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Old January 2nd, 2007, 09:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Debbie
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Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in the middle of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous pages and I need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!
  #2  
Old January 2nd, 2007, 09:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
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Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

Headers and footers are attributes of Sections, not of pages, with the
exception of the First Page header or footer that a Section can have.

You therefore have a couple of choices:

1. Insert Section Breaks before and after the page in question and unlink
the headers and footers in the section in which that page is located from
the headers and footers in the preceding Section and also the ones in the
following Section from the headers and footers in the Section with the page
and then delete the content of the headers and footers in that Section.

2. If the headers and footers just contain simple text, used an
If...then...Else... field construction that checks the page number and
inserts the header and footer text if other than the page number on which
you do not want it to appear.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Debbie" wrote in message
...
I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in the middle of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous pages and I
need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!



  #3  
Old November 14th, 2007, 08:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
marj
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Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?



"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Headers and footers are attributes of Sections, not of pages, with the
exception of the First Page header or footer that a Section can have.

You therefore have a couple of choices:

1. Insert Section Breaks before and after the page in question and unlink
the headers and footers in the section in which that page is located from
the headers and footers in the preceding Section and also the ones in the
following Section from the headers and footers in the Section with the page
and then delete the content of the headers and footers in that Section.

2. If the headers and footers just contain simple text, used an
If...then...Else... field construction that checks the page number and
inserts the header and footer text if other than the page number on which
you do not want it to appear.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Debbie" wrote in message
...
I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in the middle of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous pages and I
need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!




  #4  
Old November 14th, 2007, 08:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
marj
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Posts: 15
Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

This makes no sense. The instructions don't help. Should MS Word just offer
an option on that Menu to check "do not include header on page 1" (because
checking "different first page" does not eliminate the header from the first
page. Then if I delete it from the first page, it disappears from all the
other pages.)








"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Headers and footers are attributes of Sections, not of pages, with the
exception of the First Page header or footer that a Section can have.

You therefore have a couple of choices:

1. Insert Section Breaks before and after the page in question and unlink
the headers and footers in the section in which that page is located from
the headers and footers in the preceding Section and also the ones in the
following Section from the headers and footers in the Section with the page
and then delete the content of the headers and footers in that Section.

2. If the headers and footers just contain simple text, used an
If...then...Else... field construction that checks the page number and
inserts the header and footer text if other than the page number on which
you do not want it to appear.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Debbie" wrote in message
...
I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in the middle of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous pages and I
need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!




  #5  
Old November 14th, 2007, 08:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
marj
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Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

Okay

I switched it from print view (pages) to normal view (streamed) and was able
to insert the header after the section break and click "this point forward")
and it did not appear on the first page.

But MS should really simplify it by adding a button that simply says "DO NOT
PUT HEADER ON PAGE ONE" or click or unclick something like "Header on first
page," just as they do for numbering pages by letting you opt out of adding a
number to page one by just simply clicking or unclicking "show number on
first page."
  #6  
Old November 14th, 2007, 08:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

Checking "Different first page" *does* work because it gives you a separate
First Page Header, which you leave blank, putting the text for the remaining
pages in the primary Header, which starts on page 2.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
This makes no sense. The instructions don't help. Should MS Word just

offer
an option on that Menu to check "do not include header on page 1" (because
checking "different first page" does not eliminate the header from the

first
page. Then if I delete it from the first page, it disappears from all the
other pages.)








"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Headers and footers are attributes of Sections, not of pages, with the
exception of the First Page header or footer that a Section can have.

You therefore have a couple of choices:

1. Insert Section Breaks before and after the page in question and

unlink
the headers and footers in the section in which that page is located

from
the headers and footers in the preceding Section and also the ones in

the
following Section from the headers and footers in the Section with the

page
and then delete the content of the headers and footers in that Section.

2. If the headers and footers just contain simple text, used an
If...then...Else... field construction that checks the page number and
inserts the header and footer text if other than the page number on

which
you do not want it to appear.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Debbie" wrote in message
...
I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in the middle

of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous pages and

I
need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!





  #7  
Old November 14th, 2007, 09:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
marj
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Posts: 15
Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

I am going to give that a test run again, but it did not work the first time.
Right now, it worked when I was in section/normal view and simply clicked
"this page forward" after the page 2 section break.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Checking "Different first page" *does* work because it gives you a separate
First Page Header, which you leave blank, putting the text for the remaining
pages in the primary Header, which starts on page 2.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
This makes no sense. The instructions don't help. Should MS Word just

offer
an option on that Menu to check "do not include header on page 1" (because
checking "different first page" does not eliminate the header from the

first
page. Then if I delete it from the first page, it disappears from all the
other pages.)








"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Headers and footers are attributes of Sections, not of pages, with the
exception of the First Page header or footer that a Section can have.

You therefore have a couple of choices:

1. Insert Section Breaks before and after the page in question and

unlink
the headers and footers in the section in which that page is located

from
the headers and footers in the preceding Section and also the ones in

the
following Section from the headers and footers in the Section with the

page
and then delete the content of the headers and footers in that Section.

2. If the headers and footers just contain simple text, used an
If...then...Else... field construction that checks the page number and
inserts the header and footer text if other than the page number on

which
you do not want it to appear.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Debbie" wrote in message
...
I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in the middle

of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous pages and

I
need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!





  #8  
Old November 14th, 2007, 10:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

Selecting "This page forward" inserts a section break, which introduces
needless complexity.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
I am going to give that a test run again, but it did not work the first

time.
Right now, it worked when I was in section/normal view and simply clicked
"this page forward" after the page 2 section break.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Checking "Different first page" *does* work because it gives you a

separate
First Page Header, which you leave blank, putting the text for the

remaining
pages in the primary Header, which starts on page 2.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
This makes no sense. The instructions don't help. Should MS Word just

offer
an option on that Menu to check "do not include header on page 1"

(because
checking "different first page" does not eliminate the header from the

first
page. Then if I delete it from the first page, it disappears from all

the
other pages.)








