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Old March 16th, 2010, 10:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Dom5smom
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Default Cell WILL NOT vertical center! HELP!

I have set up a form using a table. In some rows, I have had to change the
size of the cells, but just by adjusting the width, not by merging cells.

I have one cell that absolutely will not center and I cannot figure out why.
There are no indentations and no spacings set either before or after any of
the lines within the cell. There is less text than space, so there is plenty
of room for the text to center.

I am SO frustrated! Where's my WordPerfect????

Can somebody HELP?
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Old March 16th, 2010, 10:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
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Default Cell WILL NOT vertical center! HELP!

If you want to send a copy of the document to me at
dkr[atsymbol]mvps[dot]org I will take a look at it.

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Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Dom5smom" wrote in message
...
I have set up a form using a table. In some rows, I have had to change
the
size of the cells, but just by adjusting the width, not by merging cells.

I have one cell that absolutely will not center and I cannot figure out
why.
There are no indentations and no spacings set either before or after any
of
the lines within the cell. There is less text than space, so there is
plenty
of room for the text to center.

I am SO frustrated! Where's my WordPerfect????

Can somebody HELP?


  #3  
Old March 17th, 2010, 01:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Herb Tyson [MVP]
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Default Cell WILL NOT vertical center! HELP!

What version of Word is this?

Have you checked the cell margins? Right-click the cell and choose Table
Properties, Cell tab - Options button. If the Top and Bottom settings aren't
identical (usually 0), you won't be able to center vertically.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Dom5smom" wrote in message
...
I have set up a form using a table. In some rows, I have had to change
the
size of the cells, but just by adjusting the width, not by merging cells.

I have one cell that absolutely will not center and I cannot figure out
why.
There are no indentations and no spacings set either before or after any
of
the lines within the cell. There is less text than space, so there is
plenty
of room for the text to center.

I am SO frustrated! Where's my WordPerfect????

Can somebody HELP?


  #4  
Old March 17th, 2010, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
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Posts: 8,239
Default Cell WILL NOT vertical center! HELP!

Hi Herb,

I received a copy of the document and could not find out what it was that
was causing the problem (and believe me, I looked). The problem could
however be overcome by deleting all of the text from the cell and
re-entering it manually.

Let me know if you want to bang your head against the wall and I will send
the file to you.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
What version of Word is this?

Have you checked the cell margins? Right-click the cell and choose Table
Properties, Cell tab - Options button. If the Top and Bottom settings
aren't identical (usually 0), you won't be able to center vertically.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Dom5smom" wrote in message
...
I have set up a form using a table. In some rows, I have had to change
the
size of the cells, but just by adjusting the width, not by merging cells.

I have one cell that absolutely will not center and I cannot figure out
why.
There are no indentations and no spacings set either before or after any
of
the lines within the cell. There is less text than space, so there is
plenty
of room for the text to center.

I am SO frustrated! Where's my WordPerfect????

Can somebody HELP?


  #5  
Old March 18th, 2010, 01:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Herb Tyson [MVP]
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Default Cell WILL NOT vertical center! HELP!

Absolutely! Please send it! I love a good puzzle!

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Hi Herb,

I received a copy of the document and could not find out what it was that
was causing the problem (and believe me, I looked). The problem could
however be overcome by deleting all of the text from the cell and
re-entering it manually.

Let me know if you want to bang your head against the wall and I will send
the file to you.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
What version of Word is this?

Have you checked the cell margins? Right-click the cell and choose Table
Properties, Cell tab - Options button. If the Top and Bottom settings
aren't identical (usually 0), you won't be able to center vertically.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Dom5smom" wrote in message
...
I have set up a form using a table. In some rows, I have had to change
the
size of the cells, but just by adjusting the width, not by merging
cells.

I have one cell that absolutely will not center and I cannot figure out
why.
There are no indentations and no spacings set either before or after any
of
the lines within the cell. There is less text than space, so there is
plenty
of room for the text to center.

I am SO frustrated! Where's my WordPerfect????

Can somebody HELP?


  #6  
Old March 18th, 2010, 01:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Default Cell WILL NOT vertical center! HELP!

Yeah, I'd like to look at it, too.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Absolutely! Please send it! I love a good puzzle!

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Hi Herb,

I received a copy of the document and could not find out what it was that
was causing the problem (and believe me, I looked). The problem could
however be overcome by deleting all of the text from the cell and
re-entering it manually.

Let me know if you want to bang your head against the wall and I will
send the file to you.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
What version of Word is this?

Have you checked the cell margins? Right-click the cell and choose Table
Properties, Cell tab - Options button. If the Top and Bottom settings
aren't identical (usually 0), you won't be able to center vertically.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Dom5smom" wrote in message
...
I have set up a form using a table. In some rows, I have had to change
the
size of the cells, but just by adjusting the width, not by merging
cells.

I have one cell that absolutely will not center and I cannot figure out
why.
There are no indentations and no spacings set either before or after
any of
the lines within the cell. There is less text than space, so there is
plenty
of room for the text to center.

I am SO frustrated! Where's my WordPerfect????

Can somebody HELP?



  #7  
Old March 18th, 2010, 07:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
DeanH
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Default Cell WILL NOT vertical center! HELP!

