Word 2003 - different pagination on different documents

I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message
...
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two possibilities to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot file.
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword
wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in these docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word 2003. I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at the end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document but stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were created from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both are based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3 pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my machine they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc lets me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the time. If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc it is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph, thus making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine would cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver). But I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that effects the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently than my
3
page doc? Am I missing a setting somewhere?

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Thanks Susanne. I’ll send them along via email.

I’ve played around with the user’s Normal.dot some more and found
there is something in it that is causing the difference. Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. It’s something in that Normal.

Aaron


On Sep 19, 1:36*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

....
Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two possibilities to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

....
I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot file.
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword
wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in these docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word 2003. I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at the end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document but stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were created from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both are based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3 pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my machine they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc lets me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the time. If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc it is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph, thus making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine would cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver). But I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that effects the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently than my
3
page doc? Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Aaron- Hide quoted text -

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I took a look at your docs and couldn't pin anything down, either. I was
about to send them along to someone at MS to take a look at, when I read
this post, which caused me to look at the definition of Normal style in the
problem doc. Note that it includes references to "Asian" and "Chinese
(PRC)"; I'd be willing to bet that's the issue. What's more difficult is
figuring out how to eradicate that formatting. I suspect you can't do it
without installing the Asian languages so that you get an extra tab on the
Font dialog. Even so, it may be necessary to rename the user's Normal.dot
and let Word generate a fresh copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message
...
Thanks Susanne. I’ll send them along via email.

I’ve played around with the user’s Normal.dot some more and found
there is something in it that is causing the difference. Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. It’s something in that Normal.

Aaron


On Sep 19, 1:36 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the
sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two possibilities to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right
indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot file.
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword
wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in these
docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word 2003. I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at the end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document but
stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were created
from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both are
based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3 pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my machine
they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc lets me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the time. If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc it is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph, thus
making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine would
cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver). But I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that effects
the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently than
my
3
page doc? Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Aaron- Hide quoted text -

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I've already had the user delete her Normal and have Word recreate
it. We get the same outcome. I also noticed the (Asian) Chinese
(PRC) font reference in the problem doc after I email them and was
trying to figure out how to remove it. But after I closed down Word
and open the docs again, now I can see the Asian font reference in
both good and bad docs. Very strange. I feel like I'm entering the
Word Flackyness zone. (A place I've spent ALOT of time in over the
past few years.)

If you look at File/Properties/Summary in the problem doc you can see
the original user's name see she's got Asian characters in the
'Company' field. The good doc does not have that. Maybe the user has
some additional Asian language add-ons loaded into Word? I'm going to
check on that.

Aaron


On Sep 19, 3:34*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I took a look at your docs and couldn't pin anything down, either. I was
about to send them along to someone at MS to take a look at, when I read
this post, which caused me to look at the definition of Normal style in the
problem doc. Note that it includes references to "Asian" and "Chinese
(PRC)"; I'd be willing to bet that's the issue. What's more difficult is
figuring out how to eradicate that formatting. I suspect you can't do it
without installing the Asian languages so that you get an extra tab on the
Font dialog. Even so, it may be necessary to rename the user's Normal.dot
and let Word generate a fresh copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne. *I’ll send them along via email.

I’ve played around with the user’s Normal.dot some more and found
there is something in it that is causing the difference. *Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. *It’s something in that Normal.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 1:36 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the
sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

....
Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two possibilities to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right
indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

....
I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot file..
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword
wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in these
docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word 2003. I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at the end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document but
stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were created
from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both are
based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3 pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my machine
they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc lets me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the time. If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc it is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph, thus
making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine would
cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver). But I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that effects
the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently than
my
3
page doc? Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Aaron- Hide quoted text -

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OK, what I was doing earlier today....

"Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. It’s something in that Normal."

.... no longer works. Point the problem doc to my good normal no
longer fixes the problem. This is full on Word Flackiness zone!

Aaron



On Sep 19, 4:00*pm, wrote:
I've already had the user delete her Normal and have Word recreate
it. *We get the same outcome. *I also noticed the (Asian) Chinese
(PRC) font reference in the problem doc after I email them and was
trying to figure out how to remove it. *But after I closed down Word
and open the docs again, now I can see the Asian font reference in
both good and bad docs. *Very strange. *I feel like I'm entering the
Word Flackyness zone. *(A place I've spent ALOT of time in over the
past few years.)

