Picture frame box

Hi Mary,

Thanks for your reply. The pictures i'm inserting are .jpg's but i renamed
one as a .wmf to try your suggestion. When i did it the box turned red,
publisher then queried it, i replied yes and then nothing else happened.

I have tried making myself a bit clearer on a reply to John but i still
don't think i'll find an answer. The picture is an irregular shape but it is
always surrounded by a rectangular shape. I know how to resize and how to
move the image around and how to crop the box so it's not as big around the
irregular shape but i want the box to just be the shape of the irregular
image.

I know it doesn't sound very clear what i'm trying to do but with lots of
images on a page sometimes these boxes overlap each other and the actual
picture is hidden slightly by a box.

Would it just be better to use the "bring to front" option or "bring to
back" via right clicking and then order.

Thank you in advance for all your help on this little problem

Regards

Paul

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

If you insert a .wmf picture into your publication, click the dog icon on the
picture toolbar, click *edit wrap points*, it will automatically set the
points. If you then click tight, Publisher will query. Only bitmaps do you have
to manually set the wrap points.

--
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http://msauer.mvps.org/
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"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi John thanks for the reply

When you put a picture into a publisher document you get a rectangular box
around the actual picture with 8 dots on it. In the old publisher you could
click a button and the box would shrink to the actual size of the picture and
not be a rectangle.

I don't want to wrap text around the picture or anything, i would just like
to find an easy way to shrink the frame without manually editting the wrap
points on the frame.

I hope i've explained this a little bit better.

Thanks in advance again.

"John Inzer" wrote:

Paul wrote:
Hi there,

I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
way of adjusting the frame around a picture.

On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
the wrap points.

This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.

Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.

Thanks in advance
=================================
I give up...what frame are you referring to?

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

Hi Mary,

I think you might be close to what i mean. The only thing that has thown me
is the text part because i don't want text on the document, i just want lots
of images on a page without the rectangular frames and just the irregular
shapes/picture.

Is there a button like that on 2007 or any other way of achieving the same
effect.

Thanks again for your help.

Paul

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
about.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump. It's
nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Carrie" wrote in message
...

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.

Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
skip the frame part. ;-)

That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
(LOL)
I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if an
actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border settings.

I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it right
and add extra to the answer.


--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"John Inzer" wrote in message
...
Paul wrote:
Hi there,

I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
way of adjusting the frame around a picture.

On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
the wrap points.

This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.

Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.

Thanks in advance
=================================
I give up...what frame are you referring to?

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

You could draw an irregular shape with the freeform tool in autoshapes. While
the shape is selected, fill, fill effects, picture tab, browse to your picture.
You may need to check the *Lock picture aspect ratio.*

Bitmaps (.jpg, png etc.) can be turned into irregular shapes, When you select
edit points, you can create new points by placing the cursor anywhere on the
picture. You don't need to change the picture to .wmf. If you right-click the
point, you can change it into a curve to soften the look.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi Mary,

I think you might be close to what i mean. The only thing that has thown me
is the text part because i don't want text on the document, i just want lots
of images on a page without the rectangular frames and just the irregular
shapes/picture.

Is there a button like that on 2007 or any other way of achieving the same
effect.

Thanks again for your help.

Paul

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
about.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump.
It's
nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Carrie" wrote in message
...

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.

Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
skip the frame part. ;-)

That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
(LOL)
I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if
an
actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border settings.

I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it
right
and add extra to the answer.


--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"John Inzer" wrote in message
...
Paul wrote:
Hi there,

I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
way of adjusting the frame around a picture.

On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
the wrap points.

This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.

Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.

Thanks in advance
=================================
I give up...what frame are you referring to?

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

Paul wrote:
Hi again John,

I'm probably not using the correct terms here but i think John is
getting the closest to what i'm trying to mean. I can get an image
into publisher but the image is an irregular shape, for example a
bike saddle. When i put this image into publisher it isn't the shape
of the saddle, it's the saddle surrounded by a rectangular box. What
i'm trying to do is to make this rectangular box the same shape as
the image i'm inserting into the document.