"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Headers and footers are attributes of Sections, not of pages, with

the
exception of the First Page header or footer that a Section can

have.

You therefore have a couple of choices:

1. Insert Section Breaks before and after the page in question and

unlink
the headers and footers in the section in which that page is located

from
the headers and footers in the preceding Section and also the ones

in
the
following Section from the headers and footers in the Section with

the
page
and then delete the content of the headers and footers in that

Section.

2. If the headers and footers just contain simple text, used an
If...then...Else... field construction that checks the page number

and
inserts the header and footer text if other than the page number on

which
you do not want it to appear.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of

my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Debbie" wrote in message
...
I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in the

middle
of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous pages

and
I
need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!






  #9  
Old November 15th, 2007, 01:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
marj
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Posts: 15
Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

I must have a different kind of version of Word, because it wasn't complex
once I figured out what it wanted me to do. It worked. However, I did go back
and try the "different first page" thingy in normal view mode and that
(finally) worked also.

I still think the Microsoft people should make it easier, as does
WordPerfect. You simply tell that program 'no header on page one' and it does
just that. Period--don't have to change views (which I prefer to view in
print format-real time-instead of normal), or anything. You simply tell it
what to do and it does it, which is why legal pro's prefer WP.

WPerfect is easier to work with when doing long and complex documents that
have to go to judges and courthouses, mainly because WP was designed to be
heavily used by lawyers. Word is strictly for simple letters and tables, it
doesn't handle legal work or stacked multi-level documents very well at all.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Selecting "This page forward" inserts a section break, which introduces
needless complexity.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
I am going to give that a test run again, but it did not work the first

time.
Right now, it worked when I was in section/normal view and simply clicked
"this page forward" after the page 2 section break.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Checking "Different first page" *does* work because it gives you a

separate
First Page Header, which you leave blank, putting the text for the

remaining
pages in the primary Header, which starts on page 2.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
This makes no sense. The instructions don't help. Should MS Word just
offer
an option on that Menu to check "do not include header on page 1"

(because
checking "different first page" does not eliminate the header from the
first
page. Then if I delete it from the first page, it disappears from all

the
other pages.)








"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Headers and footers are attributes of Sections, not of pages, with

the
exception of the First Page header or footer that a Section can

have.

You therefore have a couple of choices:

1. Insert Section Breaks before and after the page in question and
unlink
the headers and footers in the section in which that page is located
from
the headers and footers in the preceding Section and also the ones

in
the
following Section from the headers and footers in the Section with

the
page
and then delete the content of the headers and footers in that

Section.

2. If the headers and footers just contain simple text, used an
If...then...Else... field construction that checks the page number

and
inserts the header and footer text if other than the page number on
which
you do not want it to appear.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of

my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Debbie" wrote in message
...
I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in the

middle
of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous pages

and
I
need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!







  #10  
Old November 15th, 2007, 02:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Delete the header and footer from just one page in document?

By "needless complexity" I didn't mean that it would be difficult for you to
do. I meant that it makes the document needlessly complex. Every time you
insert a section break, you give Word (and yourself) more to keep up with.
Moreover, if you have anything on that page that needs to flow to the next
page, or if that page grows, then you'll find that your section has become
two pages and that the text doesn't just flow to your original page 2.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
I must have a different kind of version of Word, because it wasn't complex
once I figured out what it wanted me to do. It worked. However, I did go

back
and try the "different first page" thingy in normal view mode and that
(finally) worked also.

I still think the Microsoft people should make it easier, as does
WordPerfect. You simply tell that program 'no header on page one' and it

does
just that. Period--don't have to change views (which I prefer to view in
print format-real time-instead of normal), or anything. You simply tell it
what to do and it does it, which is why legal pro's prefer WP.

WPerfect is easier to work with when doing long and complex documents that
have to go to judges and courthouses, mainly because WP was designed to be
heavily used by lawyers. Word is strictly for simple letters and tables,

it
doesn't handle legal work or stacked multi-level documents very well at

all.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Selecting "This page forward" inserts a section break, which introduces
needless complexity.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
I am going to give that a test run again, but it did not work the

first
time.
Right now, it worked when I was in section/normal view and simply

clicked
"this page forward" after the page 2 section break.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Checking "Different first page" *does* work because it gives you a

separate
First Page Header, which you leave blank, putting the text for the

remaining
pages in the primary Header, which starts on page 2.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"marj" wrote in message
...
This makes no sense. The instructions don't help. Should MS Word

just
offer
an option on that Menu to check "do not include header on page 1"

(because
checking "different first page" does not eliminate the header from

the
first
page. Then if I delete it from the first page, it disappears from

all
the
other pages.)








"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

Headers and footers are attributes of Sections, not of pages,

with
the
exception of the First Page header or footer that a Section can

have.

You therefore have a couple of choices:

1. Insert Section Breaks before and after the page in question

and
unlink
the headers and footers in the section in which that page is

located
from
the headers and footers in the preceding Section and also the

ones
in
the
following Section from the headers and footers in the Section

with
the
page
and then delete the content of the headers and footers in that

Section.

2. If the headers and footers just contain simple text, used

an
If...then...Else... field construction that checks the page

number
and
inserts the header and footer text if other than the page number

on
which
you do not want it to appear.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself

of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Debbie" wrote in message
...
I need to Delete the header and footer from just one page in

the
middle
of
the document. The header and footer are linked to previous

pages
and
I
need
to know how to unlink them from the previous page also.

Thanks!








 




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