Times New Roman 12 pt" comes from.

Because of a bug (caused by "Normal" being 10 pt in older versions)
you
can't change the size to 10 pt.
The work-around is to change the "Normal" paragraph style to 10 pt.

And because of a rather questionable design decision, you can change
the
font of "Normal" to some other font, but once you change the "Normal"
paragraph style, the corresponding setting (say the font in this
case...
same with other formatting) of the table style will be ignored.

I usually try to not change "Normal" (except maybe change it to 10
pt),
and
set the font and font size in the table style(s) "Table Grid",
"Normal
Table"...

Regards,
Klaus


"Kevin" wrote:
I have seen the issue mentioned before in the group, but we are
wondering
if/when there is going to be a change. When trying to modify the
default
font type for the "Normal table", we are unable to. All of our
forms
must
be
uniform as we deal with Insurance forms. Unfortunately, the
"Normal
table"
is NOT of the font type or size that we are using. It is set at
Times
New
Roman and seems to be at size 12 point. We can create other table
types,
but
they are based off the "Normal" table and sometimes when printing
out
of
our
application, the font type changes back to TNR 12 point. Also, we
are
NOT
able to change to font size in any table to 10 point. We can
select
any
other size, but not the 10 point.

We are using Word 2003 as part of the MS Office 2003 Professional
suite.
Is
Microsoft ever going to allow us to change the "Normal table" like
we
can
change the "normal" font and even the "normal.dot". Is there any
good
work
around for this? Thanks.