On old publisher there used to be an icon which you clicked that did
this automatically now the only way to get close to this is by
manually changing the edit points.

I tried clicking the dog and then clicking tight which i had hoped
would work but the only thing that happened was the box turned red.

I'm sorry i can't explain myself better.
==================================
Maybe we are getting closer.

If you are simply saying you don't wish to
see the dotted line around your picture...
go to...View / Boundaries and Guides...and
uncheck it....or type...Ctrl+Shift+O.

Or...are you referring to an unwanted white
background that surrounds the irregular
shape? If that is the case...select the picture
and look at your Picture Toolbar...there is
a button that says "Set Transparent Color".
If the button is Live...click it and then click
the background of your picture.

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

Hi again Mary,

I'm going to try one more time, i'm so grateful for your help and sorry for
bothering you, it would be so easy if i could just show you but i can't. This
paragraph below was what i was meaning.

In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
about.


Is there a similar icon in 2007. Whenever a picture is added to publisher it
puts it in a rectangular box, i want an easy way of getting this box gone
completly without having to manually edit the wrap points which gets the box
closer to the picture.

If there isn't a button to do this i will have to use the bring to front /
bring to back button instead. (I'm putting multiple images on a page and
sometimes the white box of 1 image obscures some part or another image)

Yet again sorry for bothering you so much but that old button was really
handy for me and i really miss it.




"Mary Sauer" wrote:

You could draw an irregular shape with the freeform tool in autoshapes. While
the shape is selected, fill, fill effects, picture tab, browse to your picture.
You may need to check the *Lock picture aspect ratio.*

Bitmaps (.jpg, png etc.) can be turned into irregular shapes, When you select
edit points, you can create new points by placing the cursor anywhere on the
picture. You don't need to change the picture to .wmf. If you right-click the
point, you can change it into a curve to soften the look.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi Mary,

I think you might be close to what i mean. The only thing that has thown me
is the text part because i don't want text on the document, i just want lots
of images on a page without the rectangular frames and just the irregular
shapes/picture.

Is there a button like that on 2007 or any other way of achieving the same
effect.

Thanks again for your help.

Paul

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the Entire
Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
about.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump.
It's
nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Carrie" wrote in message
...

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.

Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture and
skip the frame part. ;-)

That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an answer
(LOL)
I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and if
an
actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border settings.

I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it
right
and add extra to the answer.


--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"John Inzer" wrote in message
...
Paul wrote:
Hi there,

I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
way of adjusting the frame around a picture.

On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
the wrap points.

This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to change.

Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.

Thanks in advance
=================================
I give up...what frame are you referring to?

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

All images are square or rectangular, there's no such thing as an "irregular
shape" image. It may appear irregular because you have transparency (but not
in a jpg), but they are still square/rectangular.



--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rob Giordano
Microsoft MVP Expression





"Paul" wrote in message
...
| Hi again John,
|
| I'm probably not using the correct terms here but i think John is getting
| the closest to what i'm trying to mean. I can get an image into publisher
but
| the image is an irregular shape, for example a bike saddle. When i put
this
| image into publisher it isn't the shape of the saddle, it's the saddle
| surrounded by a rectangular box. What i'm trying to do is to make this
| rectangular box the same shape as the image i'm inserting into the
document.
|
| On old publisher there used to be an icon which you clicked that did this
| automatically now the only way to get close to this is by manually
changing
| the edit points.
|
| I tried clicking the dog and then clicking tight which i had hoped would
| work but the only thing that happened was the box turned red.
|
| I'm sorry i can't explain myself better.
|
| "John Inzer" wrote:
|
| Paul wrote:
| Hi John thanks for the reply
|
| When you put a picture into a publisher document you get a
| rectangular box around the actual picture with 8 dots on it. In the
| old publisher you could click a button and the box would shrink to
| the actual size of the picture and not be a rectangle.
|
| I don't want to wrap text around the picture or anything, i would
| just like to find an easy way to shrink the frame without manually
| editting the wrap points on the frame.
|
| I hope i've explained this a little bit better.
|
| Thanks in advance again.
| ==========================
| Interesting...when I insert a picture
| into a Publisher document I go to...
|
| Insert / Picture / From File...
|
| I don't see a frame...all I see is the
| picture. There are 8 dots...(handles)
| that can be used to resize the image.
| But I wouldn't call it a frame. And of
| course you can reposition the picture
| by dragging the 4 way arrow or nudge
| it with the arrow keys.
|
| Are you referring to a picture of an
| irregular shape like a cutout and the
| unwanted background is white?
|
| --
|
| John Inzer
| Digital Media MVP
|
| Notice
| This is not tech support
| I am a volunteer
|
| Solutions that work for
| me may not work for you
|
| Proceed at your own risk
|
|
|

