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I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are
vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier versions. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the 'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact icon resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in its lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon execpt those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't understanding each other as to the format of the icon. This is a non-issue. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle in the lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any contact I create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an existing contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same Company) I stil get the old icon. I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year old, but some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing is, everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything after 4/18 does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon? Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance problem. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally created in Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts were created from scratch only in Outlook 2003? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation Date, then I sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created after April 18th 2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact created before 4/18 HAS the little circle thingie. I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ, since this doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier versions of Outlook. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2 different icons. One type is the standard icon that looks like a little business card. The other type is the same little business card, but also has a little circle in the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of resembles a little clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I know of). Most of my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner of the business card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent additions. -- Kevin Carlson |
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It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did no
importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about importing or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a time using the standard menu options. Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in the left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always use the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook 2003 I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have, when viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that looks like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier versions. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the 'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact icon resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in its lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon execpt those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't understanding each other as to the format of the icon. This is a non-issue. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle in the lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any contact I create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an existing contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same Company) I stil get the old icon. I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year old, but some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing is, everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything after 4/18 does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon? Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance problem. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally created in Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts were created from scratch only in Outlook 2003? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation Date, then I sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created after April 18th 2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact created before 4/18 HAS the little circle thingie. I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ, since this doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier versions of Outlook. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2 different icons. One type is the standard icon that looks like a little business card. The other type is the same little business card, but also has a little circle in the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of resembles a little clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I know of). Most of my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner of the business card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent additions. -- Kevin Carlson |
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But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions, as
long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your current installation? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did no importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about importing or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a time using the standard menu options. Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in the left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always use the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook 2003 I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have, when viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that looks like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier versions. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the 'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact icon resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in its lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon execpt those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't understanding each other as to the format of the icon. This is a non-issue. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle in the lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any contact I create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an existing contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same Company) I stil get the old icon. I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year old, but some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing is, everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything after 4/18 does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon? Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance problem. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally created in Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts were created from scratch only in Outlook 2003? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation Date, then I sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created after April 18th 2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact created before 4/18 HAS the little circle thingie. I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ, since this doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier versions of Outlook. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2 different icons. One type is the standard icon that looks like a little business card. The other type is the same little business card, but also has a little circle in the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of resembles a little clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I know of). Most of my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner of the business card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent additions. -- Kevin Carlson |
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I've never had to export. I've always installed newer versions of Outlook
over older versions. When I bought new computers (twice) I manually entered my few contacts via keyboard. And most of my contacts were created for the first time in Office 2003. See, I used to use Outlook for only a few dozen contacts. Then, with Outlook 2003, I started converting all of customers' business cards to Outlook. That's when my contact list really exploded And that wouldn't explain my current situation. All contacts before a 4/18/05 have one icon, all after 4/18/05 have a different icon, even though I've changed nothing. It also wouldn't explain how all of the prior contacts (some going back 12 years) all have the same icon, or why some contacts created in Outlook 2003 have one icon, while others have a different icon. Know what, Russ? You've been a real patient prince about this whole thing. But bottom line is 'It's not that big of a deal. I'd say you've gone way WAY out of your way to help on this, but let's close out the thread and call it "Unanswerable ... the truth is out there ... somewhere". Thanks for your help on this. You earned your pay. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions, as long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your current installation? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did no importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about importing or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a time using the standard menu options. Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in the left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always use the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook 2003 I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have, when viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that looks like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier versions. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the 'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact icon resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in its lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon execpt those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't understanding each other as to the format of the icon. This is a non-issue. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle in the lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any contact I create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an existing contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same Company) I stil get the old icon. I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year old, but some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing is, everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything after 4/18 does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon? Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance problem. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally created in Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts were created from scratch only in Outlook 2003? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation Date, then I sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created after April 18th 2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact created before 4/18 HAS the little circle thingie. I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ, since this doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier versions of Outlook. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2 different icons. One type is the standard icon that looks like a little business card. The other type is the same little business card, but also has a little circle in the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of resembles a little clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I know of). Most of my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner of the business card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent additions. -- Kevin Carlson |
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Well since I get paid nothing, I'll take it as a compliment nonetheless.
