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Old January 25th, 2005, 11:39 PM
Edward Letendre
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Okay, I have a question for the expers in access 97. I have an application
that runs on a older computer. The short cut was created on the desktop and
when a user clicks on the shortcut, the database starts up, and asks for a
password. Then the main switchboard is loaded for the database and the
database is up and running.

My question is as follows. I am used to just starting Access 97 in edit
mode with the ability to access the tables, forms, etc. How do I get the
database to open in edit mode rather than with the swtich board up and
running.

Also this database was orginally developed in access 2.0 and was converted
to access 97 (I am not sure how as I was not around when the orginal database
was developed). But everytime the database is opened, the users get the
error message saying that the database cannot be converted or that it was not
converted correctly. I have tried to open the database in exclusive mode,
but with the way it was opened/converted the first time, it cannot be opened
in exclusive mode.

As a last resort, I was looking at moving the entire application from access
2.0/access 97 into access 2003 and creating a runtime application that can be
shared across the network on all desktops (4 to 5 workstations accessing the
same application and tables, etc.). I would need some info on how to open or
get the data out of access 97 and into access 2003 (table, forms, etc).

The users of the application want to be able to have the database shared out
across the network, as the datbase is located in a network drive but is
available on one machine only.

If I left it in access 97, how hard would it be to get it converted
correctly and have multiple users access the application without any errors
occuring (including any corrupted tables or rows, etc.)?

Finally, the last problem is that there are uses here with many version of
access (access 97 and access 2000, but no versions of access 2003 as of yet).
If I was to go with access 2003 and create a shared runtime executable of
the database, how hard would this be? I have some experience with Oracle
(working on my OCP for 8i) and thus I have some experience with databases.
It is just that I cannot get access to open this database without opening the
switch board and I have the converstion error as it seems that the database
was not correctly converted from access 2.0 to access 97 in the first place.

I guess to complicate matters worse is that there has been alot of data
added to the database as it has been running in access 97 as a badly
converted application.

Help me if you can.

Edward Letendre.

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Old January 26th, 2005, 12:10 AM
Joseph Meehan
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Edward Letendre wrote:
Okay, I have a question for the expers in access 97. I have an
application that runs on a older computer. The short cut was created
on the desktop and when a user clicks on the shortcut, the database
starts up, and asks for a password. Then the main switchboard is
loaded for the database and the database is up and running.

My question is as follows. I am used to just starting Access 97 in
edit mode with the ability to access the tables, forms, etc. How do
I get the database to open in edit mode rather than with the swtich
board up and running.

Also this database was orginally developed in access 2.0 and was
converted to access 97 (I am not sure how as I was not around when
the orginal database was developed). But everytime the database is
opened, the users get the error message saying that the database
cannot be converted or that it was not converted correctly. I have
tried to open the database in exclusive mode, but with the way it was
opened/converted the first time, it cannot be opened in exclusive
mode.

As a last resort, I was looking at moving the entire application from
access
2.0/access 97 into access 2003 and creating a runtime application
that can be shared across the network on all desktops (4 to 5
workstations accessing the same application and tables, etc.). I
would need some info on how to open or get the data out of access 97
and into access 2003 (table, forms, etc).

The users of the application want to be able to have the database
shared out across the network, as the datbase is located in a network
drive but is available on one machine only.

If I left it in access 97, how hard would it be to get it converted
correctly and have multiple users access the application without any
errors occuring (including any corrupted tables or rows, etc.)?

Finally, the last problem is that there are uses here with many
version of access (access 97 and access 2000, but no versions of
access 2003 as of yet). If I was to go with access 2003 and create a
shared runtime executable of the database, how hard would this be? I
have some experience with Oracle (working on my OCP for 8i) and thus
I have some experience with databases. It is just that I cannot get
access to open this database without opening the switch board and I
have the converstion error as it seems that the database was not
correctly converted from access 2.0 to access 97 in the first place.

I guess to complicate matters worse is that there has been alot of
data added to the database as it has been running in access 97 as a
badly converted application.

Help me if you can.

Edward Letendre.


I find it a little hard to follow exactly what your situation is, so
please excuse me if my answer is off target.

Access can ask for several different kinds of passwords. One involves
the workgroup. That may be what you now have. If the database you are
opening is not secured, you likely do not need to long onto the workgroup.
Look at the properties for the shortcut. Make a copy and clip off all the
stuff after *.exe If that works, then it is not secured and you can use
that shortcut. Don't delete the other one unless you are sure you don't
need it for another database.

You can startup the database while holding down the shift key and it
should open without running the startup form (in this case the switchboard)
If you have access you can change or eliminate the start up form in the
tools area there is an option setting.

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


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Old January 26th, 2005, 02:15 AM
MacDermott
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Joseph's answers are good ones; to expand a bit:

In a networked environment, it's best to split your database, and put the
data on the server, with a separate copy of the front end on each desktop.
In your case, this is especially desirable, because you can put an Access 97
version of the front end on the Access 97 machines, and an Access 2000
version on those machines.
Be sure to leave the back end (data) in Access 97; Access 2000 can read
Access 97 tables, but Access 97 cannot read Access 2000 tables.

If you do any editing of the forms, etc in Access 2000, you'll need to save
a copy back to Access 97 format for those users. Some issues may arise if
you use features in Access 2000 which are not available in A97; you can
avoid this by doing your development (editing) in A97.

Do all of your users get the "not converted" message? Or only the Access
2000 users?

HTH
- Turtle

"Edward Letendre" wrote in
message ...
Okay, I have a question for the expers in access 97. I have an

application
that runs on a older computer. The short cut was created on the desktop

and
when a user clicks on the shortcut, the database starts up, and asks for a
password. Then the main switchboard is loaded for the database and the
database is up and running.

My question is as follows. I am used to just starting Access 97 in edit
mode with the ability to access the tables, forms, etc. How do I get the
database to open in edit mode rather than with the swtich board up and
running.

Also this database was orginally developed in access 2.0 and was converted
to access 97 (I am not sure how as I was not around when the orginal

database
was developed). But everytime the database is opened, the users get the
error message saying that the database cannot be converted or that it was

not
converted correctly. I have tried to open the database in exclusive mode,
but with the way it was opened/converted the first time, it cannot be

opened
in exclusive mode.

As a last resort, I was looking at moving the entire application from

access
2.0/access 97 into access 2003 and creating a runtime application that can

be
shared across the network on all desktops (4 to 5 workstations accessing

the
same application and tables, etc.). I would need some info on how to open

or
get the data out of access 97 and into access 2003 (table, forms, etc).

The users of the application want to be able to have the database shared

out
across the network, as the datbase is located in a network drive but is
available on one machine only.

If I left it in access 97, how hard would it be to get it converted
correctly and have multiple users access the application without any

errors
occuring (including any corrupted tables or rows, etc.)?

Finally, the last problem is that there are uses here with many version of
access (access 97 and access 2000, but no versions of access 2003 as of

yet).
If I was to go with access 2003 and create a shared runtime executable of
the database, how hard would this be? I have some experience with Oracle
(working on my OCP for 8i) and thus I have some experience with databases.
It is just that I cannot get access to open this database without opening

the
switch board and I have the converstion error as it seems that the

database
was not correctly converted from access 2.0 to access 97 in the first

place.

I guess to complicate matters worse is that there has been alot of data
added to the database as it has been running in access 97 as a badly
converted application.

Help me if you can.

Edward Letendre.



 




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