Paul, It is the dog icon on the picture toolbar. It is the same as what you are
use to in 2000. It is simply presented differently. If the picture toolbar is
not open, right-click the format toolbar, check the picture toolbar. Drag it to
the bottom of the work area.

Did you ever create a new drawing in Publisher 2000? All the picture tools were
available when you inserted a picture into the canvas, in 2007 this step is
automatic.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi again Mary,

I'm going to try one more time, i'm so grateful for your help and sorry for
bothering you, it would be so easy if i could just show you but i can't. This
paragraph below was what i was meaning.

In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture frame
icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the
Entire
Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
about.


Is there a similar icon in 2007. Whenever a picture is added to publisher it
puts it in a rectangular box, i want an easy way of getting this box gone
completly without having to manually edit the wrap points which gets the box
closer to the picture.

If there isn't a button to do this i will have to use the bring to front /
bring to back button instead. (I'm putting multiple images on a page and
sometimes the white box of 1 image obscures some part or another image)

Yet again sorry for bothering you so much but that old button was really
handy for me and i really miss it.




"Mary Sauer" wrote:

You could draw an irregular shape with the freeform tool in autoshapes. While
the shape is selected, fill, fill effects, picture tab, browse to your
picture.
You may need to check the *Lock picture aspect ratio.*

Bitmaps (.jpg, png etc.) can be turned into irregular shapes, When you select
edit points, you can create new points by placing the cursor anywhere on the
picture. You don't need to change the picture to .wmf. If you right-click the
point, you can change it into a curve to soften the look.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"Paul" wrote in message
...
Hi Mary,

I think you might be close to what i mean. The only thing that has thown me
is the text part because i don't want text on the document, i just want
lots
of images on a page without the rectangular frames and just the irregular
shapes/picture.

Is there a button like that on 2007 or any other way of achieving the same
effect.

Thanks again for your help.

Paul

"Mary Sauer" wrote:

In 2000 you can insert the picture without a frame. There is a picture
frame
icon on the toolbar that allows you to either Wrap the text around the
Entire
Frame or Picture only. This is my opinion is what the poster was inquiring
about.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
You got it. I don't think switching from Pub 2003 to 2007 is a big jump.
It's
nothing at all like the change from Word 2003 to 2007. ;-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"Carrie" wrote in message
...

"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
In Pub 2000 you created a frame first then inserted your picture.

Paul - you don't need to create that frame. Just insert your picture
and
skip the frame part. ;-)

That's what I was thinking, too, but it seemed like too simple an
answer
(LOL)
I know I had to get used to this, changing from 2003 to 2007.
I still see resize buttons on it (hold down ctrl to keep it even) and
if
an
actual border is wanted (around the picture) use the line/border
settings.

I know you know this JoAnn, just reviewing it to make sure I have it
right
and add extra to the answer.


--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



"John Inzer" wrote in message
...
Paul wrote:
Hi there,

I've just upgraded to publisher 2007 and i'm having trouble getting
to grips with it, the main problem being the lack of quick and easy
way of adjusting the frame around a picture.

On publisher 2000 i'm sure there was a button you clicked and the
frame shrunk down to the size of the image. The only way i've found
of doing this is on 07 is by manually changing the frame by editing
the wrap points.

This is very time consuming when you have a lot of pictures to
change.

Oh wise oracle please show me the error of my ways.

Thanks in advance
=================================
I give up...what frame are you referring to?

--

John Inzer
Digital Media MVP

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk