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Old October 13th, 2009, 07:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
SP
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Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? What I want to do is search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but can't recall
the document name.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 08:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
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The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.

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"SP" wrote in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? What I want to do is
search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but can't
recall
the document name.


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Old October 13th, 2009, 08:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
SP
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Thanks for answering but I don't understand --- please provide more detailed
instructions.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:

The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"SP" wrote in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? What I want to do is
search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but can't
recall
the document name.



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Old October 14th, 2009, 12:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels
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By "Windows Explorer," Doug means Start "My Computer" (in Windows
XP) or "Computer" (in Vista). (When you burrow more deeply into
Windows, it's still called Explorer.)

If you're running Vista, there's a "Search" box on almost any panel
you open by (double-)clicking on a folder.

On Oct 13, 3:34*pm, SP wrote:
Thanks for answering but I don't understand --- please provide more detailed
instructions. *

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:



The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.


--
Hope this helps.


Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.


Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"SP" wrote in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? *What I want to do is
search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but can't
recall
the document name.-

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Old October 14th, 2009, 03:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Greg Maxey
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On Oct 13, 7:45*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
By "Windows Explorer," Doug means Start "My Computer" (in Windows
XP) or "Computer" (in Vista). (When you burrow more deeply into
Windows, it's still called Explorer.)

If you're running Vista, there's a "Search" box on almost any panel
you open by (double-)clicking on a folder.

On Oct 13, 3:34*pm, SP wrote:



Thanks for answering but I don't understand --- please provide more detailed
instructions. *


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:


The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.


--
Hope this helps.


Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.


Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"SP" wrote in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? *What I want to do is
search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but can't
recall
the document name.-- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Peter,

Weren't you spanked just a few weeks ago for posting here your opinion
of what other people "mean" when they post? It seems that you would
respect the fact that these people are considerably more experienced
and familiar with computers in general and Word in particular than you
are!

I still use Windows Explorer exlusively. I imagine a lot of other
people do to. I like the layout and feel of it better than My
Comptuter. When I use the term in a post it is what I mean. I don't
mean "My Computer" and I don't use Vista.

In the future and in your ongoing but faltering quest to bridle your
arrogance you might consider something like:

"Windows Explorer" is a windows application that you can use to work
with and manage files and folders on your computer. You can access it
in WindowsXP by clicking StartAll ProgramAccessorriesWIndows
Explorer. You can easily pin it to your Start menu. Alternatively
you can use "My Computer" with Windows XP or "Computer" with Vista.

This way you have provided helpful information without pretending know
more than another person.

Cheers.









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Old October 14th, 2009, 04:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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I'm not sure I understand this. I was not aware that Windows Explorer was
listed as an Accessory, though I suppose that makes sense. When I use it,
however, it expands My Documents (and that is the heading in the title bar),
which is rarely what I want when I open what I call Windows Explorer, using
Winkey+E. To be sure, that app has My Computer on the title bar, and it
shows me what I want to see, which is the various drives that I might want
to access.

If you use the Windows Explorer path you mention to open My Documents, then
it is that much more difficult to find system files, while are buried inside
My Computer (on C

A third way to access an Explorer window is to right-click on the Start
button and choose Explore. This opens a window with the title bar
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Start Menu, which is an intriguing
place to start but not, to me, as useful as My Computer, so I will continue
to use Winkey+E.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
On Oct 13, 7:45 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
By "Windows Explorer," Doug means Start "My Computer" (in Windows
XP) or "Computer" (in Vista). (When you burrow more deeply into
Windows, it's still called Explorer.)

If you're running Vista, there's a "Search" box on almost any panel
you open by (double-)clicking on a folder.

On Oct 13, 3:34 pm, SP wrote:



Thanks for answering but I don't understand --- please provide more
detailed
instructions.


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:


The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.


--
Hope this helps.


Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.


Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"SP" wrote in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? What I want to do is
search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but
can't
recall
the document name.-- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Peter,

Weren't you spanked just a few weeks ago for posting here your opinion
of what other people "mean" when they post? It seems that you would
respect the fact that these people are considerably more experienced
and familiar with computers in general and Word in particular than you
are!

I still use Windows Explorer exlusively. I imagine a lot of other
people do to. I like the layout and feel of it better than My
Comptuter. When I use the term in a post it is what I mean. I don't
mean "My Computer" and I don't use Vista.

In the future and in your ongoing but faltering quest to bridle your
arrogance you might consider something like:

"Windows Explorer" is a windows application that you can use to work
with and manage files and folders on your computer. You can access it
in WindowsXP by clicking StartAll ProgramAccessorriesWIndows
Explorer. You can easily pin it to your Start menu. Alternatively
you can use "My Computer" with Windows XP or "Computer" with Vista.

This way you have provided helpful information without pretending know
more than another person.

Cheers.










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Old October 14th, 2009, 04:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels
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And you were making such progress. (Greg initiated a perfectly civil
email conversation about a macro for reversing stretches of text.)

Do you have some concise way of explaining to a newbie that when an
experienced "old hand" refers to "Explorer," the way the newbie can
access the functions of interest is by going to "(My) Computer," while
at the same time reminding "old hands" that the newbie will not see a
choice "Explorer" or "Windows Explorer" anywhere on their desktop?

Would you be happier if I said "'Explorer' means '(My)
Computer'" (even though that's far from true)?

If _you_ want to use "Windows Explorer" in your work, that's just
fine. But you _must_ remember that _most of the peoplle asking
questions here have no idea what "Windows Explorer' is or how to find
it_.

If you thell someone to use "Explorer," you have to explain to them
how to do so -- or you have forced them to waste more time coming back
here, like SP, to ask what you meant.

I see from your "sample paragraph" below that accessing "Explorer" is
_considerably_ more compicated than accessing "(My) Computer," and
thus _dis_preferred for a beginner.

So yes, if Greg Maxey tells someone to use "Explorer" for something
without explanation, I _will_ jump in and say that Greg meant "(My)
Computer."

On Oct 13, 10:43*pm, Greg Maxey wrote:
On Oct 13, 7:45*pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

By "Windows Explorer," Doug means Start "My Computer" (in Windows
XP) or "Computer" (in Vista). (When you burrow more deeply into
Windows, it's still called Explorer.)


If you're running Vista, there's a "Search" box on almost any panel
you open by (double-)clicking on a folder.


On Oct 13, 3:34*pm, SP wrote:


Thanks for answering but I don't understand --- please provide more detailed
instructions. *


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:


The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.


--
Hope this helps.


Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.


Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"SP" wrote in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? *What I want to do is
search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but can't
recall
the document name.-- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Peter,

Weren't you spanked just a few weeks ago for posting here your opinion
of what other people "mean" when they post? *It seems that you would
respect the fact that these people are considerably more experienced
and familiar with computers in general and Word in particular than you
are!

I still use Windows Explorer exlusively. *I imagine a lot of other
people do to. *I like the layout and feel of it better than My
Comptuter. *When I use the term in a post it is what I mean. *I don't
mean "My Computer" and I don't use Vista.

In the future and in your ongoing but faltering quest to bridle your
arrogance you might consider something like:

"Windows Explorer" *is a windows application that you can use to work
with and manage files and folders on your computer. *You can access it
in WindowsXP by clicking StartAll ProgramAccessorriesWIndows
Explorer. *You can easily pin it to your Start menu. *Alternatively
you can use "My Computer" with Windows XP or "Computer" with Vista.

This way you have provided helpful information without pretending know
more than another person.

Cheers.-

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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Greg Maxey[_2_]
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Peter,

While I am admittingly not as learned as you are with languages, spelling,
punctuation or grammar, I do know what I mean and I mean what I say.

When I say "Windows Explorer" it is what I mean and I offered you a
perfectly polite method of offering your preferred alternative.