If you look at File/Properties/Summary in the problem doc you can see
the original user's name see she's got Asian characters in the
'Company' field. *The good doc does not have that. *Maybe the user has
some additional Asian language add-ons loaded into Word? *I'm going to
check on that.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 3:34*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I took a look at your docs and couldn't pin anything down, either. I was
about to send them along to someone at MS to take a look at, when I read
this post, which caused me to look at the definition of Normal style in the
problem doc. Note that it includes references to "Asian" and "Chinese
(PRC)"; I'd be willing to bet that's the issue. What's more difficult is
figuring out how to eradicate that formatting. I suspect you can't do it
without installing the Asian languages so that you get an extra tab on the
Font dialog. Even so, it may be necessary to rename the user's Normal.dot
and let Word generate a fresh copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne. *I’ll send them along via email.

I’ve played around with the user’s Normal.dot some more and found
there is something in it that is causing the difference. *Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. *It’s something in that Normal.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 1:36 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the
sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

....
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two possibilities to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right
indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot file.
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword
wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in these
docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word 2003.. I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at the end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document but
stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were created
from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both are
based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3 pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my machine
they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc lets me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the time. If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc it is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph, thus
making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine would
cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver). But I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that effects
the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently than
my
3
page doc? Am I missing a setting somewhere?

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OK, more info. Pointing the problem doc to my clean Normal worked
this morning, but not this afternoon. But, pointing to an old Normal
I had saved from a few weeks ago did revert the text back to the good
formatting. Is this "setting" able to spread into other Normals/
templates?

Aaron


On Sep 19, 4:00*pm, wrote:
I've already had the user delete her Normal and have Word recreate
it. *We get the same outcome. *I also noticed the (Asian) Chinese
(PRC) font reference in the problem doc after I email them and was
trying to figure out how to remove it. *But after I closed down Word
and open the docs again, now I can see the Asian font reference in
both good and bad docs. *Very strange. *I feel like I'm entering the
Word Flackyness zone. *(A place I've spent ALOT of time in over the
past few years.)

If you look at File/Properties/Summary in the problem doc you can see
the original user's name see she's got Asian characters in the
'Company' field. *The good doc does not have that. *Maybe the user has
some additional Asian language add-ons loaded into Word? *I'm going to
check on that.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 3:34*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I took a look at your docs and couldn't pin anything down, either. I was
about to send them along to someone at MS to take a look at, when I read
this post, which caused me to look at the definition of Normal style in the
problem doc. Note that it includes references to "Asian" and "Chinese
(PRC)"; I'd be willing to bet that's the issue. What's more difficult is
figuring out how to eradicate that formatting. I suspect you can't do it
without installing the Asian languages so that you get an extra tab on the
Font dialog. Even so, it may be necessary to rename the user's Normal.dot
and let Word generate a fresh copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne. *I’ll send them along via email.

I’ve played around with the user’s Normal.dot some more and found
there is something in it that is causing the difference. *Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. *It’s something in that Normal.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 1:36 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the
sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

....
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two possibilities to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right
indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot file.
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword
wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in these
docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word 2003.. I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at the end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document but
stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were created
from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both are
based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3 pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my machine
they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc lets me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the time. If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc it is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph, thus
making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine would
cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver). But I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that effects
the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently than
my
3
page doc? Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Aaron- Hide quoted text -

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The Asian languages are definitely the problem, and I'm afraid I don't know
how to eradicate them, but if you google perhaps you can find more info. You
might also try posting in the microsoft.public.word.international.features
newsgroup.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message
...
OK, what I was doing earlier today....

"Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. It’s something in that Normal."

.... no longer works. Point the problem doc to my good normal no
longer fixes the problem. This is full on Word Flackiness zone!

Aaron



On Sep 19, 4:00 pm, wrote:
I've already had the user delete her Normal and have Word recreate
it. We get the same outcome. I also noticed the (Asian) Chinese
(PRC) font reference in the problem doc after I email them and was
trying to figure out how to remove it. But after I closed down Word
and open the docs again, now I can see the Asian font reference in
both good and bad docs. Very strange. I feel like I'm entering the
Word Flackyness zone. (A place I've spent ALOT of time in over the
past few years.)

If you look at File/Properties/Summary in the problem doc you can see
the original user's name see she's got Asian characters in the
'Company' field. The good doc does not have that. Maybe the user has
some additional Asian language add-ons loaded into Word? I'm going to
check on that.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 3:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I took a look at your docs and couldn't pin anything down, either. I was
about to send them along to someone at MS to take a look at, when I read
this post, which caused me to look at the definition of Normal style in
the
problem doc. Note that it includes references to "Asian" and "Chinese
(PRC)"; I'd be willing to bet that's the issue. What's more difficult is
figuring out how to eradicate that formatting. I suspect you can't do it
without installing the Asian languages so that you get an extra tab on
the
Font dialog. Even so, it may be necessary to rename the user's
Normal.dot
and let Word generate a fresh copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne. I’ll send them along via email.

