Absolute hyperlinks without losing local hyperlinks! 2nd attempt

So since all this traffic, has there been a solution to using TOC hyperlinks
when the Hyperlink Base (which I have to do for my situation) is set?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There are some settings you can check on. The problems I had were in trying
to maintain relative links in Web pages; inability to do this forced me to
upgrade to FrontPage for Web authoring, which of course was the right
decision. But have a look at these variables:

1. Hyperlink base in File | Properties. There seem to be varying opinions
about whether having one or not having one helps.

2. Tools | Options | General: Update automatic links at Open.

3. Tools | Options | General: Web Options... | Files: Update links on save.
(My problem was with "updating" links on open rather than save, however.)

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"MattM" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Fred, Many thanks for getting back to me on this one.

Fred: I think you are saying that, for you, Word *doesn't* convert
absolute
hyperlinks to relative if you use a full absolute path, in the form
\\servername\volume\folder1\folder2\...\docname.do c, in the hyperlink
destination box.

That is *not* my experience - Word automatically converts even this into a
relative path.

I don't know why it does this: it's not at all helpful, and presumably it
would have been less work for the Word programmers not have implemented
this
feature.

Unfortunately I don't have access to the exact version of Word/Windows I
use
in my workplace right now, but I believe it's Word 2002 running on Windows
XP. I'll do yet more experimentation with this in the office tomorrow and
try
and post some specific details of the behaviour of my version of Word in
various situations, in the hope this will shed a little more light here.

Thanks again, M

In what situation does this affect TOC hyperlinks? Ordinarily this is not an
issue.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"FrequentWordie" wrote in message
...
So since all this traffic, has there been a solution to using TOC
hyperlinks
when the Hyperlink Base (which I have to do for my situation) is set?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There are some settings you can check on. The problems I had were in
trying
to maintain relative links in Web pages; inability to do this forced me
to
upgrade to FrontPage for Web authoring, which of course was the right
decision. But have a look at these variables:

1. Hyperlink base in File | Properties. There seem to be varying opinions
about whether having one or not having one helps.

2. Tools | Options | General: Update automatic links at Open.

3. Tools | Options | General: Web Options... | Files: Update links on
save.
(My problem was with "updating" links on open rather than save, however.)

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"MattM" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Fred, Many thanks for getting back to me on this one.

Fred: I think you are saying that, for you, Word *doesn't* convert
absolute
hyperlinks to relative if you use a full absolute path, in the form
\\servername\volume\folder1\folder2\...\docname.do c, in the hyperlink
destination box.

That is *not* my experience - Word automatically converts even this
into a
relative path.

I don't know why it does this: it's not at all helpful, and presumably
it
would have been less work for the Word programmers not have implemented
this
feature.

Unfortunately I don't have access to the exact version of Word/Windows
I
use
in my workplace right now, but I believe it's Word 2002 running on
Windows
XP. I'll do yet more experimentation with this in the office tomorrow
and
try
and post some specific details of the behaviour of my version of Word
in
various situations, in the hope this will shed a little more light
here.

Thanks again, M

We have various mirrored servers at different sites with the main server
containing the main file (using lots of include test and other hyper links)
that points to many locations. I chose to set up the base hyperlink to
position the hyperlink pointer at the most convenient place and at the point
that is mirrored using the same initial drive letter so all links would work,
which they do. The issue is that once I set it up, I lost the ability to use
either the built in TOC or /h hyperlinks to the various heading in the main
document. I think I also lost the ability to use bookmarks as the target as
well but need to check that out. I tried everything I could think of to get
the TOC working again and also many alternative ways to get the external
links to work short of setting the base hyperlink.
By the way the behaviour of the TOC click is Word opens a new file explorer
window to the hyperlink base location.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In what situation does this affect TOC hyperlinks? Ordinarily this is not an
issue.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"FrequentWordie" wrote in message
...
So since all this traffic, has there been a solution to using TOC
hyperlinks
when the Hyperlink Base (which I have to do for my situation) is set?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There are some settings you can check on. The problems I had were in
trying
to maintain relative links in Web pages; inability to do this forced me
to
upgrade to FrontPage for Web authoring, which of course was the right
decision. But have a look at these variables:

1. Hyperlink base in File | Properties. There seem to be varying opinions
about whether having one or not having one helps.

2. Tools | Options | General: Update automatic links at Open.

3. Tools | Options | General: Web Options... | Files: Update links on
save.
(My problem was with "updating" links on open rather than save, however.)

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"MattM" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Fred, Many thanks for getting back to me on this one.

Fred: I think you are saying that, for you, Word *doesn't* convert
absolute
hyperlinks to relative if you use a full absolute path, in the form
\\servername\volume\folder1\folder2\...\docname.do c, in the hyperlink
destination box.

That is *not* my experience - Word automatically converts even this
into a
relative path.

I don't know why it does this: it's not at all helpful, and presumably
it
would have been less work for the Word programmers not have implemented
this
feature.

Unfortunately I don't have access to the exact version of Word/Windows
I
use
in my workplace right now, but I believe it's Word 2002 running on
Windows
XP. I'll do yet more experimentation with this in the office tomorrow
and
try
and post some specific details of the behaviour of my version of Word
in
various situations, in the hope this will shed a little more light
here.

Thanks again, M

I think we're talking at cross-purposes here. The TOC generated by a TOC
field has hyperlinks to headings in the current document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"FrequentWordie" wrote in message
...
We have various mirrored servers at different sites with the main server
containing the main file (using lots of include test and other hyper
links)
that points to many locations. I chose to set up the base hyperlink to
position the hyperlink pointer at the most convenient place and at the
point
that is mirrored using the same initial drive letter so all links would
work,
which they do. The issue is that once I set it up, I lost the ability to
use
either the built in TOC or /h hyperlinks to the various heading in the
main
document. I think I also lost the ability to use bookmarks as the target
as
well but need to check that out. I tried everything I could think of to
get
the TOC working again and also many alternative ways to get the external
links to work short of setting the base hyperlink.
By the way the behaviour of the TOC click is Word opens a new file
explorer
window to the hyperlink base location.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In what situation does this affect TOC hyperlinks? Ordinarily this is not
an
issue.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"FrequentWordie" wrote in
message
...
So since all this traffic, has there been a solution to using TOC
hyperlinks
when the Hyperlink Base (which I have to do for my situation) is set?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There are some settings you can check on. The problems I had were in
trying
to maintain relative links in Web pages; inability to do this forced
me
to
upgrade to FrontPage for Web authoring, which of course was the right
decision. But have a look at these variables:

1. Hyperlink base in File | Properties. There seem to be varying
opinions
about whether having one or not having one helps.

2. Tools | Options | General: Update automatic links at Open.

3. Tools | Options | General: Web Options... | Files: Update links on
save.
(My problem was with "updating" links on open rather than save,
however.)

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"MattM" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Fred, Many thanks for getting back to me on this one.

Fred: I think you are saying that, for you, Word *doesn't* convert
absolute
hyperlinks to relative if you use a full absolute path, in the form
\\servername\volume\folder1\folder2\...\docname.do c, in the
hyperlink
destination box.

That is *not* my experience - Word automatically converts even this
into a
relative path.

I don't know why it does this: it's not at all helpful, and
presumably
it
would have been less work for the Word programmers not have
implemented
this
feature.

Unfortunately I don't have access to the exact version of
Word/Windows
I
use
in my workplace right now, but I believe it's Word 2002 running on
Windows
XP. I'll do yet more experimentation with this in the office
tomorrow
and
try
and post some specific details of the behaviour of my version of
Word
in
various situations, in the hope this will shed a little more light
here.

Thanks again, M

The problem is if I set the Hyperlink Base in Files | Properties, then the
Word generated hyperlinks to heading from the TOC does not work. I described
this in my last reply. Is there a workaround to this issue?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I think we're talking at cross-purposes here. The TOC generated by a TOC
field has hyperlinks to headings in the current document.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"FrequentWordie" wrote in message
...
We have various mirrored servers at different sites with the main server
containing the main file (using lots of include test and other hyper
links)
that points to many locations. I chose to set up the base hyperlink to
position the hyperlink pointer at the most convenient place and at the
point
that is mirrored using the same initial drive letter so all links would
work,
which they do. The issue is that once I set it up, I lost the ability to
use
either the built in TOC or /h hyperlinks to the various heading in the
main
document. I think I also lost the ability to use bookmarks as the target
as
well but need to check that out. I tried everything I could think of to
get
the TOC working again and also many alternative ways to get the external
links to work short of setting the base hyperlink.
By the way the behaviour of the TOC click is Word opens a new file
explorer
window to the hyperlink base location.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

In what situation does this affect TOC hyperlinks? Ordinarily this is not
an
issue.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"FrequentWordie" wrote in
message
...
So since all this traffic, has there been a solution to using TOC
hyperlinks
when the Hyperlink Base (which I have to do for my situation) is set?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

There are some settings you can check on. The problems I had were in
trying
to maintain relative links in Web pages; inability to do this forced
me
to
upgrade to FrontPage for Web authoring, which of course was the right
decision. But have a look at these variables:

1. Hyperlink base in File | Properties. There seem to be varying
opinions
about whether having one or not having one helps.

2. Tools | Options | General: Update automatic links at Open.

3. Tools | Options | General: Web Options... | Files: Update links on
save.
(My problem was with "updating" links on open rather than save,
however.)

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"MattM" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, Fred, Many thanks for getting back to me on this one.

Fred: I think you are saying that, for you, Word *doesn't* convert
absolute
hyperlinks to relative if you use a full absolute path, in the form
\\servername\volume\folder1\folder2\...\docname.do c, in the
hyperlink
destination box.

That is *not* my experience - Word automatically converts even this
into a
relative path.

I don't know why it does this: it's not at all helpful, and
presumably
it
would have been less work for the Word programmers not have
implemented
this
feature.

Unfortunately I don't have access to the exact version of
Word/Windows
I
use
in my workplace right now, but I believe it's Word 2002 running on
Windows
XP. I'll do yet more experimentation with this in the office
tomorrow
and
try
and post some specific details of the behaviour of my version of
Word
in
various situations, in the hope this will shed a little more light
here.

Thanks again, M

The problem is the Excel limit of 219 caracteres.
My team had links as R:\myexcel.xls inside its MS Office 2003 documents.
Everything went well.

But when we installed the Office Service Pack 3, the Office now
automatically translate to
\\madomaine\myshare\myfolder1\myfolder2\a lot of folders\foder n\myexcel.xls

What a nigthmare. The Windows is not able to open the Excel files.


"Idaho Word Man" wrote:

...
But when I went to My Network Places and searched for the Gemini server, I
got an address that looked like \\Zodiac\Gemini\TechWriters\document.doc.
When I used that kind of address in my hyperlinks (instead of
e:\TechWriters\document.doc), everything worked fine for everybody.

What am I missing in this problem?

Fred

Try unchecking tools options general web options files update
links on save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Paulo wrote:
The problem is the Excel limit of 219 caracteres.
My team had links as R:\myexcel.xls inside its MS Office 2003
documents. Everything went well.

But when we installed the Office Service Pack 3, the Office now
automatically translate to
\\madomaine\myshare\myfolder1\myfolder2\a lot of folders\foder
n\myexcel.xls

What a nigthmare. The Windows is not able to open the Excel files.


"Idaho Word Man" wrote:

...
But when I went to My Network Places and searched for the Gemini
server, I got an address that looked like
\\Zodiac\Gemini\TechWriters\document.doc. When I used that kind of
address in my hyperlinks (instead of e:\TechWriters\document.doc),
everything worked fine for everybody.

What am I missing in this problem?

Fred

Voila! I've spent hours repairing broken links in a long Word 2007 document
that was saved on SharePoint server. Here's where I found the selection box
that was probably causing the problem:
1. In the Word document, click the colored circle at the top left.
2. At the bottom of the drop-down menu that appears, click Word Options.
3. In the left column, click Advanced.
4. Scroll to the end of the window and click the Web Options button.
5. Click the Files tab.
6. De-select the "Update links on save" option.
7. Click OK to close the windows and go celebrate!

Now I'm wondering if there is a way to make this the default so that I don't
have to do it on every document.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Try unchecking tools options general web options files update
links on save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Paulo wrote:
The problem is the Excel limit of 219 caracteres.
My team had links as R:\myexcel.xls inside its MS Office 2003
documents. Everything went well.

But when we installed the Office Service Pack 3, the Office now
automatically translate to
\\madomaine\myshare\myfolder1\myfolder2\a lot of folders\foder
n\myexcel.xls

What a nigthmare. The Windows is not able to open the Excel files.


"Idaho Word Man" wrote:

...
But when I went to My Network Places and searched for the Gemini
server, I got an address that looked like
\\Zodiac\Gemini\TechWriters\document.doc. When I used that kind of
address in my hyperlinks (instead of e:\TechWriters\document.doc),
everything worked fine for everybody.

What am I missing in this problem?

Fred

It looks like the steps that I list above do make this the default for all
your Word documents, so you might need to do some repair of old files but the
links should remain as you want them in new files.

"Kees" wrote:

Voila! I've spent hours repairing broken links in a long Word 2007 document
that was saved on SharePoint server. Here's where I found the selection box
that was probably causing the problem:
1. In the Word document, click the colored circle at the top left.
2. At the bottom of the drop-down menu that appears, click Word Options.
3. In the left column, click Advanced.
4. Scroll to the end of the window and click the Web Options button.
5. Click the Files tab.
6. De-select the "Update links on save" option.
7. Click OK to close the windows and go celebrate!

Now I'm wondering if there is a way to make this the default so that I don't
have to do it on every document.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Try unchecking tools options general web options files update
links on save.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Paulo wrote:
The problem is the Excel limit of 219 caracteres.
My team had links as R:\myexcel.xls inside its MS Office 2003
documents. Everything went well.

But when we installed the Office Service Pack 3, the Office now
automatically translate to
\\madomaine\myshare\myfolder1\myfolder2\a lot of folders\foder
n\myexcel.xls

What a nigthmare. The Windows is not able to open the Excel files.


"Idaho Word Man" wrote:

...
But when I went to My Network Places and searched for the Gemini
server, I got an address that looked like
\\Zodiac\Gemini\TechWriters\document.doc. When I used that kind of
address in my hyperlinks (instead of e:\TechWriters\document.doc),
everything worked fine for everybody.

What am I missing in this problem?

Fred