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  #1  
Old July 30th, 2007, 12:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
mossrose
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Default changing .dot back to .doc

Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my Word documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this back. How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as .dot, if
any?
  #2  
Old July 30th, 2007, 01:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Herb Tyson [MVP]
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Default changing .dot back to .doc

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word 2003 (or
something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and set Save Word files
as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's currently set to Document
Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options - Save tab,
and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired non-.dot format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my Word
documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this back.
How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as .dot,
if
any?


  #3  
Old July 30th, 2007, 03:04 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
mossrose
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Posts: 3
Default changing .dot back to .doc

Herb, thanks very much. Got it changed back for the future. Just a question
(I'm obviously a bit technically-challenged here!)...if I use a template
(either a Word one or one I've generated myself) for a document, will it
automatically save that document as a .dot, or only if I change that setting
you just told me how to change? Is there any problem with having documents
as *.dot* ones when I'm sharing with other people? I'm just used to the
*.doc* format. Thanks again for your help! mossrose

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word 2003 (or
something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and set Save Word files
as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's currently set to Document
Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options - Save tab,
and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired non-.dot format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my Word
documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this back.
How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as .dot,
if
any?


  #4  
Old July 30th, 2007, 03:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Herb Tyson [MVP]
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Default changing .dot back to .doc

In Word 2003 (which I assuming you're using), you can create a new document
using a .doc, .dot, or .wiz file (the latter being just a convention for a
..dot that contains automation via automacros to facilitate document
creation). In any of these, the resulting document will be a .doc file
unless you've changed the default Save as option.

As a general rule, it's much better to use .doc than .dot for document
names. Among other reasons, it will be less confusing for those with whom
you are sharing documents. Also... if you double-click a .doc file in
Windows Explorer, it will open that file for editing. If you double-click a
..dot file, Word instead uses the .dot file to create a new document based on
the .dot file. Unless that's really what you want to do, using .doc as the
extension will serve you better.

Cheers,

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Herb, thanks very much. Got it changed back for the future. Just a
question
(I'm obviously a bit technically-challenged here!)...if I use a template
(either a Word one or one I've generated myself) for a document, will it
automatically save that document as a .dot, or only if I change that
setting
you just told me how to change? Is there any problem with having
documents
as *.dot* ones when I'm sharing with other people? I'm just used to the
*.doc* format. Thanks again for your help! mossrose

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word 2003 (or
something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and set Save Word
files
as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's currently set to Document
Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options - Save tab,
and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired non-.dot format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my Word
documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this back.
How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as
.dot,
if
any?



  #5  
Old July 30th, 2007, 06:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Graham Mayor
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Default changing .dot back to .doc

If you create a document (DOC) from a template (DOT), then if you have set
up the save option as Herb indicated, the resulting file will be a document
not a template. You don't *open* templates to create documents you create
*new* documents from templates. It is impossible to save a template as a
document. It will always be a template.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


mossrose wrote:
Herb, thanks very much. Got it changed back for the future. Just a
question (I'm obviously a bit technically-challenged here!)...if I
use a template (either a Word one or one I've generated myself) for a
document, will it automatically save that document as a .dot, or only
if I change that setting you just told me how to change? Is there
any problem with having documents as *.dot* ones when I'm sharing
with other people? I'm just used to the *.doc* format. Thanks again
for your help! mossrose

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word 2003
(or something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and set Save
Word files as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's currently
set to Document Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options - Save
tab, and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired non-.dot
format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my Word
documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this
back. How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as
.dot, if
any?



  #6  
Old July 30th, 2007, 02:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default changing .dot back to .doc

It is impossible to save a template as a
document. It will always be a template.