It is disquieting to have behavior that is unexplained. What's odd is that I can't remember any of the Contacts icons that ever had a "clock." Not even appointment or task icons have a clock. I think the Journal icon does. If you search your Microsoft Office folder for *.ico, does this icon show up? If so, what name does it have? From my memory Contact icons had one of three formats: 1. A Rolodex card was only seen in Outlook 2000 IMO when the WAB shared the Contacts Folder 2. Black and white business cards in Outlook 97-2002 3. Color business cards in Outlook 2003. If you don't have a lot of customized views, you can run Outlook once with the /cleanviews switch and see if that straightens things out. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I've never had to export. I've always installed newer versions of Outlook over older versions. When I bought new computers (twice) I manually entered my few contacts via keyboard. And most of my contacts were created for the first time in Office 2003. See, I used to use Outlook for only a few dozen contacts. Then, with Outlook 2003, I started converting all of customers' business cards to Outlook. That's when my contact list really exploded And that wouldn't explain my current situation. All contacts before a 4/18/05 have one icon, all after 4/18/05 have a different icon, even though I've changed nothing. It also wouldn't explain how all of the prior contacts (some going back 12 years) all have the same icon, or why some contacts created in Outlook 2003 have one icon, while others have a different icon. Know what, Russ? You've been a real patient prince about this whole thing. But bottom line is 'It's not that big of a deal. I'd say you've gone way WAY out of your way to help on this, but let's close out the thread and call it "Unanswerable ... the truth is out there ... somewhere". Thanks for your help on this. You earned your pay. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions, as long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your current installation? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did no importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about importing or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a time using the standard menu options. Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in the left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always use the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook 2003 I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have, when viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that looks like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier versions. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the 'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact icon resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in its lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon execpt those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't understanding each other as to the format of the icon. This is a non-issue. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle in the lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any contact I create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an existing contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same Company) I stil get the old icon. I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year old, but some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing is, everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything after 4/18 does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon? Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance problem. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally created in Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts were created from scratch only in Outlook 2003? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation Date, then I sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created after April 18th 2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact created before 4/18 HAS the little circle thingie. I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ, since this doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier versions of Outlook. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2 different icons. One type is the standard icon that looks like a little business card. The other type is the same little business card, but also has a little circle in the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of resembles a little clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I know of). Most of my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner of the business card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent additions. -- Kevin Carlson |
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One other thought. In place upgrades of Office wreak havoc on Outlook
profiles. Have you done any maintenance on yours? For sure I'd run the Inbox Repair Tool on your PST file and consider creating a new profile from scratch if you didn't do so after your last upgrade. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message ... But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions, as long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your current installation? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did no importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about importing or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a time using the standard menu options. Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in the left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always use the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook 2003 I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have, when viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that looks like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier versions. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the 'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact icon resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in its lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon execpt those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't understanding each other as to the format of the icon. This is a non-issue. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle in the lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any contact I create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an existing contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same Company) I stil get the old icon. I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year old, but some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing is, everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything after 4/18 does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon? Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance problem. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally created in Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts were created from scratch only in Outlook 2003? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation Date, then I sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created after April 18th 2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact created before 4/18 HAS the little circle thingie. I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ, since this doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier versions of Outlook. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2 different icons. One type is the standard icon that looks like a little business card. The other type is the same little business card, but also has a little circle in the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of resembles a little clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I know of). Most of my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner of the business card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent additions. -- Kevin Carlson |
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Thanks again, Russ. I forgot about the old black and white icon. Mine are
all color. The only .ico files are the standard color contact icon w/ nothing in the lower right corner. I also searched some of the .dll files in outlook, same result ... standard color contact icon. I ran the inbox cleanup tool and thanks for telling me about it. It's something I'll keep in a shortcut just in case I need it. I also ran outlook w/ the /cleanview option. Thanks again, Russ. Have a great day. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Well since I get paid nothing, I'll take it as a compliment nonetheless. It is disquieting to have behavior that is unexplained. What's odd is that I can't remember any of the Contacts icons that ever had a "clock." Not even appointment or task icons have a clock. I think the Journal icon does. If you search your Microsoft Office folder for *.ico, does this icon show up? If so, what name does it have? From my memory Contact icons had one of three formats: 1. A Rolodex card was only seen in Outlook 2000 IMO when the WAB shared the Contacts Folder 2. Black and white business cards in Outlook 97-2002 3. Color business cards in Outlook 2003. If you don't have a lot of customized views, you can run Outlook once with the /cleanviews switch and see if that straightens things out. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I've never had to export. I've always installed newer versions of Outlook over older versions. When I bought new computers (twice) I manually entered my few contacts via keyboard. And most of my contacts were created for the first time in Office 2003. See, I used to use Outlook for only a few dozen contacts. Then, with Outlook 2003, I started converting all of customers' business cards to Outlook. That's when my contact list really exploded And that wouldn't explain my current situation. All contacts before a 4/18/05 have one icon, all after 4/18/05 have a different icon, even though I've changed nothing. It also wouldn't explain how all of the prior contacts (some going back 12 years) all have the same icon, or why some contacts created in Outlook 2003 have one icon, while others have a different icon. Know what, Russ? You've been a real patient prince about this whole thing. But bottom line is 'It's not that big of a deal. I'd say you've gone way WAY out of your way to help on this, but let's close out the thread and call it "Unanswerable ... the truth is out there ... somewhere". Thanks for your help on this. You earned your pay. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: But you said that some of your Contacts were created in older versions, as long ago as Outlook 97. If so, how did you migrate these Contacts to your current installation? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... It is not 'very likely' that i imported contacts or anything else. I did no importing or exporting of any Outlook 2003 information of any kind during April or any other month. I wouldn't know how to begin going about importing or exporting, because I have no use for such a function. I create the contacts (and, for that matter, all of my Outlook information) one at a time using the standard menu options. Let me be as clear as I can be. The icons I'm talking about show up in the left most column of my Contacts list. When viewing my contacts, I always use the 'phone list' view (View / Arrange By / Current View / Phone List) and never any other view. Nothting else. When creating Contacts w/ Outlook 2003 I use no special forms of any kind. Contacts created before 4/18 have, when viewed in the 'phone list' view, an icon in the left most column that looks like a rolodex card and also have a little circle logo in the bottom right corner of the icon. Contacts created after 4/18 have an icon in the left most column that look like a rolodex card but with no little circle. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I doubt we are referring to the icons in the same way. Your descriptions are vague. It is unlikely that newly created Contacts are using an old icon. It is very likely that on 4/18 you imported Contacts created in earlier versions. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Hmmm. Indulge me just a bit longer, Russ. I think I understand that the 'old' contact icon resembles a rolodex card. And that the 'new' contact icon resembles a rolodex card, but also has a little 'Outlook' circle icon in its lower right corner. My Outlook 2003 contacts all carry the 'new' icon execpt those crated after 4/18/05, which all carry the 'old' icon. I don't understand why newly created Outlook 2003 contacts carry the old Contact icon. I'm just trying to understand why. Can you explain this to me? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I don't think you have a problem at all. Most likely we aren't understanding each other as to the format of the icon. This is a non-issue. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... Uh Oh. If the 'old' icon is the one without the little Outlook circle in the lower right corner, then I've got a problem. As of right now, any contact I create uses the old icon. Even if I create a new contact from an existing contact that has the new icon, (Actions / New Contact from Same Company) I stil get the old icon. I've tried going into Control Panel and repairing Office, but this didn't fix the problem. Any suggestions? -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: The one that looks more like a Rolodex card is the old one. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... All created in Outlook 2003? Oh gosh no. Most are less than a year old, but some date back to the origninal Outlook (Office 95?). Funny thing is, everything odler than 4/18/05 has the outlook thingie. Everything after 4/18 does not have the outlook thingie. Which one is the 'New' icon? Like I say, not that big of a deal, since there isn't a performance problem. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: I've only seen the older icon in Contacts that were originally created in Outlook 2000 or earlier. Are you certain that all of your Contacts were created from scratch only in Outlook 2003? -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... I just modfied my 'View' in tmy my Contacts to add the Creation Date, then I sorted by the creation date. I see that any contact created after April 18th 2005 does not have the little circle thingie. Any contact created before 4/18 HAS the little circle thingie. I hope you're not putting too high a priority on this, Russ, since this doesn't seem to have any effect in Outlook's performance. -- Kevin Carlson "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote: Most likely you created some of these Contacts in earlier versions of Outlook. -- Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] "Kevin Carlson" wrote in message ... In my contacts folder (Outlook 2003) I have contacts with 2 different icons. One type is the standard icon that looks like a little business card. The other type is the same little business card, but also has a little circle in the lowerright corner of the business card ... kind of resembles a little clock. I don't use any special forms (at least not that I know of). Most of my contacts have the little 'clock' in the lower right corner of the business card. The contacts without the 'clock' are my more recent additions. -- Kevin Carlson |
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I am not sure that I am answering your question, nor that the question
is even fundamentally worth answering. There were three: the ordinary contacts "rolodex" icon, the distribution lists icon, and a rolodex icon with a little circle and a yellow line. I creating an "Icon" view to inspect the icons in detail and sorted by icon to see if I could reason about any common characteristics. The little circle logo that I observed was a clock. The yellow line was a little yellow pencil. A timed pencil. Hmmmm. I then created a table view with just the icon, flag status, follow-up status, and journal, sorted by icon. That revealed that the clock and pencil icon corresponded to the contacts that had Journal turned on (from an experiment I had initiated). If we are talking about the same icon, then your problem is solved. If not, the method I used for inspecting the icon and sorting by interesting (neglected ?) fields might help. I may turn off journalling and get a little performance boost, so it wasn't all wasted. |
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Now that's very interesting. I looked at all of the affected Contacts and
all of the Contacts that had the newer, color Contact icon had journalling turned off. I turned it on, but there is no effect yet. I used your inspection method. I use 'small' icons, so two icon choices I see are the standard color Contact icon and the same icon with a little clock in the lower right corner. Could the clock really be a very small 'Outlook' icon ... a large O with a small L in it ... similar to Outlook 2003's newer task bar icon? In any event, I'm turning journalling off, too. I never use it an it eats up system resources and performance. You know? Arsenio Hall would call this "Something that makes you go Hmmm". -- Kevin Carlson "ProfDD" wrote: I am not sure that I am answering your question, nor that the question is even fundamentally worth answering. There were three: the ordinary contacts "rolodex" icon, the distribution lists icon, and a rolodex icon with a little circle and a yellow line. I creating an "Icon" view to inspect the icons in detail and sorted by icon to see if I could reason about any common characteristics. The little circle logo that I observed was a clock. The yellow line was a little yellow pencil. A timed pencil. Hmmmm. I then created a table view with just the icon, flag status, follow-up status, and journal, sorted by icon. That revealed that the clock and pencil icon corresponded to the contacts that had Journal turned on (from an experiment I had initiated). If we are talking about the same icon, then your problem is solved. If not, the method I used for inspecting the icon and sorting by interesting (neglected ?) fields might help. I may turn off journalling and get a little performance boost, so it wasn't all wasted. |
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AND THAT'S A WRAP. You were right across the plate on the Journal thing.
Here's what happened. I've always kept journalling turned on. But I also look at my contacts list in the 'phone list' view AND I remove many of the unecessary columns (attachment, category, flag status, etc) just to make the page a little cleaner. So I got used to not seeing the journal status of my contacts. Now, one of MVP Russ' suggestion was to run Outlook from the command line with the ' / cleanvew' switch. This puts all of the normal columns back up on the phone list and resets all of the views to factory status. Well, when I look at the 'Journal' column in the refreshed phone list, there is a check box. If I check the check box, the Contact icon changes, adding the circle thingin (clock or Outlook icon, depending on your taste in these things). So, PROBLEM SOLVED and thank you very much, ProfDD. By the way, when you turn journalling off, get ready to take a coffee break. It takes a while. I also use Outlook Live!, so the whole thing takes about ten minutes. -- Kevin Carlson "ProfDD" wrote: I am not sure that I am answering your question, nor that the question is even fundamentally worth answering. There were three: the ordinary contacts "rolodex" icon, the distribution lists icon, and a rolodex icon with a little circle and a yellow line. I creating an "Icon" view to inspect the icons in detail and sorted by icon to see if I could reason about any common characteristics. The little circle logo that I observed was a clock. The yellow line was a little yellow pencil. A timed pencil. Hmmmm. I then created a table view with just the icon, flag status, follow-up status, and journal, sorted by icon. That revealed that the clock and pencil icon corresponded to the contacts that had Journal turned on (from an experiment I had initiated). If we are talking about the same icon, then your problem is solved. If not, the method I used for inspecting the icon and sorting by interesting (neglected ?) fields might help. I may turn off journalling and get a little performance boost, so it wasn't all wasted. |
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