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Beware of MathType !
I am an university educator and I spent a lot of time editing scientific
works for myself and together with the students. During a (long) number of years I noticed that "implants" from Eq Editor, MathType and other such programs - compared to Eq fields (Word native eq editor) - have the following disadvantages: * increase the file size and are proned to fail (I saw a lot of big red "X" instead of eq's in my colleagues papers) * are computer dependent (used styles are different from computer to computer) - if you merge to files with eq written on 2 computers, eq's may look different. * chapters of a large paper/thesis - edited on different computers - are easier to put together when using fields (i.e. numbering of eq such as {EQ SEQ}) * if you decide to change a variable name from "a" to "b", you have to open EACH and every MathType eq and change EACH instance of the variable; with fields, a "find and replace" command will do the job in an instance. I agree that MathType is more intuitive, but I advice to use it on that your paper is in a final form, you edit it from start to end and print it on the same computer, and you won't use (part of) it's contents elsewhere. Now, .... it's up to you. Good luck ! "Bob Mathews" wrote in message ... You've gotten some good advise toward answering your questions already, but you can also see it's a lot of work to follow the instructions you've been given here. MathType could have saved you a lot of time and trouble, and you can get back to writing your thesis. When you install MathType, it adds a MathType tab to Word's Ribbon. On the MathType tab is a command to insert a numbered display (i.e., centered) equation. The equation is automatically centered, and the number is automatically at the right margin, in whatever format you want -- (1), {1}, 1.1, 1-1.1, etc. You can insert chapter and section breaks, and MathType recognizes that. You can include references to the equations in the text of your document. The references and equation numbers are linked, such that if you add or delete one, all the ones beneath it are re-numbered. You can have your equations 14pt and your document 10pt if you want. There's a 30-day trial of MathType if you want to try it out. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 15-Jun-2009, Maja wrote: I am writing my thesis and have two struggles. First, I have to center my formulas, but the numbering of my formulas has to be at the end of the line. However, I don't know how to do that. Either everything is centered within one line or everything is aligned on the right. Is there a way to set this up? Also, my formulas are always written in font 10 and I'd like to adjust the settings so that all formulas are always written in font 14. How can I do that? |
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Beware of MathType !
Crios, while it is true that earlier versions of Word had problems
with large documents, these issues appear to have been resolved in the latest versions of Word. You speak of documents being computer-dependent, but it's not that so much as it is being font-dependent. This is an issue regardless of what software you're using. It's more difficult when moving between operating systems, and when equations are involved, but we have articles on our site that explain how to deal with that, as well as how to embed the fonts in a document so that it's not a problem. Specifically, TechNote #50 (http://www.dessci.com/en/support/mathtype/allnotes.htm) and our tip titled "Creating transportable Word documents and PowerPoint presentations" (http://www.dessci.com/en/support/mat...tips/embed.htm) should be a great help. Your point about find & replace is a feature that's very often requested by our customers. We like to hear from customers and to know what features they'd like to see in future MathType, and in fact this is a feature we're looking to implement in a future release. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor |
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Beware of MathType !
hey that all makes sense. However, I am still confused what Eq fields even is and how I can implement it. I've tried to google it but cannot find out how to really make this work. :-/ Could you give me a beginners intro in some words of how to even find this eq fields button or option? Maja "Crios" wrote: I am an university educator and I spent a lot of time editing scientific works for myself and together with the students. During a (long) number of years I noticed that "implants" from Eq Editor, MathType and other such programs - compared to Eq fields (Word native eq editor) - have the following disadvantages: * increase the file size and are proned to fail (I saw a lot of big red "X" instead of eq's in my colleagues papers) * are computer dependent (used styles are different from computer to computer) - if you merge to files with eq written on 2 computers, eq's may look different. * chapters of a large paper/thesis - edited on different computers - are easier to put together when using fields (i.e. numbering of eq such as {EQ SEQ}) * if you decide to change a variable name from "a" to "b", you have to open EACH and every MathType eq and change EACH instance of the variable; with fields, a "find and replace" command will do the job in an instance. I agree that MathType is more intuitive, but I advice to use it on that your paper is in a final form, you edit it from start to end and print it on the same computer, and you won't use (part of) it's contents elsewhere. Now, .... it's up to you. Good luck ! "Bob Mathews" wrote in message ... You've gotten some good advise toward answering your questions already, but you can also see it's a lot of work to follow the instructions you've been given here. MathType could have saved you a lot of time and trouble, and you can get back to writing your thesis. When you install MathType, it adds a MathType tab to Word's Ribbon. On the MathType tab is a command to insert a numbered display (i.e., centered) equation. The equation is automatically centered, and the number is automatically at the right margin, in whatever format you want -- (1), {1}, 1.1, 1-1.1, etc. You can insert chapter and section breaks, and MathType recognizes that. You can include references to the equations in the text of your document. The references and equation numbers are linked, such that if you add or delete one, all the ones beneath it are re-numbered. You can have your equations 14pt and your document 10pt if you want. There's a 30-day trial of MathType if you want to try it out. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 15-Jun-2009, Maja wrote: I am writing my thesis and have two struggles. First, I have to center my formulas, but the numbering of my formulas has to be at the end of the line. However, I don't know how to do that. Either everything is centered within one line or everything is aligned on the right. Is there a way to set this up? Also, my formulas are always written in font 10 and I'd like to adjust the settings so that all formulas are always written in font 14. How can I do that? |
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Beware of MathType !