This used to be true, and I thought it made sense, but apparently so many
people got in trouble that in Word 2003 I believe you *can* save a template
as a document. sigh

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
If you create a document (DOC) from a template (DOT), then if you have set
up the save option as Herb indicated, the resulting file will be a

document
not a template. You don't *open* templates to create documents you create
*new* documents from templates. It is impossible to save a template as a
document. It will always be a template.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


mossrose wrote:
Herb, thanks very much. Got it changed back for the future. Just a
question (I'm obviously a bit technically-challenged here!)...if I
use a template (either a Word one or one I've generated myself) for a
document, will it automatically save that document as a .dot, or only
if I change that setting you just told me how to change? Is there
any problem with having documents as *.dot* ones when I'm sharing
with other people? I'm just used to the *.doc* format. Thanks again
for your help! mossrose

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word 2003
(or something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and set Save
Word files as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's currently
set to Document Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options - Save
tab, and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired non-.dot
format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my Word
documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this
back. How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as
.dot, if
any?




  #7  
Old July 30th, 2007, 03:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Graham Mayor
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Default changing .dot back to .doc

So you can! When did they sneak that change in?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
It is impossible to save a template as a
document. It will always be a template.


This used to be true, and I thought it made sense, but apparently so
many people got in trouble that in Word 2003 I believe you *can* save
a template as a document. sigh


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
If you create a document (DOC) from a template (DOT), then if you
have set up the save option as Herb indicated, the resulting file
will be a document not a template. You don't *open* templates to
create documents you create *new* documents from templates. It is
impossible to save a template as a document. It will always be a
template.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


mossrose wrote:
Herb, thanks very much. Got it changed back for the future. Just a
question (I'm obviously a bit technically-challenged here!)...if I
use a template (either a Word one or one I've generated myself) for
a document, will it automatically save that document as a .dot, or
only if I change that setting you just told me how to change? Is
there any problem with having documents as *.dot* ones when I'm
sharing with other people? I'm just used to the *.doc* format.
Thanks again for your help! mossrose

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word
2003 (or something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and
set Save Word files as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's
currently set to Document Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options -
Save tab, and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired
non-.dot format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my
Word documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this
back. How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as
.dot, if
any?



  #8  
Old July 30th, 2007, 05:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
mossrose
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Posts: 3
Default changing .dot back to .doc

Thanks to each of you. If I'm understanding what Herb and Graham are saying,
then it's impossible to change the documents with the .dot extension to .doc
ones unless I copy and paste the material into a new document and save it as
a .doc?
And..if I use a template to create a new document, then it will
automatically save that as a .dot?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

In Word 2003 (which I assuming you're using), you can create a new document
using a .doc, .dot, or .wiz file (the latter being just a convention for a
.dot that contains automation via automacros to facilitate document
creation). In any of these, the resulting document will be a .doc file
unless you've changed the default Save as option.

As a general rule, it's much better to use .doc than .dot for document
names. Among other reasons, it will be less confusing for those with whom
you are sharing documents. Also... if you double-click a .doc file in
Windows Explorer, it will open that file for editing. If you double-click a
.dot file, Word instead uses the .dot file to create a new document based on
the .dot file. Unless that's really what you want to do, using .doc as the
extension will serve you better.

Cheers,

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Herb, thanks very much. Got it changed back for the future. Just a
question
(I'm obviously a bit technically-challenged here!)...if I use a template
(either a Word one or one I've generated myself) for a document, will it
automatically save that document as a .dot, or only if I change that
setting
you just told me how to change? Is there any problem with having
documents
as *.dot* ones when I'm sharing with other people? I'm just used to the
*.doc* format. Thanks again for your help! mossrose

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word 2003 (or
something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and set Save Word
files
as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's currently set to Document
Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options - Save tab,
and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired non-.dot format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my Word
documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this back.
How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as
.dot,
if
any?


  #9  
Old July 30th, 2007, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Posts: 31,786
Default changing .dot back to .doc

I *think* it was new in Word 2003, but possibly 2002. One of the big changes
came in Word 97, when it became possible to store macros in documents (and
perhaps before that it also wasn't possible to store toolbars and keyboard
shortcuts in docs, either?). When it got to the point that you could store
just about anything in a document that you can store in a template (AutoText
is a notable exception), then I guess the distinction began to gray.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
So you can! When did they sneak that change in?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
It is impossible to save a template as a
document. It will always be a template.


