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Old December 12th, 2004, 10:59 PM
Mike Hall
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General way they are put together.. never found one that was anything like
reliable.. some of the worst print quality that I have ever seen.. they
never do well in comparison tests..

AND.. Lexmark were responsible for the IBM printers.. and as an IBM service
engineer, I was expected to fix them.. if you have ever heard the expression
'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', well I will add a new one to that..
'don't fix what keeps breaking'..

I assume that you have a Lexmark printer/work for Lexmark/have asked Santa
for a Lexmark (delete as applicable)..

Mike



"Lee Rich" wrote in message
...

"Mike Hall" wrote in message
...

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message
...

"Buy an HP?!" You might as well tell him to buy a Lexmark!

And Epson scanners kick HP scanners arse... The Perfection 4870 Photo is
the best damned flatbed scanner in existence. I've had mine for six
months and I've never had a day's trouble - and the scans - and the
flexibility - is unsurpassed. Yes, it wasn't cheap (I think I paid £300)
but it's worth every penny!


I would agree that Lexmark are possibly the worst, but HP rock.. way
better than anything else..

Re. scanners, the Canon 1240U is a smokin general purpose scanner.. best
I have used, but software is an important factor in how well a scanner
performs..



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on salads.


People get what they deserve..



Mike,

I am curious and would like to know what are the objections to the Lexmark
line of printers. What are the negatives that would prevent you from
buying a Lexmark?

Thank you in advance for your help and comments,

Lee












  #12  
Old December 12th, 2004, 11:07 PM
Mike Hall
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JoAnn

Don't you just love Canon printers that feed multiple sheets through at one
time.. the cute little cartridges that don't last for the time it takes to
pee.. messages that inform you that due to the lack of magenta, you're not
going to print in black either..

Mike (avid member of the HP Appreciation Society }


"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked.
Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we
owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a
Canon. HPs do rock!

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Koewler" wrote in message
...
I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but
the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling
the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term
experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the
print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they
messy?

Merry Christmas
Mike





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Old December 13th, 2004, 12:34 AM
JoAnn Paules
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Yours popped up a message? Gee - you must have had a fancy one.

[I just got my mom into her first HP. :-) ]

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Hall" wrote in message
...
JoAnn

Don't you just love Canon printers that feed multiple sheets through at
one time.. the cute little cartridges that don't last for the time it
takes to pee.. messages that inform you that due to the lack of magenta,
you're not going to print in black either..

Mike (avid member of the HP Appreciation Society }


"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked.
Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we
owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a
Canon. HPs do rock!

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Koewler" wrote in message
...
I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but
the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling
the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term
experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the
print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they
messy?

Merry Christmas
Mike







  #14  
Old December 13th, 2004, 12:54 AM
Ron Cohen
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Mike K.,
DavidF is correct about www.alotofthing.com. Back when you purchased the
i860, I sent a copy of the refill instructions to you. Did you ever receive
them? If you go to the eBay site for alotofthings the prices are a little
lower than from his web site (and those prices are pretty low as well). Use
this link
http://stores.ebay.com/ALOT-OF-THING...playZ2 QQtZkm.
The ink is manufactured by Sensient-Formulabs in San Diego, not China. Also
see www.formulabs.com. There is quite a bit of information there and it
should settle any qualms you may have about refilling. Using a quality ink
like Formulabs won't damage the printheads. Refilling the Canon tanks is
very easy. I've been refilling Canon ink tanks for several years without any
problems. Hop over to comp.periphs.printers and you'll find a world of info
on refilling.
--
Ron Cohen

"DavidF" wrote in message
...
Mike,

Ron Cohen sent some good instructions and tips about refilling Canons to
me
some time ago. He suggested http://www.alotofthings.com as his favorite
supplier. If you want a copy of his detailed instructions, please post an
address, and I'll send them along.

DavidF

"Mike Koewler" wrote in message
...
I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but
the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about
refilling the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any
long-term experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause
problems with the print head down the road? Do you have a system you
recommend? Are they messy?

