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Payroll -- Is it even possible?!
Hi Jesser,
the general rule he be very carefull with people that insist to help you, for a price, on a forum which provides free help. The more if they promise a simple, no hassle, easy to use application without having looked at the complete problem. -- Kind regards Noëlla "Steve" wrote: Tina is repeating here the same thing gls858 is saying. The reality check is that you will need to invest a significant amount of time and energy to build your database. I can build you a simple, no hassle, easy to use database that will do all you want for a modest fee. Contact me, you have nothing to lose. Steve "tina" wrote in message |
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Payroll -- Is it even possible?!
"Steve" schreef in bericht m... Tina is repeating here the same thing gls858 is saying. The reality check is that you will need to invest a significant amount of time and energy to build your database. I can build you a simple, no hassle, easy to use database that will do all you want for a modest fee. Contact me, you have nothing to lose. To the OP: Nothing to lose??? Respect..., pride..., honour..., selfesteem.... It seems Steve has lost it all... He is hopeless... http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html To Steve: Please, please go get lost !! Arno R |
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Payroll -- Is it even possible?!
"REJesser" wrote in message news Good afternoon, I am attempting to create a Payroll Database. I work for a boating business. I need the database to contain: snip I used to be responsible for maintaining and enhancing an Access payroll system. Although it is possible, I would strongly advise against it. You can get good, off-the-shelf, professional payroll apps, developed by experts in the field, for a fraction of what it would cost to do it yourself (if you place any kind of realistic value on your time). I just did a quick Google search, and I see that Sage are selling QuickPay here in Ireland for 159 euro, and Thesaurus Software sell PayrollManager for 140 euro. Under those circumstances, it just doesn't make any sense to 'roll your own'. -- Brendan Reynolds |
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Payroll -- Is it even possible?!
Hi,
the problem we had with our boating (seafaring co) was in fact that no commercial package really covered our needs. Naval laws and situations are very special, like being on see working 3 months without 1 day of leave (including Sundays and holidays), and then coming home and having a vacation of some months. Believe us, we made a thorough study of existing packages before deciding on writing our own. -- Kind regards Noëlla "Brendan Reynolds" wrote: "REJesser" wrote in message news Good afternoon, I am attempting to create a Payroll Database. I work for a boating business. I need the database to contain: snip I used to be responsible for maintaining and enhancing an Access payroll system. Although it is possible, I would strongly advise against it. You can get good, off-the-shelf, professional payroll apps, developed by experts in the field, for a fraction of what it would cost to do it yourself (if you place any kind of realistic value on your time). I just did a quick Google search, and I see that Sage are selling QuickPay here in Ireland for 159 euro, and Thesaurus Software sell PayrollManager for 140 euro. Under those circumstances, it just doesn't make any sense to 'roll your own'. -- Brendan Reynolds |
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Payroll -- Is it even possible?!
"Steve" wrote in message
m... Contact me, you have nothing to lose. .... except money, time, the hair the OP will tear out ... How about another page on your web site called "Decorum and Respect". You could have "coming soon" on it for the rest of your life on the basis of the ineptness you demonstrate on here. |
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Payroll -- Is it even possible?!
"REJesser" wrote in message
news Good afternoon, I am attempting to create a Payroll Database. I work for a boating business. I need the database to contain: Employee Number (linked to Employee Table) Employee Name (linked to Employee Table) Rate of Pay (linked to Rate of Pay Table) Extra Pay Boat assigned to (linked to Vessel Information Table) Date That's pretty sensitive data and you might come unstuck if it fell into the wrong hands because Access isn't that secure. Others have suggested a COTS package and that's where I'd invest my time and money if it were me. Steer well clear of anyone on here who asks you for money. Keith. www.keithwilby.co.uk |
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Payroll -- Is it even possible?!