This used to be true, and I thought it made sense, but apparently so
many people got in trouble that in Word 2003 I believe you *can* save
a template as a document. sigh


"Graham Mayor" wrote in message
...
If you create a document (DOC) from a template (DOT), then if you
have set up the save option as Herb indicated, the resulting file
will be a document not a template. You don't *open* templates to
create documents you create *new* documents from templates. It is
impossible to save a template as a document. It will always be a
template.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


mossrose wrote:
Herb, thanks very much. Got it changed back for the future. Just a
question (I'm obviously a bit technically-challenged here!)...if I
use a template (either a Word one or one I've generated myself) for
a document, will it automatically save that document as a .dot, or
only if I change that setting you just told me how to change? Is
there any problem with having documents as *.dot* ones when I'm
sharing with other people? I'm just used to the *.doc* format.
Thanks again for your help! mossrose

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word
2003 (or something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and
set Save Word files as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's
currently set to Document Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options -
Save tab, and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired
non-.dot format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my
Word documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this
back. How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as
.dot, if
any?




  #10  
Old July 30th, 2007, 10:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Herb Tyson [MVP]
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Default changing .dot back to .doc

No. Once opened, any file can be saved as .doc or .dot. Just choose File -
Save as, and set the type as desired.

If you open a .dot file from Word (using File - Open), then you're opening
that .dot file for editing, and unless you explicitly choose File - Save As
and save it as a .doc file or something else, then you'll be saving changes
to the .dot file you're editing.

If, however, you choose File - New and choose a .dot file upon which to base
a new document, then the file will be saved as specified in the default save
format (in Tools - Options - Save). You can, of course, explicitly use
File - Save As to save in a format different from the default.

If you open a .dot file by double-clicking it (using Windows Explorer), then
a new Document # window will be opened based on the .dot file. This is
equivalent to choosing File - New and specifying that .dot file as the basis
for creating a new document. Again, the default save format is governed by
the Tools - Options - Save setting. But, as before, you can use File - Save
as to override the default.

..dot files are designed for creating new documents. You can edit .dot files,
but it's harder to do, simply because double-clicking using Windows Explorer
defaults to creating a new document, rather than to editing the .dot file
itself.

It's all-round less confusing if you save document files as .doc, and save
templates as .dot. That way, other users' expectations will be not be upset.

I hope this clarifies...

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
news
Thanks to each of you. If I'm understanding what Herb and Graham are
saying,
then it's impossible to change the documents with the .dot extension to
.doc
ones unless I copy and paste the material into a new document and save it
as
a .doc?
And..if I use a template to create a new document, then it will
automatically save that as a .dot?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

In Word 2003 (which I assuming you're using), you can create a new
document
using a .doc, .dot, or .wiz file (the latter being just a convention for
a
.dot that contains automation via automacros to facilitate document
creation). In any of these, the resulting document will be a .doc file
unless you've changed the default Save as option.

As a general rule, it's much better to use .doc than .dot for document
names. Among other reasons, it will be less confusing for those with whom
you are sharing documents. Also... if you double-click a .doc file in
Windows Explorer, it will open that file for editing. If you double-click
a
.dot file, Word instead uses the .dot file to create a new document based
on
the .dot file. Unless that's really what you want to do, using .doc as
the
extension will serve you better.

Cheers,

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Herb, thanks very much. Got it changed back for the future. Just a
question
(I'm obviously a bit technically-challenged here!)...if I use a
template
(either a Word one or one I've generated myself) for a document, will
it
automatically save that document as a .dot, or only if I change that
setting
you just told me how to change? Is there any problem with having
documents
as *.dot* ones when I'm sharing with other people? I'm just used to
the
*.doc* format. Thanks again for your help! mossrose

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

You don't say which version of Word you're using. Assuming Word 2003
(or
something similar), choose Tools - Options - Save, and set Save Word
files
as: to Word Document (*.doc). I suspect it's currently set to Document
Template (*.dot).

If you're using Word 2007, click Office button - Word Options - Save
tab,
and set "Save files in this format:" to the desired non-.dot format.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"mossrose" wrote in message
...
Somehow I changed the normal template (I guess) so that all my Word
documents
are being saved as .dot instead of .doc. I'd like to change this
back.
How
do I do this and what effect will it have on my documents saved as
.dot,
if
any?



 




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