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Keys for use in brainstorming?
I'm very use to creating mindmaps using XMind Pro and Freemind, and would
like to give Visio 2007 Pro a try since it appears that the brainstorming template is relatively decent. My biggest hang-up with it so far is the apparent lack of keyboard shortcuts for creating sub-topics, peers, etc. For example, in XMind I can quickly add peers simply by pressing Enter, and create a sub-topic by pressing Tab. It all flows very smoothly and easily. In Visio, I'm finding it very inefficient to constantly jump back and forth between the keyboard and mouse to click icons or choose menu items just to add items. Yes, I'm aware of the "add multiple sub-topics" option, but that's a very poor alternative. Does anyone know of any shortcut keys to use for this template? |
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Keys for use in brainstorming?
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:56:02 -0700, Kevin
wrote: I'm very use to creating mindmaps using XMind Pro and Freemind, and would like to give Visio 2007 Pro a try since it appears that the brainstorming template is relatively decent. My biggest hang-up with it so far is the apparent lack of keyboard shortcuts for creating sub-topics, peers, etc. For example, in XMind I can quickly add peers simply by pressing Enter, and create a sub-topic by pressing Tab. It all flows very smoothly and easily. In Visio, I'm finding it very inefficient to constantly jump back and forth between the keyboard and mouse to click icons or choose menu items just to add items. Yes, I'm aware of the "add multiple sub-topics" option, but that's a very poor alternative. Does anyone know of any shortcut keys to use for this template? Look at recording a macro. menu Tools - Macros - Record New Macro You will be asked for a Control-letter key. Some letters won't work as they are used for other purposes i.e. Control-A won't work as that does select-all. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/ SDL/MSC//URN/UML2 for Visio |
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Keys for use in brainstorming?
On Sep 11, 7:15*pm, Paul Herber
wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:56:02 -0700, Kevin wrote: I'm very use to creating mindmaps using XMind Pro and Freemind, and would like to give Visio 2007 Pro a try since it appears that the brainstorming template is relatively decent. My biggest hang-up with it so far is the apparent lack of keyboard shortcuts for creating sub-topics, peers, etc. For example, in XMind I can quickly add peers simply by pressing Enter, and create a sub-topic by pressing Tab. It all flows very smoothly and easily. In Visio, I'm finding it very inefficient to constantly jump back and forth between the keyboard and mouse to click icons or choose menu items just to add items. Yes, I'm aware of the "add multiple sub-topics" option, but that's a very poor alternative. Does anyone know of any shortcut keys to use for this template? Look at recording a macro. menu Tools - Macros - Record New Macro You will be asked for a Control-letter key. Some letters won't work as they are used for other purposes i.e. Control-A won't work as that does select-all. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/* * * SDL/MSC//URN/UML2 for Visio Without knowing what the end-state objectives of your visualization exercises are, there are a couple of free visualization tools that may work better than Visio: Genie: http://genie.sis.pitt.edu/ Genie is a Bayesian Network analytical tool developed by guys at Pitt. Does influence diagrams too. You can do page transclusions using a submodel node. Sharp tool. You can skip just use it for diagramming and skip the analytics. However, you cannot create linked cycles. (Bayesian no-no.) The program is Compendium: http://compendium.open.ac.uk/institute/ Compendium is an explicit dialog mapping tool funded by Verizon. It was designed around a construct called IBIS. But you can adapt it any way you wish. Transclusions are explicit using map nodes. Compendium has a very rich tag system. And you can create your own icon classes. Here's a link to bunch of other mind mapping tools. Many web based an free: http://mashable.com/2007/11/03/mindmapping/ What bugs me about the Buzan school of mind mapping are the end product plates of visual spaghetti. I'm still trying to figure out how those things generate inferential value beyond the feel good group session. But maybe it's just me. Good Luck SteveM |
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Thank you both very much. These were very helpful!