The choice is simple. Change your behavior and be polite or remain being
rude and arrogant.

Cheers.

Peter T. Daniels wrote:
And you were making such progress. (Greg initiated a perfectly civil
email conversation about a macro for reversing stretches of text.)

Do you have some concise way of explaining to a newbie that when an
experienced "old hand" refers to "Explorer," the way the newbie can
access the functions of interest is by going to "(My) Computer," while
at the same time reminding "old hands" that the newbie will not see a
choice "Explorer" or "Windows Explorer" anywhere on their desktop?

Would you be happier if I said "'Explorer' means '(My)
Computer'" (even though that's far from true)?

If _you_ want to use "Windows Explorer" in your work, that's just
fine. But you _must_ remember that _most of the peoplle asking
questions here have no idea what "Windows Explorer' is or how to find
it_.

If you thell someone to use "Explorer," you have to explain to them
how to do so -- or you have forced them to waste more time coming back
here, like SP, to ask what you meant.

I see from your "sample paragraph" below that accessing "Explorer" is
_considerably_ more compicated than accessing "(My) Computer," and
thus _dis_preferred for a beginner.

So yes, if Greg Maxey tells someone to use "Explorer" for something
without explanation, I _will_ jump in and say that Greg meant "(My)
Computer."

On Oct 13, 10:43 pm, Greg Maxey wrote:
On Oct 13, 7:45 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

By "Windows Explorer," Doug means Start "My Computer" (in Windows
XP) or "Computer" (in Vista). (When you burrow more deeply into
Windows, it's still called Explorer.)


If you're running Vista, there's a "Search" box on almost any panel
you open by (double-)clicking on a folder.


On Oct 13, 3:34 pm, SP wrote:


Thanks for answering but I don't understand --- please provide
more detailed instructions.


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:


The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.


--
Hope this helps.


Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself
of my services on a paid consulting basis.


Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via
msnews.microsoft.com "SP" wrote
in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? What I want to do
is search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but
can't recall
the document name.-- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Peter,

Weren't you spanked just a few weeks ago for posting here your
opinion of what other people "mean" when they post? It seems that
you would respect the fact that these people are considerably more
experienced and familiar with computers in general and Word in
particular than you are!

I still use Windows Explorer exlusively. I imagine a lot of other
people do to. I like the layout and feel of it better than My
Comptuter. When I use the term in a post it is what I mean. I don't
mean "My Computer" and I don't use Vista.

In the future and in your ongoing but faltering quest to bridle your
arrogance you might consider something like:

"Windows Explorer" is a windows application that you can use to work
with and manage files and folders on your computer. You can access it
in WindowsXP by clicking StartAll ProgramAccessorriesWIndows
Explorer. You can easily pin it to your Start menu. Alternatively
you can use "My Computer" with Windows XP or "Computer" with Vista.

This way you have provided helpful information without pretending
know more than another person.

Cheers.-


--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them
better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is
marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly...who knows
the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a
worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high
achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while
daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and
timid souls who have never known neither victory nor defeat." - TR



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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Greg Maxey[_2_]
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Ms Barnhill,

"Windows Explorer" is on the StartAll ProgramsAccessories tree. I have
used if for years and I use it all of the time. So much so that I have
pinned it to the Start Menu. Unlike some people, I don't like a cluttered
desktop. We all can't be like Peter T. Daniels. If "My Computer" was ever
on it then I deleted it ages ago. Yes, there is a "My Computer" on the
Start Menu as well. I don't use it, because I don't like the layout and I
have never had the interest or taken the time to see if I could make the
layout suit my needs. Windows Explorer suits my needs and that is what I
use.

You are correct. Starting Windows Explorer with StartAll
ProgarmsAccessorries opens the Explorer with My Documents. That is what I
usully want. Using the WinKey+E opens almost an identical view except "My
Computer" is expanded.