I’ve played around with the user’s Normal.dot some more and found
there is something in it that is causing the difference. Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. It’s something in that Normal.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 1:36 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the
sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do
full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and
back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is
set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening
does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets
some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still
see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the
lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back
and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very
slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two possibilities
to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right
indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have
checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look
the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot
file.
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to
reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted
boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword

wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in these
docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word 2003.
I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at the
end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document but
stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were
created
from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both are
based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The
result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3
pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my
machine
they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc lets
me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the time.
If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc it
is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph, thus
making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine would
cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver). But
I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility
switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that
effects
the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word
squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently
than
my
3
page doc? Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Aaron- Hide quoted text -

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I had the users check on any installed or turn-on language support.
They reported back that the user in question had 20+ languages enabled
in her Office Language support. (Start/Programs/Microsoft Office/
Microsoft Office Tools/Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings)

They turned off all additional languages and the pagination problem
disappeared!

We are still going to research the cause and try to detect/fix this
programmatically in our application.

Thanks to all for the help.

Aaron


On Sep 19, 4:34*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
The Asian languages are definitely the problem, and I'm afraid I don't know
how to eradicate them, but if you google perhaps you can find more info. You
might also try posting in the microsoft.public.word.international.features
newsgroup.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
OK, what I was doing earlier today....

"Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. *It’s something in that Normal."

... no longer works. *Point the problem doc to my good normal no
longer fixes the problem. *This is full on Word Flackiness zone!

Aaron

On Sep 19, 4:00 pm, wrote:



I've already had the user delete her Normal and have Word recreate
it. We get the same outcome. I also noticed the (Asian) Chinese
(PRC) font reference in the problem doc after I email them and was
trying to figure out how to remove it. But after I closed down Word
and open the docs again, now I can see the Asian font reference in
both good and bad docs. Very strange. I feel like I'm entering the
Word Flackyness zone. (A place I've spent ALOT of time in over the
past few years.)

If you look at File/Properties/Summary in the problem doc you can see
the original user's name see she's got Asian characters in the
'Company' field. The good doc does not have that. Maybe the user has
some additional Asian language add-ons loaded into Word? I'm going to
check on that.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 3:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I took a look at your docs and couldn't pin anything down, either. I was
about to send them along to someone at MS to take a look at, when I read
this post, which caused me to look at the definition of Normal style in
the
problem doc. Note that it includes references to "Asian" and "Chinese
(PRC)"; I'd be willing to bet that's the issue. What's more difficult is
figuring out how to eradicate that formatting. I suspect you can't do it
without installing the Asian languages so that you get an extra tab on
the
Font dialog. Even so, it may be necessary to rename the user's
Normal.dot
and let Word generate a fresh copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

....
Thanks Susanne. I’ll send them along via email.

I’ve played around with the user’s Normal.dot some more and found
there is something in it that is causing the difference. Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. It’s something in that Normal.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 1:36 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the
sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do
full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and
back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is
set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening
does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets
some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still
see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the
lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back
and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very
slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two possibilities
to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right
indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have
checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look
the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot
file.
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to
reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted
boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword

wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in these
docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word 2003.
I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at the
end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document but
stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were
created
from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both are
based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The
result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3
pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my
machine
they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc lets
me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the time.
If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc it
is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph, thus
making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine would
cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver). But
I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility
switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that
effects
the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word
squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently
than
my
3

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Thanks for the feedback. As a result of attempting to troubleshoot this
issue, I ended up with my Normal style contaminated with Chinese (PRC) and
had to launder it. Those languages can be very pervasive!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message
...
I had the users check on any installed or turn-on language support.
They reported back that the user in question had 20+ languages enabled
in her Office Language support. (Start/Programs/Microsoft Office/
Microsoft Office Tools/Microsoft Office 2003 Language Settings)

They turned off all additional languages and the pagination problem
disappeared!

We are still going to research the cause and try to detect/fix this
programmatically in our application.

Thanks to all for the help.

Aaron


On Sep 19, 4:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
The Asian languages are definitely the problem, and I'm afraid I don't
know
how to eradicate them, but if you google perhaps you can find more info.
You
might also try posting in the microsoft.public.word.international.features
newsgroup.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
OK, what I was doing earlier today....

"Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. It’s something in that Normal."

... no longer works. Point the problem doc to my good normal no
longer fixes the problem. This is full on Word Flackiness zone!

Aaron

On Sep 19, 4:00 pm, wrote:



I've already had the user delete her Normal and have Word recreate
it. We get the same outcome. I also noticed the (Asian) Chinese
(PRC) font reference in the problem doc after I email them and was
trying to figure out how to remove it. But after I closed down Word
and open the docs again, now I can see the Asian font reference in
both good and bad docs. Very strange. I feel like I'm entering the
Word Flackyness zone. (A place I've spent ALOT of time in over the
past few years.)