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Kevin: You could try FreeMind - it's not only free, but has keyboard
shortcuts. SteveM: On the value of Buzan mindmaps, don't you feel the value in most mind maps is the value of the process, not the value of the end product? An exception might be when mind maps are used to initiate and meeting and then used to record descisions of the meeting. Then everyone needs to find the final result comprehensible. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software wrote: On Sep 11, 7:15�pm, Paul Herber wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:56:02 -0700, Kevin wrote: I'm very use to creating mindmaps using XMind Pro and Freemind, and would like to give Visio 2007 Pro a try since it appears that the brainstorming template is relatively decent. My biggest hang-up with it so far is the apparent lack of keyboard shortcuts for creating sub-topics, peers, etc. For example, in XMind I can quickly add peers simply by pressing Enter, and create a sub-topic by pressing Tab. It all flows very smoothly and easily. In Visio, I'm finding it very inefficient to constantly jump back and forth between the keyboard and mouse to click icons or choose menu items just to add items. Yes, I'm aware of the "add multiple sub-topics" option, but that's a very poor alternative. Does anyone know of any shortcut keys to use for this template? Look at recording a macro. menu Tools - Macros - Record New Macro You will be asked for a Control-letter key. Some letters won't work as they are used for other purposes i.e. Control-A won't work as that does select-all. -- Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd.http://www.sdl.sandrila.co.uk/� � � SDL/MSC//URN/UML2 for Visio Without knowing what the end-state objectives of your visualization exercises are, there are a couple of free visualization tools that may work better than Visio: Genie: http://genie.sis.pitt.edu/ Genie is a Bayesian Network analytical tool developed by guys at Pitt. Does influence diagrams too. You can do page transclusions using a submodel node. Sharp tool. You can skip just use it for diagramming and skip the analytics. However, you cannot create linked cycles. (Bayesian no-no.) The program is Compendium: http://compendium.open.ac.uk/institute/ Compendium is an explicit dialog mapping tool funded by Verizon. It was designed around a construct called IBIS. But you can adapt it any way you wish. Transclusions are explicit using map nodes. Compendium has a very rich tag system. And you can create your own icon classes. Here's a link to bunch of other mind mapping tools. Many web based an free: http://mashable.com/2007/11/03/mindmapping/ What bugs me about the Buzan school of mind mapping are the end product plates of visual spaghetti. I'm still trying to figure out how those things generate inferential value beyond the feel good group session. But maybe it's just me. Good Luck SteveM |
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Keys for use in brainstorming?
If you are going to solicit customers in the newsgroups, please make your
self interest known. John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... Kevin: You could try FreeMind - it's not only free, but has keyboard shortcuts. SteveM: On the value of Buzan mindmaps, don't you feel the value in most mind maps is the value of the process, not the value of the end product? An exception might be when mind maps are used to initiate and meeting and then used to record descisions of the meeting. Then everyone needs to find the final result comprehensible. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software |
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Keys for use in brainstorming?
John,
If you're referring to me, what do you mean by "customers"? If you can find any way to buy anything at my site, do please let me know, I'd be interested to find where the income I'm not getting is going! Nothing on sale, and no affiliate links or ads there mate! And I have no links to FreeMind, other than as an occasional user, nor to Buzan, other than as a reader of one of his books years ago. please make your self interest known I did: In my sig. Nope, all way off target. If people seek information I do my best to make a contribution of knowledge. You're on a public Google Group here and I was joining a conversation on a subject I find interesting. Sorry that doesn't fit your expectations. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software I hereby declare that my "self-interest" is to extend the use of mind mapping by helping people, joining in discussions on the topic, and providing information that allows them to choose information mapping tools freely from the 296 listed on my site. (OK, John?) John... Visio MVP wrote: If you are going to solicit customers in the newsgroups, please make your self interest known. John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... Kevin: You could try FreeMind - it's not only free, but has keyboard shortcuts. SteveM: On the value of Buzan mindmaps, don't you feel the value in most mind maps is the value of the process, not the value of the end product? An exception might be when mind maps are used to initiate and meeting and then used to record descisions of the meeting. Then everyone needs to find the final result comprehensible. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software |
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Keys for use in brainstorming?