Hi
I think the point that most people are making (except Steve :-) including you is that a pay role system is "probably" above the skill level of some asking general questions in a forum like this. OK many MVP's and other ask specific questions but general "can this be done" type question leads you to think that the OP may be better just buying an off the shelf application. OK - some people may shout at me for this, sorry - but I do agree with Steve here. If an off the shelf application is not do the job then it "may" be an idea to get someone in to do it for you when it comes to pay role DB's. NOT saying that Steve is right to run adverts in this forum but just that he is right about it being a good idea to get outside help. I have made a small Pay Role app and it was a pig :0) as there is no off the shelf app that will cope with outdoor instructors (they work very strange hours, don't take paid holidays, but do get holiday pay, some clothing allowances are tax free (as they are for safety) some isn’t, etc, etc). So Ron - have a look at the suggestions that Brendan suggested. I have just looked at them and they would seem to be a good place to start. OK - another suggestion (I know nothing about working on ships and rules that go with this by the way) but you "may" be able to contact someone who have already made a specific Ships app and see if they would be prepared to sell you this. You could contact Noëlla and speak to them and see if this is a possibility. Good luck with your app -- Wayne Manchester, England. "Noëlla Gabriël" wrote: Hi, the problem we had with our boating (seafaring co) was in fact that no commercial package really covered our needs. Naval laws and situations are very special, like being on see working 3 months without 1 day of leave (including Sundays and holidays), and then coming home and having a vacation of some months. Believe us, we made a thorough study of existing packages before deciding on writing our own. -- Kind regards Noëlla "Brendan Reynolds" wrote: "REJesser" wrote in message news Good afternoon, I am attempting to create a Payroll Database. I work for a boating business. I need the database to contain: snip I used to be responsible for maintaining and enhancing an Access payroll system. Although it is possible, I would strongly advise against it. You can get good, off-the-shelf, professional payroll apps, developed by experts in the field, for a fraction of what it would cost to do it yourself (if you place any kind of realistic value on your time). I just did a quick Google search, and I see that Sage are selling QuickPay here in Ireland for 159 euro, and Thesaurus Software sell PayrollManager for 140 euro. Under those circumstances, it just doesn't make any sense to 'roll your own'. -- Brendan Reynolds |
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Payroll -- Is it even possible?! - Little stevie is at it agai
"REJesser" wrote in message
... Thank you for the advice John. Going back to my original database question, if it is possible, how can I create the desired table? I would like to be able to enter the information in a view similar to my Excel Time Sheet. The columns across the spreadsheet are labeled: Employee Name / Employee Number / Day of Month (1-15 or 16 – End of Month) / Rate of Pay / Extra Pay Thanks again You need to get out of spreadsheet mode. You'll likely need more than one table, from the above I'd say you'd need an employee table and a "hours worked" table for starters. Have a look at the example database (Northwind) that ships with Access, it'll give you an insight into how entities are represented in tables and how they are related to each other. My 2p worth: you have a steep learning curve and quite a big task ahead of you. Keith. www.keithwilby.co.uk |
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Payroll -- Is it even possible?!
Unless you have your own off-the-shelf software package you cannot begin to
design a custom database with functionality exceeding what is available in commercial products for less than the commercial product costs. You don't know what kind of searches are needed other than the one mentioned, so your claim is based on a guess at best. Stop soliciting here. You will not be allowed free rein, or any rein at all for that matter. "Steve" wrote in message m... gls858 is right. If you go to the do-it-yourself route, expect to invest a lot of time. The Quickbooks suggestion is way too much overkill for what you need. You also won't be able to do the kind of searches you want. I can build you a simple, no hassle, easy to use database that will do all you want for a modest fee. Steve "gls858" wrote in message ... REJesser wrote: Good afternoon, I am attempting to create a Payroll Database. I work for a boating business. I need the database to contain: Employee Number (linked to Employee Table) Employee Name (linked to Employee Table) Rate of Pay (linked to Rate of Pay Table) Extra Pay Boat assigned to (linked to Vessel Information Table) Date I have always used Excel to track this information. There are times when I need perform the time intensive task of going back up to 5 years and determine how many days a crewmember was at work, what boat were they on, and how many total days they were on each boat. I am hoping a database can make this a snap. The Payroll Database would need to be able to create a report each month on the 1st and 16th. The pay periods are from 1-15 and 16 - end of the month. I would gladly send someone a copy of the Excel Time Sheet I use if that would help visualize this whole deal. I have the Employee Table, Rate of Pay Table, and Vessel Information Table already. Now it is just a matter of combining them into something that alleviates - not causes - headaches. Thank you very much for any assistance you can provide Ron Depending on your skills and desire, you may be better to buy an off the shelf solution. Take a look at Quickbooks(there are others). It may sound a little pricey but if you consider all of the extra stuff you get and the time your going to invest, my guess is you would be money ahead. gls858 |
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