You can get help on EQ fields at
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/wo...861481033.aspx, and there are examples of some uses at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/CreateFraction.htm and http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm and http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/C...Characters.htm. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Maja" wrote in message ... hey that all makes sense. However, I am still confused what Eq fields even is and how I can implement it. I've tried to google it but cannot find out how to really make this work. :-/ Could you give me a beginners intro in some words of how to even find this eq fields button or option? Maja "Crios" wrote: I am an university educator and I spent a lot of time editing scientific works for myself and together with the students. During a (long) number of years I noticed that "implants" from Eq Editor, MathType and other such programs - compared to Eq fields (Word native eq editor) - have the following disadvantages: * increase the file size and are proned to fail (I saw a lot of big red "X" instead of eq's in my colleagues papers) * are computer dependent (used styles are different from computer to computer) - if you merge to files with eq written on 2 computers, eq's may look different. * chapters of a large paper/thesis - edited on different computers - are easier to put together when using fields (i.e. numbering of eq such as {EQ SEQ}) * if you decide to change a variable name from "a" to "b", you have to open EACH and every MathType eq and change EACH instance of the variable; with fields, a "find and replace" command will do the job in an instance. I agree that MathType is more intuitive, but I advice to use it on that your paper is in a final form, you edit it from start to end and print it on the same computer, and you won't use (part of) it's contents elsewhere. Now, .... it's up to you. Good luck ! "Bob Mathews" wrote in message ... You've gotten some good advise toward answering your questions already, but you can also see it's a lot of work to follow the instructions you've been given here. MathType could have saved you a lot of time and trouble, and you can get back to writing your thesis. When you install MathType, it adds a MathType tab to Word's Ribbon. On the MathType tab is a command to insert a numbered display (i.e., centered) equation. The equation is automatically centered, and the number is automatically at the right margin, in whatever format you want -- (1), {1}, 1.1, 1-1.1, etc. You can insert chapter and section breaks, and MathType recognizes that. You can include references to the equations in the text of your document. The references and equation numbers are linked, such that if you add or delete one, all the ones beneath it are re-numbered. You can have your equations 14pt and your document 10pt if you want. There's a 30-day trial of MathType if you want to try it out. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 15-Jun-2009, Maja wrote: I am writing my thesis and have two struggles. First, I have to center my formulas, but the numbering of my formulas has to be at the end of the line. However, I don't know how to do that. Either everything is centered within one line or everything is aligned on the right. Is there a way to set this up? Also, my formulas are always written in font 10 and I'd like to adjust the settings so that all formulas are always written in font 14. How can I do that? |
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Using fields
First of all read the Help for "Field codes: Eq (Equation) field" (Word
2003) There are 2 ways for inserting fields: * command based: Insert/Field/Categories:Eq &formulas/EQ/Field codes/Options - Read description ! * keyboard based: Ctrl F9 - insert the field; afterwards you have to write the field code and switches; for example, in order to create a fraction you have to write between the 2 accolades: "EQ \F(a,b)" (without quotes) - what U C is the "field code"; in order to switch to field result you have to press Shift+F9 Hope this helps. PS for Bob Mathews: I am only an user and I express my personal opinion regarding writing equations. "Maja" wrote in message ... hey that all makes sense. However, I am still confused what Eq fields even is and how I can implement it. I've tried to google it but cannot find out how to really make this work. :-/ Could you give me a beginners intro in some words of how to even find this eq fields button or option? Maja "Crios" wrote: I am an university educator and I spent a lot of time editing scientific works for myself and together with the students. During a (long) number of years I noticed that "implants" from Eq Editor, MathType and other such programs - compared to Eq fields (Word native eq editor) - have the following disadvantages: * increase the file size and are proned to fail (I saw a lot of big red "X" instead of eq's in my colleagues papers) * are computer dependent (used styles are different from computer to computer) - if you merge to files with eq written on 2 computers, eq's may look different. * chapters