Sorry about that, it had been a long day and at 6:30am I made the stupid
assumption that FreeMind was available from http://www.mind-mapping.org and then linked that back to you posting address. I can now see that you were making a totally unbiased suggestion. I'm sorry. John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... John, If you're referring to me, what do you mean by "customers"? If you can find any way to buy anything at my site, do please let me know, I'd be interested to find where the income I'm not getting is going! Nothing on sale, and no affiliate links or ads there mate! And I have no links to FreeMind, other than as an occasional user, nor to Buzan, other than as a reader of one of his books years ago. please make your self interest known I did: In my sig. Nope, all way off target. If people seek information I do my best to make a contribution of knowledge. You're on a public Google Group here and I was joining a conversation on a subject I find interesting. Sorry that doesn't fit your expectations. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software I hereby declare that my "self-interest" is to extend the use of mind mapping by helping people, joining in discussions on the topic, and providing information that allows them to choose information mapping tools freely from the 296 listed on my site. (OK, John?) John... Visio MVP wrote: If you are going to solicit customers in the newsgroups, please make your self interest known. John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... Kevin: You could try FreeMind - it's not only free, but has keyboard shortcuts. SteveM: On the value of Buzan mindmaps, don't you feel the value in most mind maps is the value of the process, not the value of the end product? An exception might be when mind maps are used to initiate and meeting and then used to record descisions of the meeting. Then everyone needs to find the final result comprehensible. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software |
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Keys for use in brainstorming?
Gracious apology accepted. Sorry if I came over a bit on the strong
side as well. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software John... Visio MVP wrote: Sorry about that, it had been a long day and at 6:30am I made the stupid assumption that FreeMind was available from http://www.mind-mapping.org and then linked that back to you posting address. I can now see that you were making a totally unbiased suggestion. I'm sorry. John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... John, If you're referring to me, what do you mean by "customers"? If you can find any way to buy anything at my site, do please let me know, I'd be interested to find where the income I'm not getting is going! Nothing on sale, and no affiliate links or ads there mate! And I have no links to FreeMind, other than as an occasional user, nor to Buzan, other than as a reader of one of his books years ago. please make your self interest known I did: In my sig. Nope, all way off target. If people seek information I do my best to make a contribution of knowledge. You're on a public Google Group here and I was joining a conversation on a subject I find interesting. Sorry that doesn't fit your expectations. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software I hereby declare that my "self-interest" is to extend the use of mind mapping by helping people, joining in discussions on the topic, and providing information that allows them to choose information mapping tools freely from the 296 listed on my site. (OK, John?) John... Visio MVP wrote: If you are going to solicit customers in the newsgroups, please make your self interest known. John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... Kevin: You could try FreeMind - it's not only free, but has keyboard shortcuts. SteveM: On the value of Buzan mindmaps, don't you feel the value in most mind maps is the value of the process, not the value of the end product? An exception might be when mind maps are used to initiate and meeting and then used to record descisions of the meeting. Then everyone needs to find the final result comprehensible. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software |
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Keys for use in brainstorming?
You had every right to complain.
John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... Gracious apology accepted. Sorry if I came over a bit on the strong side as well. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software John... Visio MVP wrote: Sorry about that, it had been a long day and at 6:30am I made the stupid assumption that FreeMind was available from http://www.mind-mapping.org and then linked that back to you posting address. I can now see that you were making a totally unbiased suggestion. I'm sorry. John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... John, If you're referring to me, what do you mean by "customers"? If you can find any way to buy anything at my site, do please let me know, I'd be interested to find where the income I'm not getting is going! Nothing on sale, and no affiliate links or ads there mate! And I have no links to FreeMind, other than as an occasional user, nor to Buzan, other than as a reader of one of his books years ago. please make your self interest known I did: In my sig. Nope, all way off target. If people seek information I do my best to make a contribution of knowledge. You're on a public Google Group here and I was joining a conversation on a subject I find interesting. Sorry that doesn't fit your expectations. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software I hereby declare that my "self-interest" is to extend the use of mind mapping by helping people, joining in discussions on the topic, and providing information that allows them to choose information mapping tools freely from the 296 listed on my site. (OK, John?) John... Visio MVP wrote: If you are going to solicit customers in the newsgroups, please make your self interest known. John... Visio MVP "VicGee" wrote in message ... Kevin: You could try FreeMind - it's not only free, but has keyboard shortcuts. SteveM: On the value of Buzan mindmaps, don't you feel the value in most mind maps is the value of the process, not the value of the end product? An exception might be when mind maps are used to initiate and meeting and then used to record descisions of the meeting. Then everyone needs to find the final result comprehensible. Vic http://www.mind-mapping.org The master list of mind mapping & information management software |
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