Merry Christmas
Mike





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  #15  
Old December 13th, 2004, 01:08 AM
Ron Cohen
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Mike H.
I have multiple Canon printers, s820's, i950 and iP4000. These are
outstanding printers and I've never had any problems with multiple feeds on
any of them. I couldn't say that about my HP 720 that is now collecting dust
in the corner. The worst machine I've ever used (for misfeeding) is my
Lexmark E312 laser. Nice little printer, but the multiple feeds are
horrible. My old HP IIIP was also pretty bad about multiple feeds. As to ink
mileage, I print a lot of photos. With my Canon printers I will usually get
between 45-50 full sheets (8.5 x 11) before the first low ink warning
appears. The other tanks will usually be partially to nearly full. That's a
lot of ink mileage for very, very little money considering I refill. Based
on what I paid for the bulk ink, my per page ink cost is 1.2¢. Barely more
than a penny. I think you may be confusing the very low end Canons which use
an integrated printhead similar to HP or Lexmark. Canon printers which use
individual ink tanks are great printers.

--
Ron Cohen

"Mike Hall" wrote in message
...
JoAnn

Don't you just love Canon printers that feed multiple sheets through at
one time.. the cute little cartridges that don't last for the time it
takes to pee.. messages that inform you that due to the lack of magenta,
you're not going to print in black either..

Mike (avid member of the HP Appreciation Society }


"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked.
Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we
owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a
Canon. HPs do rock!

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Koewler" wrote in message
...
I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but
the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling
the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term
experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the
print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they
messy?

Merry Christmas
Mike







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  #16  
Old December 13th, 2004, 01:09 AM
Ron Cohen
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JoAnn,
Which Canon printer model? The ones I have are super easy to refill and the
quality is outstanding.
--
Ron Cohen

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked.
Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we
owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a
Canon. HPs do rock!

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Koewler" wrote in message
...
I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but
the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling
the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term
experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the
print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they
messy?

Merry Christmas
Mike





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  #17  
Old December 13th, 2004, 01:17 AM
Ron Cohen
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Mike H,
How long ago with Big Blue? Did you quit or retire? I retired from them in
98 after taking the bridge they offered starting is 92. I'm disappointed in
how they treat the retirees. They turned their back on us and failed to
deliver on all the promises made over the years about our benefits. Remember
the old saying "How can you tell when your manager is lying to you? Answer:
His lips are moving."
--
Ron Cohen

"Mike Hall" wrote in message
...
General way they are put together.. never found one that was anything like
reliable.. some of the worst print quality that I have ever seen.. they
never do well in comparison tests..

AND.. Lexmark were responsible for the IBM printers.. and as an IBM
service engineer, I was expected to fix them.. if you have ever heard the
expression 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', well I will add a new one to
that.. 'don't fix what keeps breaking'..

I assume that you have a Lexmark printer/work for Lexmark/have asked Santa
for a Lexmark (delete as applicable)..

Mike



"Lee Rich" wrote in message
...

"Mike Hall" wrote in message
...

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" wrote in message
...

"Buy an HP?!" You might as well tell him to buy a Lexmark!

And Epson scanners kick HP scanners arse... The Perfection 4870 Photo
is the best damned flatbed scanner in existence. I've had mine for six
months and I've never had a day's trouble - and the scans - and the
flexibility - is unsurpassed. Yes, it wasn't cheap (I think I paid
£300) but it's worth every penny!


I would agree that Lexmark are possibly the worst, but HP rock.. way
better than anything else..

Re. scanners, the Canon 1240U is a smokin general purpose scanner.. best
I have used, but software is an important factor in how well a scanner
performs..



--
Facon - the artificial bacon bits you get in Pizza Hut for sprinkling
on salads.

People get what they deserve..



Mike,

I am curious and would like to know what are the objections to the
Lexmark line of printers. What are the negatives that would prevent you
from buying a Lexmark?

Thank you in advance for your help and comments,

Lee














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  #18  
Old December 13th, 2004, 01:37 AM
JoAnn Paules
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No clue any longer. It's been several years since I used it - prior to being
a geek. Funny how our tastes/preferences change after we learn more about
what we're doing.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Ron Cohen" wrote in message
...
JoAnn,
Which Canon printer model? The ones I have are super easy to refill and
the quality is outstanding.
--
Ron Cohen

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
Been there- tried that. YUCK!! Messy and the quality really sucked.
Everything turned to shades of grey. And that was in the first printer we
owned - a Canon. Never again will we (1) buy refill kits or (2) buy a
Canon. HPs do rock!