of a large paper/thesis - edited on different computers - are easier to put together when using fields (i.e. numbering of eq such as {EQ SEQ}) * if you decide to change a variable name from "a" to "b", you have to open EACH and every MathType eq and change EACH instance of the variable; with fields, a "find and replace" command will do the job in an instance. I agree that MathType is more intuitive, but I advice to use it on that your paper is in a final form, you edit it from start to end and print it on the same computer, and you won't use (part of) it's contents elsewhere. Now, .... it's up to you. Good luck ! "Bob Mathews" wrote in message ... You've gotten some good advise toward answering your questions already, but you can also see it's a lot of work to follow the instructions you've been given here. MathType could have saved you a lot of time and trouble, and you can get back to writing your thesis. When you install MathType, it adds a MathType tab to Word's Ribbon. On the MathType tab is a command to insert a numbered display (i.e., centered) equation. The equation is automatically centered, and the number is automatically at the right margin, in whatever format you want -- (1), {1}, 1.1, 1-1.1, etc. You can insert chapter and section breaks, and MathType recognizes that. You can include references to the equations in the text of your document. The references and equation numbers are linked, such that if you add or delete one, all the ones beneath it are re-numbered. You can have your equations 14pt and your document 10pt if you want. There's a 30-day trial of MathType if you want to try it out. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 15-Jun-2009, Maja wrote: I am writing my thesis and have two struggles. First, I have to center my formulas, but the numbering of my formulas has to be at the end of the line. However, I don't know how to do that. Either everything is centered within one line or everything is aligned on the right. Is there a way to set this up? Also, my formulas are always written in font 10 and I'd like to adjust the settings so that all formulas are always written in font 14. How can I do that? |
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Using fields
hey I finally figured it out! Thanks for the help! It seems more complicated than the equation editor, but I will give it a try and see how it works out! "Crios" wrote: First of all read the Help for "Field codes: Eq (Equation) field" (Word 2003) There are 2 ways for inserting fields: * command based: Insert/Field/Categories:Eq &formulas/EQ/Field codes/Options - Read description ! * keyboard based: Ctrl F9 - insert the field; afterwards you have to write the field code and switches; for example, in order to create a fraction you have to write between the 2 accolades: "EQ \F(a,b)" (without quotes) - what U C is the "field code"; in order to switch to field result you have to press Shift+F9 Hope this helps. PS for Bob Mathews: I am only an user and I express my personal opinion regarding writing equations. "Maja" wrote in message ... hey that all makes sense. However, I am still confused what Eq fields even is and how I can implement it. I've tried to google it but cannot find out how to really make this work. :-/ Could you give me a beginners intro in some words of how to even find this eq fields button or option? Maja "Crios" wrote: I am an university educator and I spent a lot of time editing scientific works for myself and together with the students. During a (long) number of years I noticed that "implants" from Eq Editor, MathType and other such programs - compared to Eq fields (Word native eq editor) - have the following disadvantages: * increase the file size and are proned to fail (I saw a lot of big red "X" instead of eq's in my colleagues papers) * are computer dependent (used styles are different from computer to computer) - if you merge to files with eq written on 2 computers, eq's may look different. * chapters of a large paper/thesis - edited on different computers - are easier to put together when using fields (i.e. numbering of eq such as {EQ SEQ}) * if you decide to change a variable name from "a" to "b", you have to open EACH and every MathType eq and change EACH instance of the variable; with fields, a "find and replace" command will do the job in an instance. I agree that MathType is more intuitive, but I advice to use it on that your paper is in a final form, you edit it from start to end and print it on the same computer, and you won't use (part of) it's contents elsewhere. Now, .... it's up to you. Good luck ! "Bob Mathews" wrote in message ... You've gotten some good advise toward answering your questions already, but you can also see it's a lot of work to follow the instructions you've been given here. MathType could have saved you a lot of time and trouble, and you can get back to writing your thesis. When you install MathType, it adds a MathType tab to Word's Ribbon. On the MathType tab is a command to insert a numbered display (i.e., centered) equation. The equation is automatically centered, and the number is automatically at the right margin, in whatever format you want -- (1), {1}, 1.1, 1-1.1, etc. You can insert chapter and section breaks, and MathType recognizes that. You can include references to the equations in the text of your document. The references and equation numbers are linked, such that if you add or delete one, all the ones beneath it are re-numbered. You can have your equations 14pt and your document 10pt if you want. There's a 30-day trial of MathType if you want to try it out. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 15-Jun-2009, Maja wrote: I am writing my thesis and have two struggles. First, I have to center my formulas, but the numbering of my formulas has to be at the end of the line. However, I don't know how to do that. Either everything is centered within one line or everything is aligned on the right. Is there a way to set this up? Also, my formulas are always written in font 10 and I'd like to adjust the settings so that all formulas are always written in font 14. How can I do that? |
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Using fields
hey I have one last question I actually like this field equation editor now a lot But I can't find a multiply sign. Franctions whatever all has symbols but how do I make a dot? Do I have to insert it with symbols now? "Crios" wrote: First of all read the Help for "Field codes: Eq (Equation) field" (Word 2003) There are 2 ways for inserting fields: * command based: Insert/Field/Categories:Eq &formulas/EQ/Field codes/Options - Read description ! * keyboard based: Ctrl F9 - insert the field; afterwards you have to write the field code and switches; for example, in order to create a fraction you have to write between the 2 accolades: "EQ \F(a,b)" (without quotes) - what U C is the "field code"; in order to switch to field result you have to press Shift+F9 Hope this helps. PS for Bob Mathews: I am only an user and I express my personal opinion regarding writing equations. "Maja" wrote in message ... hey that all makes sense. However, I am still confused what Eq fields even is and how I can implement it. I've tried to google it but cannot find out how to really make this work. :-/ Could you give me a beginners intro in some words of how to even find this eq fields button or option? Maja "Crios" wrote: I am an university educator and I spent a lot of time editing scientific works for myself and together with the students. During a (long) number of years I noticed that "implants" from Eq Editor, MathType and other such programs - compared to Eq fields (Word native eq editor) - have the following disadvantages: * increase the file size and are proned to fail (I saw a lot of big red "X" instead of eq's in my colleagues papers) * are computer dependent (used styles are different from computer to computer) - if you merge to files with eq written on 2 computers, eq's may look different. * chapters of a large paper/thesis - edited on different computers - are easier to put together when using fields (i.e. numbering of eq such as {EQ SEQ}) * if you decide to change a variable name from "a" to "b", you have to open EACH and every MathType eq and change EACH instance of the variable; with fields, a "find and replace" command will do the job in an instance. I agree that MathType is more intuitive, but I advice to use it on that your paper is in a final form, you edit it from start to end and print it on the same computer, and you won't use (part of) it's contents elsewhere. Now, .... it's up to you. Good luck ! "Bob Mathews" wrote in message ... You've gotten some good advise toward answering your questions already, but you can also see it's a lot of work to follow the instructions you've been given here. MathType could have saved you a lot of time and trouble, and you can get back to writing your thesis. When you install MathType, it adds a MathType tab to Word's Ribbon. On the MathType tab is a command to insert a numbered display (i.e., centered) equation. The equation is automatically centered, and the number is automatically at the right margin, in whatever format you want -- (1), {1}, 1.1, 1-1.1, etc. You can insert chapter and section breaks, and MathType recognizes that. You can include references to the equations in the text of your document. The references and equation numbers are linked, such that if you add or delete one, all the ones beneath it are re-numbered. You can have your equations 14pt and your document 10pt if you want. There's a 30-day trial of MathType if you want to try it out. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 15-Jun-2009, Maja wrote: I am writing my thesis and have two struggles. First, I have to center my formulas, but the numbering of my formulas has to be at the end of the line. However, I don't know how to do that. Either everything is centered within one line or everything is aligned on the right. Is there a way to set this up? Also, my formulas are always written in font 10 and I'd like to adjust the settings so that all formulas are always written in font 14. How can I do that? |
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Using fields
Yes (check normal text and also symbol font type).
"Maja" wrote in message news hey I have one last question I actually like this field equation editor now a lot But I can't find a multiply sign. Franctions whatever all has symbols but how do I make a dot? Do I have to insert it with symbols now? "Crios" wrote: First of all read the Help for "Field codes: Eq (Equation) field" (Word 2003) There are 2 ways for inserting fields: * command based: Insert/Field/Categories:Eq &formulas/EQ/Field codes/Options - Read description ! * keyboard based: Ctrl F9 - insert the field; afterwards you have to write the field code and switches; for example, in order to create a fraction you have to write between the 2 accolades: "EQ \F(a,b)" (without quotes) - what U C is the "field code"; in order to switch to field result you have to press Shift+F9 Hope this helps. PS for Bob Mathews: I am only an user and I express my personal opinion regarding writing equations. "Maja" wrote in message ... hey that all makes sense. However, I am still confused what Eq fields even is and how I can implement it. I've tried to google it but cannot find out how to really make this work. :-/ Could you give me a beginners intro in some words of how to even find this eq fields button or option? Maja "Crios" wrote: I am an university educator and I spent a lot of time editing scientific works for myself and together with the students. During a (long) number of years I noticed that "implants" from Eq Editor, MathType and other such programs - compared to Eq fields (Word native eq editor) - have the following disadvantages: * increase the file size and are proned to fail (I saw a lot of big red "X" instead of eq's in my colleagues papers) * are computer dependent (used styles are different from computer to computer) - if you merge to files with eq written on 2 computers, eq's may look different. * chapters of a large paper/thesis - edited on different computers - are easier to put together when using fields (i.e. numbering of eq such as {EQ SEQ}) * if you decide to change a variable name from "a" to "b", you have to open EACH and every MathType eq and change EACH instance of the variable; with fields, a "find and replace" command will do the job in an instance. I agree that MathType is more intuitive, but I advice to use it on that your paper is in a final form, you edit it from start to end and print it on the same computer, and you won't use (part of) it's contents elsewhere. Now, .... it's up to you. Good luck ! "Bob Mathews" wrote in message ... You've gotten some good advise toward answering your questions already, but you can also see it's a lot of work to follow the instructions you've been given here. MathType could have saved you a lot of time and trouble, and you can get back to writing your thesis. When you install MathType, it adds a MathType tab to Word's Ribbon. On the MathType tab is a command to insert a numbered display (i.e., centered) equation. The equation is automatically centered, and the number is automatically at the right margin, in whatever format you want -- (1), {1}, 1.1, 1-1.1, etc. You can insert chapter and section breaks, and MathType recognizes that. You can include references to the equations in the text of your document. The references and equation numbers are linked, such that if you add or delete one, all the ones beneath it are re-numbered. You can have your equations 14pt and your document 10pt if you want. There's a 30-day trial of MathType if you want to try it out. -- Bob Mathews Director of Training Design Science, Inc. bobm at dessci.com http://www.dessci.com/free.asp?free=news FREE fully-functional 30-day evaluation of MathType MathType, MathFlow, MathPlayer, MathDaisy, Equation Editor On 15-Jun-2009, Maja wrote: I am writing my thesis and have two struggles. First, I have to center my formulas, but the numbering of my formulas has to be at the end of the line. However, I don't know how to do that. Either everything is centered within one line or everything is aligned on the right. Is there a way to set this up? Also, my formulas are always written in font 10 and I'd like to adjust the settings so that all formulas are always written in font 14. How can I do that? |
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How do I center a formula, and the number at the end of the line?
Here is a way I found to number and reference equations, using the Microsoft
caption tab, for my thesis. It takes a little work at the very end, but it has worked well for me. Insert your equation using Equation Editor 3.0, (I personally cannot use the Equation option on the Insert Ribbon because the font isn't Times New Roman). After the equation select "Insert Caption". Make the label "Equations", select "Exclude Label from Caption", set your numbering preferences, then hit OK. Next setup your centered and left tabs and move the equation and reference to the desired position on the line. To the right of your equation number, type in the number as you would like it to appear, I prefer having the number in (). Then highlight the caption number and change the font color to white. Now to reference the number in your text, write what text you want before, then select "Cross-reference" and under the "Insert Reference To" select "Only Caption Text". This will insert the number you typed after the caption number but not the actual caption number itself. Once you're done, if you need to renumber equations, just set go to each equation label and check what the caption number is and change your text number to match. "Maja" wrote: I am writing my thesis and have two struggles. First, I have to center my formulas, but the numbering of my formulas has to be at the end of the line. However, I don't know how to do that. Either everything is centered within one line or everything is aligned on the right. Is there a way to set this up? Also, my formulas are always written in font 10 and I'd like to adjust the settings so that all formulas are always written in font 14. How can I do that? Thanks for the help |
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