With a little manipulation I can make the "StartMy Comptuter" view that Mr.
Daniels insists is the only acceptable approach look almost exactly like the
view I get with "Windows Explorer." I just haven't found a way to make the
settings stick.

Who knows (I don't) all three of them may be the very same application with
a different command line setup that determines how they initially appear.

The bottom line as far as I am concerned is that Mr. Daniels should find
another way to interject his opinions, advice and suggestions and stop
telling other people what another person means. Considering that he can
never admit that he is wrong I suppose we will all have to endure his
arrogance.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
I'm not sure I understand this. I was not aware that Windows Explorer
was listed as an Accessory, though I suppose that makes sense. When I
use it, however, it expands My Documents (and that is the heading in
the title bar), which is rarely what I want when I open what I call
Windows Explorer, using Winkey+E. To be sure, that app has My
Computer on the title bar, and it shows me what I want to see, which
is the various drives that I might want to access.

If you use the Windows Explorer path you mention to open My
Documents, then it is that much more difficult to find system files,
while are buried inside My Computer (on C

A third way to access an Explorer window is to right-click on the
Start button and choose Explore. This opens a window with the title
bar C:\Documents and Settings\username\Start Menu, which is an
intriguing place to start but not, to me, as useful as My Computer,
so I will continue to use Winkey+E.


"Greg Maxey" wrote in message
...
On Oct 13, 7:45 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
By "Windows Explorer," Doug means Start "My Computer" (in Windows
XP) or "Computer" (in Vista). (When you burrow more deeply into
Windows, it's still called Explorer.)

If you're running Vista, there's a "Search" box on almost any panel
you open by (double-)clicking on a folder.

On Oct 13, 3:34 pm, SP wrote:



Thanks for answering but I don't understand --- please provide more
detailed
instructions.


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:


The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.


--
Hope this helps.


Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of
my services on a paid consulting basis.


Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"SP" wrote in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? What I want to do
is search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but
can't
recall
the document name.-- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Peter,

Weren't you spanked just a few weeks ago for posting here your opinion
of what other people "mean" when they post? It seems that you would
respect the fact that these people are considerably more experienced
and familiar with computers in general and Word in particular than you
are!

I still use Windows Explorer exlusively. I imagine a lot of other
people do to. I like the layout and feel of it better than My
Comptuter. When I use the term in a post it is what I mean. I don't
mean "My Computer" and I don't use Vista.

In the future and in your ongoing but faltering quest to bridle your
arrogance you might consider something like:

"Windows Explorer" is a windows application that you can use to work
with and manage files and folders on your computer. You can access it
in WindowsXP by clicking StartAll ProgramAccessorriesWIndows
Explorer. You can easily pin it to your Start menu. Alternatively
you can use "My Computer" with Windows XP or "Computer" with Vista.

This way you have provided helpful information without pretending know
more than another person.

Cheers.


--
Greg Maxey

See my web site http://gregmaxey.mvps.org
for an eclectic collection of Word Tips.

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the
strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them
better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is
marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly...who knows
the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a
worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high
achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while
daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and
timid souls who have never known neither victory nor defeat." - TR



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Old October 14th, 2009, 10:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
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Posts: 8,239
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No, I did not mean My Computer. I meant what I said.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...
By "Windows Explorer," Doug means Start "My Computer" (in Windows
XP) or "Computer" (in Vista). (When you burrow more deeply into
Windows, it's still called Explorer.)

If you're running Vista, there's a "Search" box on almost any panel
you open by (double-)clicking on a folder.

On Oct 13, 3:34 pm, SP wrote:
Thanks for answering but I don't understand --- please provide more
detailed
instructions.

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote:



The search facility in Windows Explorer can do that.


--
Hope this helps.


Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.


Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com
"SP" wrote in message
...
Is there any kind of "advanced search" option? What I want to do is
search
for a document when I know a key phrase inside the document but can't
recall
the document name.-


 




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