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Mike Koewler" wrote in message
...
I have a Canon i860 that seems to drink ink. I like the job it does, but
the ink costs are digging into my wallet. I've read posts about refilling
the containers, some good and some bad. Does anyone have any long-term
experiences to relate? Does using a refill system cause problems with the
print head down the road? Do you have a system you recommend? Are they
messy?

Merry Christmas
Mike





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  #19  
Old December 13th, 2004, 02:14 AM
Mike Koewler
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Ron,

To be honest, I may have received it but deleted it. At the time, the HP
at the office was so easy on ink that I didn't see any reason to take a
chance on ruining the printhead or anything else. I've only had this
printer about six months and I have spent more on ink than the original
cost of the printer. :-(

I am happy about the quality and speed, especially since it is a low-end
printer. But this thing drinks ink like a camel. It's almost as bad as
the one printer I had that used tapes (cannot remember its name) to
print. I would go through three of those tapes a week. They were not
terribly expensive, something about $5.00 each, but I soon realized I
could afford a large format laser printer for what I was spending on
them. Unfortunately, it was a Minolta. Cost $1,000, lasted about 30,000
copies, if that many. A real POS.

Mike

Ron Cohen wrote:

Mike K.,
DavidF is correct about www.alotofthing.com. Back when you purchased the
i860, I sent a copy of the refill instructions to you. Did you ever receive
them? If you go to the eBay site for alotofthings the prices are a little
lower than from his web site (and those prices are pretty low as well). Use
this link
http://stores.ebay.com/ALOT-OF-THING...playZ2 QQtZkm.
The ink is manufactured by Sensient-Formulabs in San Diego, not China. Also
see www.formulabs.com. There is quite a bit of information there and it
should settle any qualms you may have about refilling. Using a quality ink
like Formulabs won't damage the printheads. Refilling the Canon tanks is
very easy. I've been refilling Canon ink tanks for several years without any
problems. Hop over to comp.periphs.printers and you'll find a world of info
on refilling.


  #20  
Old December 13th, 2004, 05:01 AM
Mike Hall
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"Ron Cohen" wrote in message
...
Mike H,
How long ago with Big Blue? Did you quit or retire? I retired from them in
98 after taking the bridge they offered starting is 92. I'm disappointed
in how they treat the retirees. They turned their back on us and failed to
deliver on all the promises made over the years about our benefits.
Remember the old saying "How can you tell when your manager is lying to
you? Answer: His lips are moving."
--
Ron Cohen


Yo Ron

I quit at the end of 2001.. I was sick of the lies, false promises, cover
ups, management ineptitude.. it seemed to me that the less somebody knew
about anything, the better the chance of promotion.. they didn't want guys
who could fix stuff.. they wanted people who would always say yes to every
half-assed demand made..

We were asked to fix stuff but not allowed to order the parts at times
without written consent of some dummy of a manager.. how the hell can you
make sure that customers are not lost through bad service if your hands are
tied?.. they had enough money to pay out for a cdn$70000 table for Lou to
sit at for half a day, but told me that the budget didn't allow for parts..
they constantly moved departments around, spending untold $$$$, and for
what?.. just to move it all back again the way it was because some dumbass
hadn't thought it out properly.. and still we couldn't get parts..

The best part is that we were sent in to jobs that obviously weren't going
to work out.. Sales people selling companies stuff that just wasn't suitable
for the purpose, and if we couldn't do anything with it, they blamed us.. I
was threatened with being fired on more than one occasion for going above
and beyond to save an account that was going to drop IBM.. only do the
absolute minimum, I was told.. nuts to that..

I worked my heart out for that company, putting up with the crap daily and
just smiling through it.. my last day there, I walked up past security and
one of the dumbass managers asked me for my security badge.. I wanted to
tell him so bad where to put it, but refrained.. I chose to rise above it..

Over the time there, I worked with a few good guys, but we all had
misgivings about company ethics.. one of them decided he would rather be a
scarecrow in a field someplace than continue with what he was doing.. maybe
it's just a sign of the times..

And yes, I remember that saying well.. so true, eh

Mike


 




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