It will beinteresting to see what you gurus find.
Recently I had a colleague had a similar problem where one line in the
middle of the paragraph had extra space above, i.e. between it and the
previous line in the same paragraph.
I checked all the usual suspects and used the usual methods to control
formatting but to no avail.
When the line was selected all seemed fine but using the cursor keys going
one character at a time from the start to finish of the line, just near the
end I found a character-space that had extra space above it, I could not see
any specific character just a very narrow space with extra height. ?
The character space was selectable and I did delete it and all was well. The
colleague did own up to copying that secection of text from an external
document, so who knows?
Looking forward to the outcome of your investigations.
DeanH


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yeah, I'd like to look at it, too.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Absolutely! Please send it! I love a good puzzle!

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Hi Herb,

I received a copy of the document and could not find out what it was that
was causing the problem (and believe me, I looked). The problem could
however be overcome by deleting all of the text from the cell and
re-entering it manually.

Let me know if you want to bang your head against the wall and I will
send the file to you.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
What version of Word is this?

Have you checked the cell margins? Right-click the cell and choose Table
Properties, Cell tab - Options button. If the Top and Bottom settings
aren't identical (usually 0), you won't be able to center vertically.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Dom5smom" wrote in message
...
I have set up a form using a table. In some rows, I have had to change
the
size of the cells, but just by adjusting the width, not by merging
cells.

I have one cell that absolutely will not center and I cannot figure out
why.
There are no indentations and no spacings set either before or after
any of
the lines within the cell. There is less text than space, so there is
plenty
of room for the text to center.

I am SO frustrated! Where's my WordPerfect????

Can somebody HELP?



.

  #8  
Old March 18th, 2010, 02:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.tables
Herb Tyson [MVP]
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Posts: 3,614
Default Cell WILL NOT vertical center! HELP!

There's some kind of hidden corruption associated with this line:

7. Signature and position

The bottom line is that Word somehow thinks that line contains a graphic of
some kind. It's probably some kind of underlying binary resolution issue. By
turning on/off the layout setting "Don't vertically align table cells
containing shapes," the problem appears/disappears.

The other way I can get rid of the problem is by cutting that line
(including the paragraph mark), then pasting it back in as unformatted text,
and adding a new paragraph mark (because in pasting as unformatted text, the
paragraph mark is removed). Once I do that, toggling the "Don't
vertically..." setting no longer has any effect.

The problem isn't in the paragraph mark--deleting it, doesn't do the trick.
If I delete that line--one character at a time--the problem remains. If I
delete the entire cell one character at a time, the problem remains. The
only solution is to delete that line in one fell swoop, then restore it by
pasting as unformatted text.

A red herring was that if I copy/paste the whole document, just that cell,
or just the table into a new document, the problem goes away. It turns out
that's because the new document was defaulting to "Don't vertically..."
being turned off (Word 2010's default). Turning it back on causes the
problem to return in a new document. The problem is copied into a new
document whether the paste method is HTML or RTF.

How I found this was by first converting to Word 2010 format (the problem
went away), then setting compatibility options for Word 97-2003 (the problem
came back), and looking at the handful of layout options that get turned on
when 97-2003 compatibility is used.

In any case, I suspect that this is a fluke that won't recur for Sue unless
she copies the unfixed table into future documents. If she's using Word
2003, I don't know if the "Don't vertically..." layout option exists, in
which case the unformatted-paste solution would be how she can fix it
(although, I don't have Word 2003, so I can't test this).

Hope this helps...

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"DeanH" wrote in message
...
It will beinteresting to see what you gurus find.
Recently I had a colleague had a similar problem where one line in the
middle of the paragraph had extra space above, i.e. between it and the
previous line in the same paragraph.
I checked all the usual suspects and used the usual methods to control
formatting but to no avail.
When the line was selected all seemed fine but using the cursor keys going
one character at a time from the start to finish of the line, just near
the
end I found a character-space that had extra space above it, I could not
see
any specific character just a very narrow space with extra height. ?
The character space was selectable and I did delete it and all was well.
The
colleague did own up to copying that secection of text from an external
document, so who knows?
Looking forward to the outcome of your investigations.
DeanH


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Yeah, I'd like to look at it, too.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Absolutely! Please send it! I love a good puzzle!

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" wrote in message
...
Hi Herb,

I received a copy of the document and could not find out what it was
that
was causing the problem (and believe me, I looked). The problem could
however be overcome by deleting all of the text from the cell and
re-entering it manually.

Let me know if you want to bang your head against the wall and I will
send the file to you.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP, originally posted via msnews.microsoft.com

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote in message
...
What version of Word is this?

Have you checked the cell margins? Right-click the cell and choose
Table
Properties, Cell tab - Options button. If the Top and Bottom settings
aren't identical (usually 0), you won't be able to center vertically.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word Bible
Blog: http://word.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

"Dom5smom" wrote in message
...
I have set up a form using a table. In some rows, I have had to
change
the
size of the cells, but just by adjusting the width, not by merging
cells.

I have one cell that absolutely will not center and I cannot figure
out
why.
There are no indentations and no spacings set either before or after
any of
the lines within the cell. There is less text than space, so there
is
plenty
of room for the text to center.

I am SO frustrated! Where's my WordPerfect????

Can somebody HELP?



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