If you look at File/Properties/Summary in the problem doc you can see
the original user's name see she's got Asian characters in the
'Company' field. The good doc does not have that. Maybe the user has
some additional Asian language add-ons loaded into Word? I'm going to
check on that.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 3:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I took a look at your docs and couldn't pin anything down, either. I
was
about to send them along to someone at MS to take a look at, when I
read
this post, which caused me to look at the definition of Normal style
in
the
problem doc. Note that it includes references to "Asian" and "Chinese
(PRC)"; I'd be willing to bet that's the issue. What's more difficult
is
figuring out how to eradicate that formatting. I suspect you can't do
it
without installing the Asian languages so that you get an extra tab on
the
Font dialog. Even so, it may be necessary to rename the user's
Normal.dot
and let Word generate a fresh copy.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne. I’ll send them along via email.

I’ve played around with the user’s Normal.dot some more and found
there is something in it that is causing the difference. Attaching
our problem doc to my own Normal (and clicking the “Automatically
update document style” checkbox, which I forgot to do the first time
around) changes the text back to the way it’s supported to be.
Pointing back to the user’s Normal and it goes back to sticking that
word out to the right. It’s something in that Normal.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 1:36 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I'd be interested in having a look at the document that has the
sticking-out
word. Email it to me if you can.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

...
Thanks Susanne.

Neither of them have that setting checked.

Aaron

On Sep 19, 10:53 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

Check the Compatibility Options to see if either document has "Do
full
justification like WordPerfect 6.x for Windows" checked.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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Thanks finalword and Suzanne.

Finalword...

I tried to change styles of the paragraph to something else and
back.
No change, still have the extra word pushing out past the text
boundaries.

I’ve played with the compatibility with no luck. My 3 page doc is
set
as “Microsoft Word 2002” my 2 page doc is set as “Microsoft Office
Word 2003”. Changing the 2003 back to 2002, saving and reopening
does
not change the situation.

Trying to copy only text and not the trailing paragraph marker is
no
good either. My 2 page doc seems to have some mutation that lets
some
lines push past the right text boundary. I can clear all text out
of
the doc, grab clean text from another doc, paste it in and I still
see
some text pushing out to the right.

Suzanne...

There are no ruler difference between the two docs.

I checked the font properties. Neither of the docs or the
lines/words
in question have fonts that are set to compressed.

One thing I noticed as I have both docs open is if I Alt-Cntl back
and
forth between windows I can see slightly different spacing between
some characters elsewhere in the same line of text. It’s very
slight,
but it’s noticeable. Other areas in the document line up perfectly
between the two docs.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 4:39 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

In the case of the sticking-out word, there are two
possibilities
to
check.
Look at the ruler. Has the paragraph been given a negative right
indent
to
keep the word on this line? If not, select the paragraph and go
to
Format
|
Font. On the Line and Page Breaks tab, see if the font has been
Condensed.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

wrote in message

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I have not done a complete comparison of all styles. I have
checked
the Normal style bewteen the two docs and all the settings look
the
same.

I thought about it being a difference in the user's Normal.dot
file.
I had the user send me her Normal.dot but i was not able to
reproduce
the specific pagination she is seeing on her machine.

One thing of interest: When I turn on Tools/Options/View/Text
Boundaries in the user's 2 page doc I can see the last word in
the
problem paragraph sticks out just past the right side dotted
boundary
line. On my 3 page doc the last word wraps to the next line.

Aaron

On Sep 17, 3:05 pm, finalword

wrote:

Did you check the page setup and header/footer spacing in
these
docs.
Do
both documents contains exactly the same styles?

" wrote:
I have a question about Word document pagination in Word
2003.
I
have
two documents that are paginating differently. One word at
the
end
of
one of the paragraphs kicks onto 4th line in one document
but
stays
on
the 3rd line of the other. Both of these documents were
created
from
an documentation generation system written in VBA and both
are
based
on the Normal template on different user’s machines. The
result of
this single extra line is that one document kicks onto 3
pages,
while
the other is only 2 pages.

If I bring the 2 page and 3 page Word documents onto my
machine
they
seem to maintain this formatting. Meaning, the 2 page doc
lets
me
fit
the extra work on the 3rd line of the paragraph all the
time.
If I
copy/paste the text from the 3 page doc into the 2 page doc
it
is
able
to squeeze that word into the 3rd line of the paragraph,
thus
making
it a 2 page doc.

I’ve read about printer driver settings effecting onscreen
pagination,
but I would think that bringing both docs to my machine
would
cause
them to be formatted the same (based on my print driver).
But
I’m
not
seeing that.

I’ve also played around with Tools/Options/Compatibility
switching
between 2002 and 2003 but have not found a setting that
effects
the
pagination as I’m seeing in the two docs.

Any ideas? Why is does my 2 page doc (with the extra word
squeezed
onto the 3rd line of one of the paragraphs) act differently
than
my
3

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